Illinois MS 150, or how I learned to stop worrying and love long-chain maltodextrin

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06-27-2005, 04:17 AM
nuthatch

Illinois MS 150, or how I learned to stop worrying and love long-chain maltodextrin

I can now wax poetic on the beauty of the humble soybean plant and the fragrance of the pig slurry! Farm roads are wonderfully quiet but we would have been grateful for some shade or forested areas.

It was dang hot - 98 on Saturday and 96 on Sunday and many people (1600 participated) swooned in the heat and had to sag to the finish. Several cases of hypoetremia (?) where they didn't take in enough electrolytes with their drinking. I was using Honey Stingers (gel) because I thought that "natural" would be better than all those artificial gels. At one of the reststops they had Hammer gel and I thought, what the heck, I'll give it a try 'cause I'm flagging. WHOA! What a boost! So I'm converted to better living through chemistry, I guess! ;)

My ride partner, Connie, felt really bad during the hottest part of Saturday and we could only go about five miles before she got extremely flushed and had to stop under some shade, dousing herself with water. Our average speed was "turtle" but we made it to the end - as it slowly cooled off she started feeling better. Later that night, she figured out it was lack of salt - she's an extremely salty sweat-er and she was using a new sports powder that didn't have as much salt in it. When she switched to Powerade, she felt much better and we rode MUCH faster on Sunday without any trouble. I'd like to know the chemistry behind the body's cooling mechanism and how sodium is important - it was like she couldn't sweat when she got so overheated. Maybe close to heatstroke? I don't know.

Lots of fun people to chat with on the road - lots of purty, purty boys (I'm only appreciating them as works of art - really!) lots of bikes to lust after (don't tell my bike!). One guy was riding an Orbea, the Euskadel orange and blue version that was so cool. Lots of really cute jerseys. I rode with long sleeves for sun protection and they actually weren't that much hotter - it felt good to not have the sun beating down on my forearms all day long.

We had one flat to fix and it was a rear tire on Connie's bike. My bike had a loose headset (I felt a shimmy right from the start of the ride) but the wrench boys at one of the reststops fixed me up. It's amazing what will shake loose on those farm roads.

Yes, I'll do it again! Why was I so worried I wouldn't make it? The MS folks took such good care of us!
06-27-2005, 09:54 AM
aka_kim

Congrats! How was that Brooks saddle - were your sit bones happy?
06-27-2005, 12:02 PM
Trek420

way to go nuthatch, good job staying hydrated. any chance we can find out how much you raised in pledges and I'll post that to the board.
06-27-2005, 02:14 PM
CorsairMac

and the fans go WILDDDDDDDDDDD

woooohooooooooooo nuttie - way to go!! I KNEW you could do it!! 150 miles eh??....dangnabit - that means I've got to get out there and do that now! (no competition here! ;) )
and you get the She-Ra Tiara!!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
06-27-2005, 03:59 PM
nuthatch

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Originally Posted by aka_kim

Congrats! How was that Brooks saddle - were your sit bones happy?

Well, I rode my Marin with the Selle Italia saddle so my sit bones were pretty happy, but I've got to say they were toughened by ole Brooksie in preparation for the ride!! My tender parts were, however, chafed from so many hours - I tend to angle my saddle nose up a bit for everyday and this probably was the trouble because I ended up in the drops alot because it just felt more efficient for the long days.

I think I might be turning the corner on the Brooks. I came within a hair of sending it back to Wallingford last week, then I stopped by Performance and was talking to one of the fellows there about it. He said he thought Brooks saddles were torture devices but a couple of the older guys who worked there rode Brooks and loved them. He came out and pushed on the saddle and said "OMG! This thing is like iron! The other guys' saddles are soft and supple!" That made me feel like there was hope for the future, so I'll keep riding it. I also saw a well worn Brooks on somebody's bike during this MS150. It looked like a very old shoe designed to be worn on your butt! Ugly but probably so comfy!

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any chance we can find out how much you raised in pledges and I'll post that to the board.

Not too much, unfortunately! I'm one of those wimply fundraisers. I got $425 this time but I going to try to double it next year! Thanks for all your encouragement, fellers!!
06-27-2005, 05:10 PM
Biking Chick

Awesome Nuthatch!!!

Hey There Neighbor!!!

I logged on to look for your report on your MS ride ... have been thinking about you all week-end and sending lots of good thoughts your way :)

I will definately keep the Hammergel in mind for my MS ride in August.

DH and I rode in the Menominee (MI) River Century this past week-end ... this was my longest single day ride (75 miles) and I can tell you that by the last 15 miles when my legs were feeling like blocks of wood and I could feel every single stitch in my saddle (I swear I had Selle San Marco in reverse on my derriere :) ) I had serious doubts that I could get up the next morning and ride another 75 miles.

I'm so excited to hear that you finished the MS ride ... good for you! Awesome and Congratulations.

I hope you had a double double in celebration ... as in almond joy ice cream.
06-27-2005, 06:14 PM
nuthatch

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Originally Posted by Biking Chick

I hope you had a double double in celebration ... as in almond joy ice cream.

Dang! I forgot the ice cream!!! How could I have passed right by Oberweiss Dairy and not stopped for ice cream! Blast it!!
06-27-2005, 06:17 PM
maryellen

hydrating

Interesting to read your post re hydration. I've always seemed not only to perspire more than most people, but my perspiration seems very salty (no, I don't compare mine to others).

I recently switched from plain water or alternating with replacement drinks to drinking "ultima replenisher," a sports drink with no simple sugars, during all my cardio off or on the bike (note, no commercial interest). I feel better both during and after. I used to feel waterlogged and headachy after a hard workout--I think it was from too much water without enough electrolytes.

Ultima replenisher isn't easy to find, but it's worth it. It comes in both tubs and packets. PS, I don't care for the wild berry flavor, but perhaps that's just me.

Congrats on do the 150 in hot humid weather. I believe you get extra credit for that! ;)
06-27-2005, 07:13 PM
nuthatch

Interesting you mention Ultima - I started using it a few weeks ago when Nashbar had a two for one sale of it. It works great for rehydration but I was puzzled that one of the ingredients was iron - 17% of the RDA. Most people don't need extra iron in their diets and I wonder what was the logic in adding it. Does it facilitate the absorbtion of something else? I know it's hard on the stomach for some people and gives the drink a bit of a "vitamin" taste.
06-27-2005, 07:22 PM
maryellen

I hadn't noticed that (the print is awfully small, isn't it?). I've read some vague mentions re losing iron via perspiration, but I don't know that's the basis for it.

They do change their formula from time to time. When I first started using it, it was sweetened with stevia--which had a bit of an aftertaste.
06-28-2005, 11:01 AM
CorsairMac

I've read in several online biking guides recently that long-distance athletes tend to be low on iron which may explain why they added it. and depending on how many mg you're getting - it may not upset the stomache that much.

So where can I find this "ultima"?......it sounds like something I might want to look into.
06-28-2005, 04:20 PM
nuthatch

I've seen it in running stores but Nashbar.com has it as well.
06-28-2005, 05:04 PM
Biking Chick

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Originally Posted by nuthatch

Dang! I forgot the ice cream!!! How could I have passed right by Oberweiss Dairy and not stopped for ice cream! Blast it!!

There are no statues of limitations on WHEN one may collect on their quota of apres bike ice cream ;)
06-28-2005, 05:13 PM
nuthatch

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Originally Posted by Biking Chick

There are no statues of limitations on WHEN one may collect on their quota of apres bike ice cream ;)

Allrighty then! I've got Oberweiss here in Chicago and Graeter's when I visit down in Kentucky for the 4th!
06-28-2005, 05:21 PM
SadieKate

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Originally Posted by Biking Chick

There are no statues of limitations on WHEN one may collect on their quota of apres bike ice cream ;)

Hey, Wisconsin Girl! When Petunia and I went to Salt Lake City for the Little Red Riding Hood we went to Nielsen's Frozen Custard. Petunia is from Wisconsin and an ice cream fiend. She kept telling me about frozen custard so I finally got to sample. Yummmmm-meee!!

Kalifornia is defiinitely lacking in frozen custard selection, now the cheese. . . :p
06-29-2005, 10:40 AM
CorsairMac

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

Hey, Wisconsin Girl! When Petunia and I went to Salt Lake City for the Little Red Riding Hood we went to Nielsen's Frozen Custard. Petunia is from Wisconsin and an ice cream fiend. She kept telling me about frozen custard so I finally got to sample. Yummmmm-meee!!

Kalifornia is defiinitely lacking in frozen custard selection, now the cheese. . . :p

yeah Kalifornia is cheesy alright! Opps.....did I just Type that outloud???

as for Frozen Custard??......mighty tasty treat. I used to have them mix lemon and marshmallow with the custard and man - oh man - the thought is almost enough to make me break restrictions, get sicker than a dog but love every bite!!!
No frozen custard in Abq - but there is Phx!!!
06-29-2005, 10:55 AM
SadieKate

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Originally Posted by CorsairMac

No frozen custard in Abq - but there is Phx!!!

Yeah? Where? I might be out there in a few weeks (one day business meeting) but might have the time to squeeze in a custard.
06-29-2005, 11:31 AM
CorsairMac

Jant!!!! Helppppppp

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

Yeah? Where? I might be out there in a few weeks (one day business meeting) but might have the time to squeeze in a custard.

when I lived there - there was a frozen custard place in Chandler. I think (it's been 6 yrs) it was on Ray right off Chandler Blvd! They actually started selling the lemon/marshmallow combo as a "standard" flavour!!! The place was decked out like a 50s diner, family owned and fun fun fun!! All the Harley ppl would stop there after our rides!!
07-05-2005, 03:05 PM
betagirl

toasty indeed

Hey nuthatch!

I just saw your post. I need to read this place more thoroughly :rolleyes:

It sure was toasty that weekend wasn't it? My friend's bike computer read anywhere between 103-111 on the road. Needless to say we stopped at every rest stop. Sunday morning was refreshingly cool compared to Saturday but jeez around 10 we were right back in it.

I agree it was a great ride, very well organized. I plan on going again next year. 5 of us started on the century loop, but 2 headed back a few miles into it. I don't really know how I did 100 miles that day. I'm so proud of my one friend who just got into biking this year, at least more than commuting. She's done 2 centuries so far and is doing RAGBRAI with me in a few weeks. I think she's officially addicted :D

Mmm hmmm pretty boys on the road indeed. One of the great things about cycling, the pretty boys. :D

Did you happen to see the little boy, I think he was 8 or 9 years old, riding with his dad? He did 83 miles the first day. I saw them out on the century loop. He's one we'll see on TV in 10 years or so.

And whoever thought up those wash towels in ice water buckets deserves a medal! :)
07-05-2005, 06:16 PM
nuthatch

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Originally Posted by betagirl

Did you happen to see the little boy, I think he was 8 or 9 years old, riding with his dad? He did 83 miles the first day. I saw them out on the century loop. He's one we'll see on TV in 10 years or so.

And whoever thought up those wash towels in ice water buckets deserves a medal! :)

I did see him and I saw a dad with two daughters, one riding tandem with him and the other on her own bike. I know they did the 75 because I saw them on and off all day on Saturday. The girls were maybe 10 and 8. Poor little one was resting her head on the handlebars by the end of the route! What little troopers!

The cold cloths were a blessed relief - I just hated to see them discarded by the side of the road. Littering is just wrong.

Didn't the MS Society take good care of us? Some people had nit-picky complaints but I thought they did a splendid job, really rolling with the weather "punches" both days. You couldn't stop by the roadside for more than 10 minutes without one of the motorcycle or SAG vehicles stoping to check on you. It was a wonderful ride.

The next challenge is the Metro Metric at the end of July. Dare I try for a century?

Hope to see you on the road next year!! What's your team name?
07-05-2005, 07:53 PM
snapdragen

Wash towels in ice water! Excellent idea - I'll add it to my "How to Drive SAG Like a Star" list! Right next to the Marshmellow Peeps and Circus Animal Cookies.
07-06-2005, 01:47 PM
CorsairMac

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Originally Posted by snapdragen

Wash towels in ice water! Excellent idea - I'll add it to my "How to Drive SAG Like a Star" list! Right next to the Marshmellow Peeps and Circus Animal Cookies.

Ok that's it - I'm moving to CA just as soon as I can find a job and a place to live that will let me have my 2 dogs, 4 cats and 4 (soon to be 6) bikes. I wanna ride whatever You're SAGing Snap!!

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Originally Posted by nuthatch

The next challenge is the Metro Metric at the end of July. Dare I try for a century?

Well Yeah!! Heckie dern whats another 25 miles to a speed demon like you! :p