I am 5'4" short torso/30" inseam. Any suggestions on brand and frame size for xc bike? Are there any women's specific models out there? Planning to race with it.
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I am 5'4" short torso/30" inseam. Any suggestions on brand and frame size for xc bike? Are there any women's specific models out there? Planning to race with it.
Because you are smallish and short-torso'd, you will have a very hard time getting a stock CX bike to fit you, at least one with 700c wheels (as almost all of them are). Try to find a 26" wheeled CX bike like this one:
http://lunacycles.com/LoriCX.html
It allows for a shorter reach without toe overlap, and good standover clearance, too.
goodluck.
Oh, I want one of those! I'm riding my entry level specialized Mt bike this year for 'cross - if I really love it, I'll be in touch Margo! tokie ( 5 foot 1.5 with a 28 inch inseam)
In addition to Luna's custom cross bikes, Terry has been offering the Valkyrie in a cross configuration since the beginning of the year. I was one of the first to buy this bike which I believe is the only stock women specific design cross bike. The frames are built in Wisconsin by Waterford and I met Richard Schwinn, the builder, at the handmade bicycle show in Indianapolis this spring. (Waterford also builds custom x-bikes.)
I am 5'1/2" and bought an x-small. Standover height is 26.9", wheels are 26" and there is zero toe overlap. Handlebars are the Salsa Short & Shallow and it has a short stem. Equipped with SRAM Rival. I'd never use SRAM components before but I like the shifting and find it easier with my smaller hands.
You can probably fit a small which has 28.5 standover height. Georgena will ask for your measurements and help you determine size.
Tonight's the season's last Time Trial so I will be putting my Q'roo away and riding the Valkyrie more to prepare for cross season. So far I've been very happy with the bike. Just noticed that the price HAS increased since I bought mine at the start of the year.
Obviously if you go the custom route there will be many choices including Luna and Sweet Pea (both women builders). Here's a link to an article in CycloCross Magazine: http://cxmagazine.com/small-cyclocro...s-short-search
It's hard for the short crossers! I got an old Jamis Nova 47 that is great but for a while before I tweaked it I was thinking it was too small. I'm keeping it now but my friend was helpful enough to put this together when I was investigating frames. I ride a 48 Ruby on the road. Hope this helps!!
For reference the numbers on your road bike:
Specialized Ruby 48 cm: Top tube length (TT) 50.6 cm, Head tube length (HT) 11.5 cm, seat angle (SA) 75.75, head angle (HA) 71.25, stand over (SO) 71.8 cm.
Specialized Tricross 49cm: TT 51.5, HT 11, SA 75.5, HA 70, SO 75
Kona Jake the Snake 47 cm: TT 52, HT 90, SA 74.7, HA 70.5, SO 74.1
VooDoo Limba 51 cm: TT 51, HT 10, SA 75, HA 71, SO 76
VooDoo Wazoo 51 cm: TT 51.5, HT 80, SA 75, HA 71, SO 75.2
Guerciotti Cross Force 47 cm: TT 50.5, SA 74.3, HA 71.3
48 cm: TT 51, SA 74.3, HA 72
For reference the shorter the top tube and the taller the head tube the more upright you can be. You can modify things a bit via stem length and angle. A longer TT makes you go to shorter stem and the opposite is true. You may be able to trade off a longer top tube with a taller head tube. One other thing that will make a difference with head tube length is what kind of headset it has, integrated head sets don't change the length while conventional ones will add height to it. The Specialized is integrated (although they use a big spacer on top of the head tube (look at your bike, between the stem and the head tube) as is the Guerciotti, while the Voodoo's and Kona use a conventional headset (typically add about 3 cm to the head tube length).
The only other little wrinkles are if it is a sloping frame or conventional frame and the bottom bracket height. Conventional frames will have shorter head tubes than sloping, but it can even things out. Bikes with higher bottom brackets might fit when you are in the seat but you may not be able to stand over the frame. Ridley, older Redlines and Cannondale have higher bottom brackets. A high bottom bracket is ~40 cm, normal is ~25-30.
What ever frame you look at, be sure to look at the geometry. Some manufacturers change there specs even if the model stays the same. If you are curious about a Guerciotti, I have a 48 cm Kangaroo (should be the same as Cross Force) that you can check out.
I'm pretty close to your measurements and ride a 50cm cross check.
CA
I'm 5'4, 32" inseam, but short short arms and ride a 46 cross check. The 50 standover was okay, but the tt was too long. Be careful with your measurements on cross bikes. Look at them carefully. The bottom bracket is higher, so the size may be deceiving.
We haven't asked about your budget ... another option are the cross bikes built by Rodriguez at http://www.rodcycle.com/ Although not women specific, they offer 15 different sizes which is much broader than most builders. The Rodriquez starts at $2699, the Terry at $2950, and the custom bikes more. The Surly, Soma and others will be less. If you are on a budget, shop for used bikes (there's a lot of juniors locally who outgrow their bikes).
I agree with Uforgot & bboston 88 about paying close attention to the measurements. And try to test ride. Last week I let a woman who rides a Q'Roo TT bike similar to mine ride my cross check bike for a comparison. She came back with a huge grin! The cross world is pretty friendly and wants to recruit new riders.
I'm close to your size as well and I'm on a 48cm Redline Conquest Pro.
I'm 5'2.5", 29" inseam (pants, not the way you'd measure for a bike) and I ride a 44cm Redline Conquest. I tried to keep the top tube about the same size as the road bike I ride now. It's working so far, but ask me again after I've actually raced the thing. ;)
I'm 5'4", not sure what my inseam is, but I have a short torso and I ride a
44 Redline Conquest Team....it fits better than my road bike!:)
If anyone is interested, Recycledcycles.net has a 46cm Fuji Cross (2001) bike for sale. Paul told me the TT length is 51cm. Might be a good touring or beginner 'cross frame for someone small.
(314) 862-4041
The bike has a Shimano 105 triple crank, Shimano Deore LX derailleurs, Sora shifters and brand new wheels.46cm FUJI CROSS -- 18 speeds, blue/red -- (Was $635) Now $575
I also looked at the Salsa Chilli con Crosso, seemed to have good measurements for me.
I recently got my Valkyrie that I had ordered back in April and love it! I am 5'1" with a 28" inseam and got the small frame size that gives me about an inch of standover with shoes. I love the 26-inch wheels and SRAM shifters. I have mostly had it out on the road and she climbs great! Took her off road once and she handled well, just had to get used to the 'cross gearing. I was able to get the FSA 165 cranks after a little research and contacting FSA myself to see if they were available (they are). I was fortunate to be able to test ride the prototype that was built for Kerry Litka before I ordered (she lives in New England), and that clinched the deal.
With your height you probably have more options, but for shorter women like myself, Terry's Valkyrie is a welcome option for getting a 'cross bike that actually fits! The price is now up around the custom frame price, so I would consider that, too. The frame size on the Valkyrie was just right for me and Georgena was willing to order the smaller cranks and swap out things like saddle and bar tape. She was also generous in giving me a discount for having my bike wrench BF build it up.
Here she is:
sorry for piggybacking but no use starting a new thread when i have a really similar question:
I'm a road rider that JUST got a cross bike (haven't even ridden it yet, only took the store model for a little spin since they didn't have my size and had them order mine) and am a little worried that the bike might be a bit too big for cross. I ride a 49cm road bike and went with a 48cm cross bike for a little more clearance than i'm used to but after browsing the forum am worried that might not be enough leeway...
anyone have suggestions on how much standover clearance is best for cross before its too late to negotiate a swap with the store?
i got the scattante x560
thanks!
if it's a scattante, I think you bought it at performance... and they pretty much have a return the bike if it's not right policy at any point... I think a 48 might be too big for you - but how much standover height do you have?
i'm about the same size as the original poster - 5'4" but with a 28.5" inseam. barefoot i just barely clear the crossbar, would probably be right on it if i sneezed.
good thing i didn't knock off those reflectors yet haha. and yeah, i did get it at performance who didn't have any cross riders working that day to correct me when i tried it out :/
Yeah, you need more standover than that to ride cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by sduff27
I'm 5'1" and took my brand new 2009 44cm Chili Con Crosso out for its maiden voyage today and it fit perfect! The standover is a little iffy, but I'll just have to avoid any sudden step downs. Otherwise, the bike rode great and overall handled better and was more comfortable than my XS road bike with 650cc wheels. I loved riding the 700cc wheels. They sucked up the bumps and hills on a 30 mile dirt road ride.
I guess time will tell, but I'm not sure I agree with the naysayers that say us vertically challenged folks have to ride 26" or 650 wheels.....
Yesterday, when I was watching cyclocross on TV they were talking about framesizes. And they say you always have to look for a cross frame that is one size smaller than your racingbike...
For the Cross Check riders out there what size do you ride and what are your measurements?
I'm 5' 4" and have longer legs than torso. Right now I ride a mixte style road bike so I'm not really sure how long my TT should be. My partner has a 50cm road bike that I sometimes ride on which is fine if just cruising around town, but I want to eventually race cross so I'm thinking I'll need a smaller size. To make it easier to dismount.
I tried a 46cm Long Haul Trucker when I was shopping around one day and felt a bit cramped on it, but the cross check is a whole different bike.
I was thinking I'd like the smaller size and if I feel cramped I could always switch to a longer stem to compensate.
Any advice would be awesome!
I've also been looking at the Kona Jake which has IMO a better variety of sizes, but I want to be able to use the bike for all things. Road riding, light trails, cyclocross, and light touring.
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Originally Posted by radicalrye
I just switched from a cross bike with a 50.5 TT to one that is 51.5. I think my road bike is 50.5 but on the cross bike I felt cramped. I do think I might shorten my stem but it feels good. I'm nearly 5' 4" but pretty even torso/leg wise.
The problem with finding a cyclocross bike (at least in my experience) is that if you are 5'4", somewhere around a 30- 31 inch inseam, like I am, if you downsize to a smaller than race bike bike, you may very easily have toe overlap. If you make the triangle smaller (i.e. with a more dropped top tube, you decrease the size of the triangle and that makes it hard to get your arm easily through the triangle when carrying and sometimes you need to modify your carrying style to hold onto the bottom of the downtube, etc.
I did not really find as much problem with less top tube clearance like I do with a mountain bike, because when I am dismounting off my cyclocross I am swinging my leg off the bike and not coming down directly onto the top tube before dismounting, thus less need for top tube clearance.
I just sold my cyclocross bike to my sister in law, but I rode a 50 Redline frame. It had toe overlap at a 50; so I can't imagine what the 48 Redlines are like?
I had the same problem, but have found the answer in getting a bike with an appropriately small frame and 26-inch wheels. The Terry Valkyrie uses 26-inch wheels on the smaller frame sizes and keeps an open triangle in all but the very smallest size. I am loving it! No toe overlap, super responsive, and I feel more like I'm wearing it than riding on top of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by spokewench
I am now riding an XS Blue and am 5' 3" 3/4! I have size 6.5 feet. I know some people have complained about toe overlap on the Blue but I have not had an issue. My prior bike had a 26" front wheel to eliminate this problem. I think that any bike can have toe overlap and sometimes it can be unmanageable but a lot of times it's seen as more of an issue than it really is. We're typically leaning into a turn with our bodies, hopefully not doing too much steering with the wheel. I know there are some situations where this is necessary though. I've done hairpin turns on my Blue at nearly no speed..not a problem. So, a little toe overlap in my experience is not a big deal because it doesn't mean I'm actually hitting the tire.. but that's just been my experience.