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Vegetable Gardening
Okay the gardeners/fruit growers finally piqued my interest. I am considering if I can get DH to resign himself to helping build and let me have the space putting in a small vegetable garden. Based on my CFO (lives same geographical area) and my fabulous Mammaw I think I could have some success with squash, cucumber, tomatoes in my area. My Mammaw also grew corn but I don't have the extremely huge yard or the patience she was blessed with. I am thinking larger tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, squash, zuccini and cucumber (and getting Mammaw's pickle recipe mmmm).
Our backyard is rock under 1" of sandy loam so it will definitely be a built up garden for sure. We have a perfectly rectangle lot, 50X150. House is relatively close to the street (I bet not more than 20' back) and 1630 sq foot. So I guess the backyard is probably 80-90 foot deep still. It is long so I have room to work with but DH probably won't let me have too much as he has "visions" of a large covered patio. Okay back to the task at hand.
How much room would I need? It is full sun right now but there are plans to put in a large shade tree practically middle of the yard with a canopy that one day will shade 90% of the width or more (we are thinking a Monterrey Oak ~30-40 ft canopy). What type of fill dirt? Can I just build up with landscape timbers? How many plants of each? We are a house of two, don't eat that many tomatoes but homemade salsa might be a task. We would steam the veggies as we both loved steamed squash. So this is more just for fun than anything. What else do I need to know?
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Squashes need a lot of room to spread out. Lots of people around here grow them separately from the rest of the garden. They're pretty plants (I think), so people put them around their mailbox, around the house or walkways, or just in random places in the yard.
With tomatoes, it depends on how much canning/freezing you want to do, and also if you're not a super-diligent gardener, yields can vary a lot from year to year. A dozen to 18 plants are enough for DH and myself, but for instance, this year with 10 plants (plus one cherry and one tomatillo), less than ideal weather and a distracted gardener, we got a total of 4 pints of sauce and no other preserved tomato products.
When you build up your beds, don't use treated or creosoted lumber. I would guess that the recycled plastic timbers should be safe, but I really don't know, so I'd want to read some more about it. In my own garden, rather than built raised beds, I just mound up beds at the beginning of each season. That gives me drainage and soil depth, but I can still till and amend the garden all at once, and build up a deeper and deeper topsoil year after year. But my soil is over clay, so that's different from rock...
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It's probably better to start small and expand as you go along. Gardening in a big space might be a put off after you realize how much work / time is taking you. I would say start maybe a off 4 - 4'x4' bed and see how much you like. You can always expand if needed. But don't forget there's only the two of you! Unless you're vegetarians, I doubt you can eat all that food. I'm not sure where about you live, but first to do is find out what "zone" you're in. It basically tells you what you can grow when. http://www.garden.org/zipzone/
Unless you live in the hottest zone down in the States, tomatoes do well in full sun. Most vegetables needs at least 6 hours of sun. Lettuce and some other leafy vegetables can use less sun.
And I like to have raised beds that are about 4'x4' with about 2 feet of foot path for wheel barrows. 4' is good because you can reach in the bed without stepping in it. Ideally, you should have about 12" of good quality compost/soil. Not sure if you have access to "sea soil" down where you are. But I had some one year and everything I planted with that soil grew like crazy!
If you need more help, try http://www.gardenweb.com I learnt a lot asking people in that site. Or email me directly if you have more question :) Gardening is my passion :D
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Oh 4X4 sounds alright. Or maybe two 4X4 so I can position them along the fences. My mom had a graden ages ago and recommended 8X8 but that is a large square. We are Zone 8B, so that is good to know. I already learned a bit about zones and soil planning a shrub/flower/landscape bed with DH.
I will check what the soil places have, I went cross eyed at the selection buying landscaping dirt. :rolleyes:
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A great resource for raised beds, particularly if you are starting small is:
http://www.squarefootgardening.com/
The soil mix used here worked great for us - as did the trellis.
For your environment (which is similiar to the climate we had the last summer we were in NC), tomatoes, squash, green beans, peppers and cukes would do well. Those are all the things that suffered here because it was such a short summer this year. You could do all this in one 4x4 space if you planned it out right. You would have plenty for eating, but likely not much for preservation/canning unless you happened to have a bumper crop. If you did SFG, you could also do succession planting and get spring crops, summer crops and fall crops from the same 4x4 space (particularly since you would have a long growing season). It's surprizingly less work than traditional 'row' gardening and it uses less water!
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GLC- That site is intriguing and looks like it would be something taking little work from DH (a plus). Plus, I guess if I hate gardening I could turn them into flower beds at that size. The backyard is completely barren with just a bunch of struggling Bermuda, I am sure DH would warm to the idea of a tidy garden. I hope.
I don't know how I could forget my Mammaw growing beans and peppers! I only remember the corn, rows of it. :p
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In my experience, 4x4 beds are a bit of a reach (for me). I prefer 3x8 or 3x6. That way, I don't have to stretch so much to reach the middle of the bed. Square Foot Gardening is good, although the author gets a bit compulsive on the measuring!
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tulip
In my experience, 4x4 beds are a bit of a reach (for me). I prefer 3x8 or 3x6. That way, I don't have to stretch so much to reach the middle of the bed. Square Foot Gardening is good, although the author gets a bit compulsive on the measuring!
LOL, yeah he site was a little over excited but my lovely alma mater has a whole web page of how to container garden, terrace garden and what vegetables to plant in various parts of the state updated yearly. All hail Aggie Horticulture! :p
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Aggie Horticulture!
Is that a tautology? :p;)
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OakLeaf
Is that a tautology? :p;)
Oh lookie I learned a new word today! I guess in a way it is. :p;)
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To start, I think my location means I'm in a completely different position to you climatewise
But....
From a few year of growing veg I would say the following:
- Never wiorry about space, you can always grow something. If it's tiny then herbs. as soon as it's bigger than a window box you can grow more than that.
- There seems to be types of squash that grow everywhere, but always need lots of water and possibly feeding if thye haven't had enough compost to starrt with. I had silly huge amounts of courgette (zucchini) this year. Some other winter squash - varies what they need but lost of water generally. others a few (a type of patty pan) needed more sun than others.
- Beans - there will be types that will grow everywhere and lots. beans are fab. this year i have grown cherokee trail of tears - wow they are amazing. tasty and go on and on and on. rather than glut they have given me a steaday crop (for a single person).
- tomatoes - great to grow because the taste is so much better. there are so many types - there's bound to be one that suits what you want
- cabbages and brassicas - I wish I could comment but the caterpillars ate mine.
this is just brief - but the main thing is just try and grow stuff, experiment and see what you can grow.
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I tried a garden a couple of years. I did learn one lesson, I planted way too many squash! I mean, I like squash but there was no way I could eat as many as I planted. And I didn't even think I'd put in that many plants.
Okra is a great thing that loves sun and heat, I think. My grandfather always grew lots of okra and tomatoes with his gardens.
If I had it to do over again, I'd also start with the tomato plants already started and not seeds. I live up in the panhandle so for me it didn't get warm enough to grow mine up in time before it began to get too cold.
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I planted a little garden for the first time in several years. I re-learned one thing: you only need one zuchinni seed.
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I planted a little garden for the first time in several years. I re-learned one thing: you only need one zuchinni seed.
Amen, sista'! LOL
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The one Garrison Keillor bit sticks in my head, how in Minnesota in the summertime, someone will ring your doorbell, and when you come to the door there's no one there but a huge bag of zucchini. :D
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Bumping this thread up because I am planning to put in a new larger vegetable garden in the back yard this year. For the past several years I've had just a small 5' x 18' or so tomato patch in which I stick a few greens and beans as well:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/...49536c3696.jpg
But this Spring I found i wanted to try growing more things and simply didn't have the room in that patch. I've already planted lettuce seeds and chard and cilantro in every available space that looks empty in the photo. And I can't expand it because it's almost at our property line already.
So DH and I talked today and mapped out a large rectangular spot in the back lawn that's 18' x 30' for an additional food garden. I know that sounds awfully large but there will be foot paths criss crossing around in it, and I can delegate some parts to squash plants and bean teepees, both of which take up plenty of room.
Whatever it winds up being, it will have to have a substantial fence to discourage the woodchucks, rabbits, and occasional deer. We have yet to decide whether it will be raised beds or traditional dug.
Either way I will need the landscaping/excavating guy's help and plenty of topsoil brought in. He helped us with our front grading/backhoeing/landscaping several years ago and we like him a lot, so he's coming over soon to perhaps help us plan it out. I know there is almost no topsoil there, but if there is a lot of dense shale there under the lawn we may have to use raised beds- he can advise us and can hopefully help us make the garden happen.
It'll be put in too late to plant much this year, but I might be able to get some leaf lettuces and other fast growing greens from it this year, depending on how quickly we can figure it all out.
Aggie-Ama- did you ever get your veggie garden going from when you started this thread?
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To the person who said she had a problem with the caterpillars getting into the cabbages/brassicas: here's what I have used on the broccoli that seems to help. Get a few hot peppers, chop them up and put them in a spray bottle (seeds and all). Fill it with hot water, shake it up and let it sit a while. Then you can spray it on the plants (just whatever you do, don't spray upwind) and it seems to repel the bugs. You'll have to reapply it every few days and after rain; keep the bottle in the fridge.
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Lisa, raised beds are much nicer to use than a flat plot. Your walkways are automatically made when you lay the beds, and you can reach across to do all your weeding, etc., without reaching too far or stepping in mud. If there's a sawmill nearby, you can sometimes get substandard cedar planks for next to nothing to make the beds with. You could also make a groovy cool pattern with the beds that is pleasing to the eye. :)
I'd try to make the beds lawnmower-width apart, too. :)
Karen
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just got around to this thread.
Yes by all means start small. biggest mistake for someone new is starting big. They all get overwhelmed. three 4x4 raised bed is a pretty good start.
GLC's advice on succession planting is excellent.
For just the two of you, two tomato plants may be enough. one zucchini plant is plenty. In a humid environment, they tend to turn into giant club overnight.
Try beans and stake them up a pole (pole beans instead of bush beans) to save space. You can also do this with mellons. Mellons will require a "hammock" to keep the fruit from pulling the vine out of the ground. Cucumber is pretty easy too. There are lots of kind of cucumber so you need to decide what you want to do with them.
If the summer is hot, save the lettuce for fall and winter and away from direct sun as this will make for a very bitter green.
Tomato plants can get really big so keep that in mind. Oh if the dirt isn't that deep raised bed, you may want to grow patio tomato. They tolerate limited space for the root better than most other variety.
Also try some herbs. Basil, parsley, thyme and oregano are relatively easy. Thyme and oregano tends to be very invasive and so you may want to just pot them.
And enjoy the fruit of your labor.
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Almost too late in season but managed to order three kinds of blueberries, Jubilee, O'Neal and Ozarkblue (in place of Southmoon). These are warm weather variety.
Also ordered Anne Yellow raspberry, tulameel (sp) raspberry and Ouachita black berry plants. Bit late to get any fruit this year but they should be set for next year. :)
Southern California is just too warm for stone fruit so have none. Instead we do have citrus trees. :D :D
We redid most of our garden so nothing looks established. bit strange to look at. Also about 5 years ago my collection of giant dahlia was wiped out. my mistake. and just today picked up three new varieties. Now I'll get to listen to one guy at my office "well my sunflower is much bigger than your dahlia" sheesh. Anyway, one variety of zuccini has set and probably ready to pick in about two more weeks. Green Zebra tomato has fruit set and first tomato should be ready in two to three weeks. Romas also has fruit set. :D :D Maybe I'll take a picture tomorrow and post.
Reading "Made from Scratch" by Jenna Woginrich. I'm just tickled pink by her writing. A young gal in her twenties decided to homestead of sort. Drives an old Subaru, her experience with chicken, bee keeping, three sheep... see coldantlerfarm.blogs.com Another book just for fun is "The Backyard Homestead" Carleen Madigan ed. bought it on advice from Amazon when I bought Made from Scratch. Just lukewarm on the second book.
Oh already pulled up two garlic heads, dried and cured. Need to start on heirloom variety of melons, and snow peas. Soo late. :(
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I use non-enclosed raised beds. Every year I till the whole patch, then dig out trenches/pile up soil in the beds.
It makes for a lot of work at the beginning of each season, but it allows me to till and amend the whole plot all at once and makes crop rotation easier. The way my yard drains, raised beds of one sort or another are a necessity.
I'm getting to a dilemma. I've put it off one more year but I'm going to need to make a decision. I've worked hard over the years to transform my plot from rocky clay to good loose topsoil. In the meantime, a nearby black cherry has worked just as hard to grow taller and taller and it's now shading a good third of my plot for most of the afternoons.
Move the plot? Or cut down the tree?
(Also, I set my tomatoes and peppers out yesterday, and now they've changed the weather forecast to call for patchy frost tonight. :rolleyes: I wasn't planning on rolling out the row covers already. )
ETA: Lisa, after several frustrating years, I found the only thing that keeps groundhogs (aka woodchucks) out is electric fence. A small four-volt solar charger is plenty and not too expensive. One strand about three inches off the ground, one strand about eight inches above that with a ground wire between in case the raccoons try to climb it.
Eight feet of light poly netting with a string of twine on top is usually enough to keep the deer out. :rolleyes:
You'd think these animals were starving, instead of having thousands of acres of pasture, woodlands and farm to graze. But no, they need my beans, tomatoes, greens, parsley and squash. All of them, if they can get them, and there have been years when they did. :mad:
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I started very small with some patio tomatoes and have several larger tomatoes. I hope the ripen soon!
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We have both raised beds (SFG) and a row garden area. The idea is to be able to compare the yields of each, so we have some things planted in both places. We have one large area of raised beds with a new gravel walkway between them (the grass walkway idea from previous years was a disaster) and a large 'row garden' area that we are not actually planting in rows. It'll be more of a patchwork. So far, we've got tomatoes in both locations, beans in both locations, all the spring veggies in the beds (they were the first to warm up a bit), all the potatoes (sweet & regular) in the 'row' area and a small patch of garlic also in the row area. This coming weekend, we'll be planting more beans, corn, zuchini, cukes, amaranth, quinoa (probably a bit late but we'll give it a shot), more carrots, more parsnips and more greens in both locations.
I am also working on planting herbs (perennial) in various locations around our yard and in a few spots in the garden area (for annuals like basil, cilantro and parsley).
Lisa - even if you get a late start, plant anyway. You never know what you'll get and it's worth 'wasting' a few seeds for the learning experience. We planted mid-July last year due to our move, and we still got squash, cukes, beans and corn from seed. We also threw in a few tomato plant starts from the farmers market and were even able to harvest some late tomatoes (and a ton of green ones right before our first frost).
Things that didn't work? Carrots (too small - but tasty!), parsnips, peppers, melons and most herbs (besides basil). The season was just too short for these things. We also failed to plant the fall items early enough, so we got no harvest on those items either (except the random over-wintered chard!).
http://www.tranquilitysystems.com/ga...3_original.jpg
This was taken a couple of weeks ago. To the right of this photo is the row garden area. In the back - you can see where our grape arbors are (to the right of the tiny greenhouse). The garbage cans behind the greenhouse contain potato plants. And then behind me as I took this photo are our blueberry bushes and blackberry/loganberry brambles...
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Lisa, your 5'x18' patch is actually pretty big, but that path takes up way too much growing room. I have five raised beds, each 6'x3', totaling 90 SF, same as your current patch. But my 90SF is all growing room. I don't count the paths--my setup is like a mini-GLC setup in the photo above. Right now I have radishes, carrots, zucchini, beans, and sunflowers (and a stray collard) in one, peas and watermelon in another, lettuce and onions in another, potatoes in another, and tomatoes in the last one. I grow my herbs separately, closer to the kitchen. I'll soon put in some melons and winter squash as well.
Mine's kindof based on the Square Foot Gardening book, but I'm not nearly as neat and tidy (and obsessive) as Mel Bartholemew is (the author).
I bet you could rearrange your current setup and it would be more efficient.
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tulip
Lisa, your 5'x18' patch is actually pretty big, but that path takes up way too much growing room. I have five raised beds, each 6'x3', totaling 90 SF, same as your current patch. But my 90SF is all growing room. I don't count the paths--my setup is like a mini-GLC setup in the photo above....
I bet you could rearrange your current setup and it would be more efficient.
Well then mine is smaller than yours if I don't count a path either. :confused:
I have to have a path in my patch- how else can I get in and garden? the fence determines the area for now, and the fence is essential to keep the varmints out. True I have been planning to turn the slate stones so that they are narrower end to end and a couple will then be eliminated. I'll do that soon, but that'll only give me an extra 6 inch strip of earth or so. It's hard for me to maneuver around in there without at least a foot wide path. I used to have NO path, and it was really hard to move in there then.
The tomatoes are kept well pruned and staked, but even with that they get big and overhang the path by mid-summer.
What I am doing is planting green and red leaf lettuce seed in the areas that will be overgrown by the tomatoes later on- thus getting double duty from those spots. The leaf lettuces can grow, produce, and get yanked by the time those areas are filled in by the other growing plants like the stringbeans and tomatoes. :p
I've actually planted way more stuff in there this year than ever before....it used to be just a strip of tomatoes only, with a dinky deer netting fence. After both a red squirrel and a bird got tangled in the netting and died :( , I decided I had to to get rid of the netting and replace it with metal fencing.
Maybe I will go turn those stones lengthwise more this afternoon! :)
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Hi Tulip,
Well I pulled 4 of the widest stones out of there and rearranged the path stones lengthwise.
That now gives me a 1 foot wide path instead of a 1 1/2 foot wide path....so I got another 6" strip all down the length of the plot by doing that- allowing for one additional 18 foot row of greens that is 6 inches wide. :D That's as much planting space as I can squeeze out of it! Thanks for your comment which spurred me into doing what I was thinking I needed to do.
Still, not counting the 1 foot wide path down almost the entire length of my plot, that leaves 4' x 18' actual planting space, which equals 72 feet square- still substantially smaller than your your 90 ft. square planting space. :o
But I am looking forward to putting in my new big garden this summer! (Now if only I can get those two different landscapers to call me back.) :(
UPDATE: One landscaper called me back and might come over tomorrow! he's the guy that has done work for us before, so we like him. :)
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LIsa, my Dad plants a majority of his garden from seed. He purchases onion sets and potato sets though. He plants his seeds sometimes as late as July. He staggers his lettuce (he does loose leaf-much better luck than with head lettuce) and spinach. That way it's not all ready at the same time. He's been buying his tomato plants over the past few years, there doesn't seem to be good growing weather for them.
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Thanks Shelly.
Yes, i created a whole extra 6" row in my patch just by re-arranging the path stones yesterday. I planted more leaf lettuce and a new six foot row of radishes. Radishes and leaf lettuce grow quickly and easily (as long as you keep the rabbits and woodchucks out!). I do stagger my lettuce and radish seed plantings.
I too have to buy tomato plants unless I were to start the seed a month earlier in my basement with lights (which i do NOT want to do!). This week is the first week we can put in tomato plants safely with little threat of frost. I cheated when I put them in about 10 days ago, and was lucky. We've had two nights of 34F degrees since then, but were just barely spared a real frost and the plants were fine. :rolleyes:
I'm excited- our lanscape/backhoe guy might be coming this evening and he says he could perhaps get our garden dug and filled within 2-3 weeks! Unfortunately he does not do fencing, so I'll have to get someone else to come in for that. :( The fencing is a bigger project than we want to do ourselves.
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We can get away with a lot earlier planting down here, even if it's before the last frost, because our frosts are rarely to the level of a freeze (we did have a good late frost this year, with snow in April, though). But I use these to protect my 'maters until it warms up.
http://www.planetnatural.com/site/im...ku=wallo-water
Usually when there is a late frost, all our shrubs have set blooms already and we all rush out at dusk to cover them with every spare sheet and towel in the house until the morning. I'm not sure that would help up Nawth.
Karen
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I just got my vege garden planted this year. Some of you are lucky and can amend your soil and grow great gardens. I would have to amend my soil for the rest of my life before it would be good enough to grow a tomato! I live in the rocky, forested woods area of Northern Arizona. We have a super short season - high altitude and weird really hot sun, kind of cold nights weather. Suffice it to say, it is a challenge to garden here!
I have 3 raised beds in the backyard. I added some compost already earlier this year and yesterday I got to plant. I planted tomatoes, cucumbers, zuccini (green and yellow crook neck); eggplant, green bean seeds, some marigolds, chard, sweet bell peppers. I have all kinds of herbs mixed in with my perennials in the front yard and some vege plants as well. I have planned to try some tomatoes, eggplant, bellpepper, herbs etc in pots this year as well. I have not done this before here in the mountains but decided to try this year.
Now, I was jumping the gun a bit on this planting since we can freeze up till June 15th. Remember the short growing season, but I figure I will cover if we get freezing temps this year. Our driest months are end of May and June. Sometimes, we get absolutely no rain until mid July when the monsoons start. But, what a wonderful surprise I got yesterday after I planted my raised beds. About an hour after I planted, it started raining and rained for quite a while. It is also supposed to rain a bit for the next few days which is wonderful. It is almost like the Pacific Northwest here this week! How Weird.
I'll try to take a picture of my beds so you can all see my new little garden.
spoke
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Some of you are lucky and can amend your soil and grow great gardens. I would have to amend my soil for the rest of my life before it would be good enough to grow a tomato! I live in the rocky, forested woods area of Northern Arizona....
I have 3 raised beds in the backyard. I added some compost already earlier this year and yesterday I got to plant.
Well, we have 'no' topsoil here in our yard....just shattered shale and poor clay stuff. So either way, whether we dig it out or put in raised beds, I will have to have topsoil brought in by the truckload to put in my veggie garden, and will need to buy a truckload or two of composted manure as well. We are talking a couple of dumptrucks' worth here. :eek: Not exactly amending- more like totally replacing!
It's going to cost a lot, but over the next few years it'll be nice to know exactly what's going into some of the stuff we are eating. We do pay a lot for organic veggies around here.
Spoke- it will be nice to see pictures of your garden!
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The nice thing about raised beds is that you don't have to make them all at once. If the cost or even the size of the project is overwhelming you, try just making 1 or 2 beds this year and a couple more next year.
I started with 2 2x4 beds, then added a 10x10, then this past year we took out the 2x4s and added another 10x10. This enviroment is way to hard on wood (2x4 beds), so we got recycled bricks and made the 10x10 raised beds.
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Some pictures I took today :)
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We built a raised bed garden over three years. I designed it kind of fancy, for the day when it might not be a vegetable garden but a flower garden. I'll try to post a pic soon. This year we put in a huge rectangular bed for strawberries. We grow tomatoes, lettuce (several kinds), green beans, squash, cucumbers, broccoli, sweet corn, peppers and strawberries (in a couple years). I liked the photo of cannelini bean plant! The soil is organic and we use rain barrels to water. We used city water only a couple times last year to water the garden.
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Oakleaf- Just lovely closeup photos of your veggie seedlings!
Doesn't the electric fence keep the deer out in addition to the woodchucks? :confused:
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Doesn't the electric fence keep the deer out in addition to the woodchucks? :confused:
If I added a couple of strands higher up and baited them with peanut butter or something so the deer would taste it, get a little shock and learn to stay away from the area rather than jump over, then yeah. At least that's how the local arboretum protects its saplings.
But I'd need a bigger charger, for one thing; and for another, I have my doubts that the deer would really be deterred from jumping over. The enclosures at the arboretum are a lot smaller IIRC. Without that final strand of twine at the top and the shiny crinkly strips of aluminum foil, they go right over any low spots that sag below about 7.5'. :mad:
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Hi Oak,
Don't feel too bad about the deer and the effort taken to keep them out. There is a book titled The $64.00 Tomato. An idiots war with nature and his folly with nature.
The man obviously has no common sense when it came to gardening. He hired an land scape artist to design his garden and things just go downhill from there.
After reading one of the reviews on Amazon, I don't think I will bother with the book; but, the idea of $64.00 tomato just makes me shake my head. His "organic garden" ended up being a DOW chemical testing site and on EPA superfund site. Figuratively speaking ofcourse.
I tried posting my pics of my garden and it didn't upload :confused::confused: will try again when I plant my Japanese pepper tree (sansho) Zanthoxylum piperitum This specie was banned in US till 2005? don't know why. but now its legal.
Anyway, should be receiving my berry plants today. and with the pepper trees by Friday, my garden will be more or less complete in terms of perennials. :) :D. Been a work in progress for quite some time. Removed sod, removed palm trees, removed giant tree ferns, removed giant bird of paradise over 20 feet tall... removed a sprinkler system, and replaced with drip irrigation... restarted on my collection of giant dahlias. Still have another palm tree and four other trees to remove on my property :( and about two years from now replace my magnolia tree with a Haas avocado tree. All of this on a 4000 sq foot property.
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I just planted my first garden on Monday, albeit over my aunt's house with much aide from her boyfriend. But I wanted to learn the process, and in exchange for my help I get all the veggies I want. They, too, have deer issues and he's setting up an electric fence soon. But they've also hung bars of Irish Spring soap all around and it's done a decent job of keeping them away. Has to be Irish Spring, though. Now if they could just figure out what's trying to eat their chickens:confused:
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Ours is coming along...here are a few photos that I took on Monday:
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The 'row garden' area after planting on Memorial Day. Half of it is still covered and that'll be mostly squash varieties and additional corn. Straight down the left side are our potato plants (4 varieties) and they are growing like crazy! The black humps on the right are sweet potatoes just planted last week.
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The CD's are our attempt to keep the birds away from our seed. That is garlic in the foreground and tomatoes behind it...
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The boxes are almost 100% planted. There is still some room for a few more things but this is mostly complete. It looked way more impressive two weeks ago before the goats got out and leveled everything green!
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Kale plant mostly recovered from the goat trimming!
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Grape arbors just starting to develop leaves...
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The perps.
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And for good measure, one of our plum trees. It looks like we will have a bumper crop of these babies this year. They are AWESOME eating red plums that should be ripe in August. Yay!
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I'm just growing strawberries, rhubarb, and pumpkins this year. And I will plant 15 different types of berries next fall. And a sour cherry tree.
