I'm going to test ride a Jamis Aurora tomorrow hopefully. If you own one, what size do you have and how tall or you and what is your inseam?
The only one they have in stock for me to try is a 50. I hope it fits me!
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I'm going to test ride a Jamis Aurora tomorrow hopefully. If you own one, what size do you have and how tall or you and what is your inseam?
The only one they have in stock for me to try is a 50. I hope it fits me!
The effective top tube length on the 50 is 535, which is too long for me. (I'm 5'6.) I hope it's a good fit for you!
According to my calculations, 53 cm ETT is supposed to fit me, but we'll see how the 535 fits and feels. I really would like for this bike to work.
I'm 5'8" and have something like a 32 or 33 inch inseam. The 50 Aurora fit me wonderfully.
oh me. I'm 5' 5" with a 31" inseam.
Try it anyway! Everyone's proportions and flexibility are different. What fits me could well fit you, too!
And here I'm thinking the Aurora would be too small for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
You better just go try it.
Sandra,
sorry for not getting back to you eariler, my laptop kept overheating and shutting down after about 10 minutes of use! I kept trying to post replies and I couldn't get that far.
I am going to make a huge guess that the 50 is going to be to big for you, and that you are going to want a 48.
I am 5'6 and I ride a 48, technically I have been told I should be on a 50- but it leads to me being to streched out(my legs are long enough about a '32 insteam, but the torso is not).
Ride the 50,see how you like it- if you love the bike but feel a little stretched out, the LBS should be able to get one in, in your size, and built up within a few days.
I just got home and saw this post. I hope I have not messed up. They didn't have a 48. I bought the 50. It was really hard test riding it. I've never shopped at a bike shop quite like this. It was in the French Quarter of New Orleans.
Now I'm worried that I made a mistake. It feels a LITTLE stretched out, but it's definitely a more heads up position. Also I haven't ridden much in months and I'm playing with the seat. The seat was entirely too high and I've let it down twice.
oh dear. It's hard since I didn't have another one to compare it to.
but I love the bike.
Congrats!!! Maybe get DH to take a picture of you from the side, so our bike fit experts can have a look?? Everybody fits on bikes differently - if you're comfortable, that's what matters. How long is the stem?? You might be able to shorten up there for not much $$ if you need to.
CA
Sandra -- did they fit you (or offer to make an appt for you to come back...)? Might be perfect with a small stem adjustment?
Edit: oh, and congratulations :)!
Congratulations! :D
Now, we want pictures! :p
Those Auroras are sweet bikes (and hard to find, as I'm sure you know)
Does it have the adjustable stem? Between that and the saddle adjustments you have quite a bit of wiggle room.
If you're worried, check your fit with the Andy Pruitt book AND post your side-view picture on the bike. There are a lot of folks on TE who do bike fit as part of their jobs, you'll have lots of help if you decide you need it!
Feel the bike love!
Congratulations!
It is a great bike! The more I am around Jamis's the more I like them. I actually prefer to sell them over the Giants(and shhh I am technically working in one of the first giant concept stores-but we carry other lines also)
I feel you got the better bike and hopefully you enjoy every second you spend on it :D
I would call them back though and see if they would do a fit, or if there is a shop closer to you that could do a fit- you shouldn't have to adjust the seat height yourself- a fitting should be included in your purchase. The difference in positioning on a hybrid to a road bike is a lot, and requires a fitting to make sure your height and reach are correct. We don't want you to end up with any knee problems!!
Again, Congratulations on the new steed and can't wait to see pictures
ummmm. they didn't fit me. You really need to know what you want when you shop there, but it's the ONLY Jamis dealer anywhere close. You wouldn't believe this shop. It is in the French Quarter and there's not room to walk much less turn around!
I'm uploading pictures now of me on the bike. We snapped them really fast. One sec.
Here's one. Who's the expert.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0412-1.jpg
I've only seen one picture, gotta run (I'll take a better look when I get back, I promise!) but on first glance I don't think the bike is too big.
Really do gotta run to the bank before it closes. Can you put up a pic from the side where you are on the hoods and the leg to the camera is straight down, and a pic where your leg to the camera is at the most forward (3:00) position?
Very nice bike!
How does it feel when you're all the way out on the hoods? It doesn't look too big in that picture (well, from my casual untrained observation anyway :D fwiw), but you're hanging out in that transition area between the tops and the drops -- maybe it feels more stretchy when you're actually all the way out?
Edit: Knot & I posted at the same time. Feel free to ignore my post and listen to the person who actually knows something about this :)!
Ok, my husband got involved in yard work, but as soon as he finishes, we will try again.
From my (untrained) eye, it looks pretty good (and they're SWEET bikes). I agree with Knot, seeing a pic on the hoods would help (and seeing the leg positions will help those in the know figure out whether your saddle is in the right position). All of my bikes are good fits, and I still tend to hand out in the crook of the bars most often.
You do look comfy and happy on it:)
CA
I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
But I think it looks pretty good. Definitely not too stretched out. I'd almost wonder if you might think about a slightly *longer* stem.
I'm no expert either, but I think you look pretty good on the bike. Do you ever ride on the hoods? I find that the most relaxed position for me.
FWIW, I'm 5'6" with a 31" inseam and my bike's a 49cm (equivalent--it's custom), so it's close to yours. A 48cm would be too small for me.
I don't know nuthin' about nuthin', I just like bikes and body mechanics! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by liza
Looks to me like that Aurora is the right size! Fine-tuning the fit is your next step, and honestly the best resource I know is Andy Pruitt's Complete Medical Guide for Cyclists. Great book, love it with a powerful purple passion.
I just have one thing I want you to check (cuz it seems to get missed with the women riders I work with). Get on your bike, leaning against a wall or on a trainer stand. Make your cranks horizontal (one at 3:00, one at 9:00). Ask DH to tie his keys to a string and dangle the string from the front of your forward knee to a couple inches from the ground. Put the string so it hangs along the inside/bike side of the crank. The string should cross the crank somewhere from the pedal spindle to 3 cm back from the spindle. (toward the bottom bracket.)
If the string is hanging out in nekkid space beyond the crank or forward of the spindle (which on my bike is only about 1 cm before the crank ends) you might want to move your saddle.
Let me know how the string looks, and if you want we can work it through here or in PMs.
Nice bike!!!
Will check the string as soon as I can tie him down. :D I have a Brooks I'm going to put on it if it's a keeper, so maybe I should change saddles first.
We can take this to PM's instead of continually bumping the thread. Thanks so much. Also, I have Andy Pruitt's book, so I'll try to see what I can figure out. I'm not very good at reading. I just like to be told! LOL
One thing interesting. When Elk got her bike and posted the picture the top tube was slanted. My top tube is straight! Why?
Hey, we can keep bumping this thread if others are interested in watching an online possibly-inaccurate attempt at fitting! I don't mind!
Yeah, I bet you that bike's a keeper, so throw that Brooks on! Whoo-hooo!
I'm guessing Elk's was a smaller size. The slanting top tube lets you get a functional geometry in some smaller sizes.
Oh, and is Jamis still putting the adjustable stem on the Aurora? (it will look like it has a couple pieces with a hingey-bolty thing in the middle of it. Probably says "Ritchey" on it.)
Elk's is a size smaller. I kept thinking how Elk was much shorter than I was, so the smaller size probably wouldn't have fit me. Plus I remember Elk having her seat post all the way out.
yes, they still have the adjustable stem. I got him to angle them up immediately. I'm not sure if I should go back down or what. I think I had the saddle way to high the entire time I was riding there.
The standover ~ I can feel the bike, just barely. I do have some space that I can lift it off the ground before it really presses into me. Is this OK?
Hubby is reading Andy Pruitt and I did the test for reach about putting you elbow at the end of your saddle and stretching your arm with hand open to the handlebar. My longest finger just did touch, so that sounds good.
I think it's fine - others may have a different opinion. I always (habit) tilt my bikes slightly to the side when I stop anyway. However, I'm pretty close to on the top tube of my crosscheck.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
CA
I find I need setback on almost anything I try. Even the Felt I just sold, which was too big for me (reach was too long) -- I still needed a setback post in order to achieve a good position vis a vis the bottom bracket.
Not to say that you will be the same. But definitely worth checking.
You can adjust the bar position as needed. Very cool! Ride the bike a bit first, and get to know it. Yeah, you might be a bit close right now, but wait until you get the saddle situated before you play with the bars much. (fine tune the saddle first)Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
Your standover sounds pretty "normal" for a horizontal-ish top tube and touring-ish geometry. I can lift my road bikes about a couple inches before they jam into me. (my mtb-style critter, well, that's another story! We're looking at a whole lotta inches there!)
Edit: And like CA-in-NC, I'm pretty close to my Cross Check! :D
Sandra: you and I fit the same according to the "fit" kit, and when I had my 50cm Jamis Quest, it fit like a dream. You can always make minor adjustments with the stem, but I honestly think, (based on my Jamis experience) that the 48cm would be too small for you. But then again, I think that the Quest has a more aggressive "racing" geometry than the Aurora, so I think that makes it even better.
I am going to take a breath now. I think for sure she is a keeper. We have been doing some of the Andy Pruitt tests, and I think it's a fit.
So, I slapped on the brown Brooks. I also have a black if it would look better. I'd just have to do some trading around. Brown Brooks leather bar tape would be nice too. :D
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...v/DSCF0420.jpg
But WHY is my bar straight when Elk's was slanted. I don't get that at all!!!
The brown Brooks looks beeeeoooootiful with the lovely copper paint! And brown leather tape would be, of course, a mighty fine addition!Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
Georgena Terry has a nice set of videos about bike frame design, I think she talks about slanting top tubes vs smaller front wheels to allow short tt/short standover. http://www.terrybicycles.com/movies.html
Or maybe it was Sheldon Brown...
Basically, a slanted top tube allows you to bring the front wheel closer to the back wheel (so a shorter effective top tube length) without giving the rider a serious wedgie problem. (cuz the tt has to be higher than the front wheel, and with a 700c front wheel, well, you have a limit on how low you can go with the tube attachments in the front. But at the seat tube, you gotta clear the rider's crotch. So: clear the wheel at the front of the tt, clear the crotch at the rear of the tt, slanted top tube lets you clear both on some smaller sizes)
but, but, but. We have the exact same bike and hers is slanted and mine is not. Is it because hers is a smaller size (48)?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
To make her bike smaller (wheels closer to each other, and the top tube shorter) and still let a smaller rider stand over the top tube, the designers decided to lower the end of the top tube that would be under the rider's crotch.
If they had kept the top tube horizontal on the 48cm, it might have given a shorter-inseam rider looking for a smaller bike a nasty wedgie. All they really did is drop the end of the bar under the rider's crotch. (kinda like a mixte)
I like the brown, but now slap on the black brooks so we can compare.
tomorrow, dear, tomorrow.
All this excitement and worry has me plum tuckered out! I'm going to relax and start again tomorrow. I need to make some saddle adjustments anyway (thanks to tips from Knotted), so I'll post pictures and figure out which saddle before I do that.
Tune in tomorrow.
What room is that in? I think it needs to stay there. Looks great with the color of the wood and walls!