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This morning I'm driving to work at 6AM-ish and pass several students riding to campus in normal winter clothes with LOTS of EXPOSED SKIN!
IT WAS -3 degrees!
All Day Long, I'm seeing students riding in normal jackets, no caps, no gloves - at decent speeds (including the normal running stops signs...) on a windy day.
It was 6 degrees!
Seriously, how are they doing this without serious frostbite???
I dunno.
lots of the boys around here wear basketball shorts year round.
Young folks seem to feel the cold less in general. But I also doubt they are riding very far.
It's a mile or two, but it's SO cold and they're creating their own 10 to 15 mph breeze...flesh is flesh...
I agree with Lisa. I teach, and there are days my students won't wear a coat outside at recess when I'm in my long, wool coat with a hat and gloves: and I'm STILL shivering. Kids (young or older) just don't know cold for some strange reason. And yes, I'm referring to college kids as "kids." I agree, tho, Mr. : flesh is flesh and even if it's only a mile- that's still WAY too cold. Brrrr... I get cold driving in my car at that temp. with the heater on. :)
I'm surprised at the variation in what people wear cycling (or doing anything) at cold temps. It's not quite as cold as your area, but I've seen people cycling in shorts. Probably they aren't going far.
Hey, who knew bikes are supposed to stop at stop signs? I had no idea; never saw anybody do it.
Pam
Pam you are scaring me. I hope you are just kidding! For your own safety, please obey traffic laws while riding in traffic! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by PamNY
Sorry -- that was meant to be a wry comment about bikers in general. Seriously, on the bike path, I pull over as far as possible when I stop because you risk being mowed down by other bikers if you actually stop when no cars are coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
Pam
I remember being like that when I was a kid. Ah to be young again. :rolleyes: I stopped riding below freezing after I fell on some black ice and wrapped my front wheel around my fork... but my rule for running used to be long sleeves below freezing, tights and gloves below 0°F, didn't even own a hat that I remember.
My son is 6'2" and almost never wears a jacket. He wears t-shirts all the time. He only weighs 140 so there's no meat on him. It was 15 degrees below zero here today. He wore a sweatshirt.
My 15 yo son is like that, too. I MAKE him take a jacket wherever we go, just in case we break down or something and have to walk a long way (better safe than sorry). It is a constant struggle to even get him to TAKE a jacket, but in his more cooperative moments he grabs one without a reminder, even though he has no intention of wearing it.
Everywhere he goes in the cold weather, people are asking him where his jacket is. You think the annoyance of that alone would be enough to get him to wear one, but nope.
I have noticed he does wear shoes and socks more often than he used to, though.
Karen
I stopped fighting with the kids (12-13 yr. olds) about wearing coats when we went outside about 5 years ago.
I don't get it, either. I was not "warmer" as a kid. Yesterday, when it was about 13 out, I went to the dentist, near my kid's old HS. While everyone I saw was wearing a jacket, some of them had on what I would consider to be a spring jacket, none had gloves, or hats on as they spilled out of the Starbucks.
And I also don't understand some of the riders and runners I see wearing shorts when it's 50, 40, or 30. Last week I saw 2 runners in my neighborhood in shorts. It was around 25 out and their legs were bright red. While I definitely have developed more of a tolerance for cold, the more I ride, I have to wear tights when it's less than 55, maybe 52. Between 55-65 I can do knee warmers or knickers.
I also suspect that most teenagers and young people run around in the freezing cold without gloves, hats, or jackets simply because they keep LOSING them.
:cool:
DH's son used to keep telling us his stuff was 'stolen'. Replacements were purchased. After 2 winter coats were "stolen" in succession, further interrogation revealed that he actually LEFT the coats hanging over some fence in the baseball field or at the park, and then when he went back to get them like two days later they were gone....thus, "stolen". :rolleyes:
I suspect when they go off to college there is a period of time during which they are astonished when replacements don't 'magically' appear...and eventually (when they run out of clothes) they stop shedding apparel like autumn leaves everywhere they go.
Yes, it is amazing that my older son has not lost a coat since he graduated from college and he wears a hat, gloves, and a scarf all of the time. He once lost his brother's winter coat, that he had worn because he liked the color better! Although he did lose his backpack about a year ago; the same LL Bean one I bought him in 1992.
My other son still has his winter coat I bought him in HS. He doesn't need it too much in San Diego, but when he was stationed in VA, he wore it. He doesn't lose it, because he keeps it in the back of his Subaru.
My legs, being well-insulated, are better able to take cold weather, and therefore if the weather is iffy, I'd opt to cover my upper half rather than my lower half. When I come in from a cold run and get in the shower, I am often surprised to feel how cold the skin on my outer thighs is (even when wearing pants)! I never notice outside.
Karen
After starting this post, I researched some more and actually found the frostbite table.
At those temps, assuming a 15mph ride, it would actually take about 30 minutes for frostbite to set in. So, a couple miles on the bike - while unpleasant - may not be dangerous to the skin or extremities...but as for me, I wouldn't have done it when I was 20 (and the top of my head was naturally insulated then!:rolleyes:)
I ask myself "How do they do it" all the time - I'm the advisor for the brand new Monmouth University Cycling Team and although they have moved their training indoors for the winter, the team still heads out 1x a week to ride out of doors for 50 - 80 miles in just arm warmers, tights and gloves for "winter gear".
They say "Come on Theresa! 7am - join us!" :eek:
ummmmm... I don't think so!
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Originally Posted by Tuckervill
LOL!!!
Do y'all think some of it has to do with "fashion"? I remember seeing a young woman in flip flops walking through slushy snow in our downtown area when flip flops were absolutely the only footwear the younger set would wear. My niece got married that same year in Jan. When she told my sister that she planned to wear flip flops with her wedding dress, my sister replied that she'd better get a stand in for mother-of-the-bride as she would not attend. My niece wore ballet slippers as a compromise!
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aint Doody
It's not 'cool' to get all bundled up! :p Hats mess up the hair. Gloves interfere with texting.
Texting, yeah. I was in line at the pet food store yesterday, and the young man in front of me was staring at the little credit card machine, or so I thought. Then I noticed he was TEXTING while the cashier and myself and my son, both of us holding 35 lb bags of dog food on our shoulders, WAITED for him to GET A CLUE! When I realized what he was doing, and then saw the apologetic look from the young cashier, and being the perimenopausal woman than I am, I said, "Seriously? Are you TEXTING while we all wait for you to finish your transaction???"
After his dirty look towards me, his eyes snapped back to the credit card machine and he mumbled something about the machine taking its time. :eek::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Later I dropped my 15 yo son off to play paintball in the sub-40 degree weather, with a bunch of college students, friends of a friend. None of them had gloves or much outerwear, except my son, and that's because he still lives with his mama!
Karen
Way back when I was a kid, we returned to the State after living in France for 3 years and my Dad was an ROTC Prof on a university campus. 1966 was the year. I went to an elementary school affiliated with the university. I remember that I thought it funny the college girls were wearing coats with their mini-skirts. Not sure what was the fashion in France at the time, or maybe I wasn't around as many of the same age group, but I certainly noticed what the college girls wore when I walked from my school over to my Dad's office every day. It would be cold out, and they'd have coats on, but practically nothing on their legs, except go-go boots. :cool: