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Mimi - did you look into that Terry?

Bike Theology:
The bike's soul is in the frame, the components are like clothes or earrings or something. You can change them out or take them off, the bike is still "there" in the frame.

Sell or give the frame to someone, and you've given them the "bike." All you have at that point are components.

Now, which tube contains the bike's soul? If you have to replace a tube... say cuz you ran your bike on the roof-rack into your carport... have you changed the bike's soul?

Deep things to ponder while you are dosed up on Day-Quil, eh?

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Originally Posted by KnottedYet

Mimi - did you look into that Terry?

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no. Not sexy enough.

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Bike Theology:
The bike's soul is in the frame, the components are like clothes or earrings or something. You can change them out or take them off, the bike is still "there" in the frame.

Sell or give the frame to someone, and you've given them the "bike." All you have at that point are components.

Now, which tube contains the bike's soul? If you have to replace a tube... say cuz you ran your bike on the roof-rack into your carport... have you changed the bike's soul?

Deep things to ponder while you are dosed up on Day-Quil, eh?

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Yes, these are definitely deep things to ponder! But you have to admit,
taking the components off a bike renders it, uh.. unusable? I hate to use the words I really want to say.

I think the bike/soul theology is the same as the human body/soul theology. The soul is beyond the physical bike itself or the sum of its parts. That said, you need a tube replaced or any of the components etc, that'd be similar to some kind of surgery or injury- in the end, still the same person, fundamentally; their soul is unaltered through the process. If something irreparable happens to the bike and it's no longer useable at all, it has 'died' physically, but its soul is free to escape and become part of some new bike getting soldered together at Specialized just this very moment.

Somewhere there must be a pagan biker version of Hoof and Horn that goes 'Wheel and Crank'... :rolleyes: ;)

I felt bad this morning because I had to kill a little mouse. :(

We keep mousetraps set in the basement, because otherwise mice move in from outdoors and start breeding amongst all our belongings and boxes. Our cats don't go down in the basement (too much oil, dirt and toxin dangers), otherwise there would be NO mouse problem at all. Our cats keep the main part of the house totally mouse-free.
I don't use mouse/rat poison because 1)the cats might eat a dying poisoned mouse if they ever got hold of one, and 2) it's a way slower way more painful death than a mousetrap. I hate the idea of little mice crawling around in agony while they die from poison.

In the fall and winter, I find at least one mouse a week dead in my traps- their necks instantly broken. Very, very efficient.
This morning I was sad to find a mouse that somehow had survived this- had the bar down on his neck but was still very much alive. :( I felt really bad. I knew I had to kill him quickly to end his suffering. Just couldn't bring myself to smash him with something. So I had to drown him. :( :( :( I filled abucket with warm water, dropped him in trap and all, and weight him down with a flowerpot. I felt so BAD! Came back late to fish him out and toss him in the woods.
Mousetraps work GREAT and 99.999% of the time they work in the blink of an eye.
I feel pretty bad about it.

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Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

I felt bad this morning because I had to kill a little mouse. :( So I had to drown him. :( :( :( I filled abucket with warm water, dropped him in trap and all, and weight him down with a flowerpot. I felt so BAD! Came back late to fish him out and toss him in the woods.
Mousetraps work GREAT and 99.999% of the time they work in the blink of an eye.
I feel pretty bad about it.

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Oh, LIsa, I'm sorry. I would hate to kill a little mouse. I have had to kill two rats in the last few years. I felt bad about the first, but not the second.
I caught a mouse at my office a few years ago, took it in to show my boss (holding it by its tail) and then I let it go OUTSIDE.

Where are we...I'm lost! I looked in TD and...<poof> where'd he go...whered'd who go....

Deb: What CC said...can't wait to meet ya! Look me up next time you're in WC!

Dar: When I was first working with a trainer/nutritionist I was on a similar diet. It's not quantity, it's quality.... PM if you need pointers. FWIW, I'm back on the same with the same trainer and I've lost 3 lbs. this week.

Congrats Queen!

X: Pounce...I LIKE it! Can't wait to see her again (this weekend?) Now I just need to think of a name for Roy's Stumpjumper that will soon be mine....bwaaahaaha (he'll never know what hit him...I'm a pro at the Jedi mind trick. "You need a carbon frame MTB...give your MTB to AG" "Yes...I need a carbon frame MTB...I'll give my MTB to AG" you get the idea.)

Mimi: You need some serious bike therapy! ;)

I feel so... naked and exposed with TD moved to OT.... ewwwww.

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Originally Posted by KnottedYet

Congrats, Queen!!!!

(hmmm, hey hon, Wednesday is our 2 month anniversary... how far is that from 17 years?)

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uh, that would be 16 years, 10 months and 2 days to be exact :p ;) :cool:

So Queen, what's the 17 year anniversary? I forget the traditional one. But I think TE TD is the compact double anniversary :D

Lisa I would hate to kill a mouse, I'd probably put him in a portable mouse house and mail him to Nancy....or let him outside.

Oh, I don't know about this OT (non cycling) location, feels so...so...logical and like every one will find us here and not just the 142,215 people who've viewed this thread. I feel so....exposed.

Can't we hide again? Somewhere few go to, regional perhaps, put us in Asia.

I, too, would like to bemoan our move to OT. At least where we were before, there was a sense of privacy. A knowledge that if you found it, and felt like you could keep up, then you deserved the relative privacy and familial bonding of TD...
I thought, also, that we'd voted on a move earlier and decided against it?
Why???

Nooooooooo...eeeeeeee....:eek:

Please please move us back to a quieter space! I'm dazed and confused-which doesn't take much for a crazycanuck

pweeease?

Can anyone think of a logical reason to go to North America at christmas time rather than spring? I've thrown the idea to Ian but he's wondering where i'm taking him that's so secret & you can only do in Canada (so I lie..it might just end up being the F1 in Montreal) in the summer. I'll keep him guessing..It will only work if i delete the internet history when i go searching for indy/f1 tickets..;)

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Be strong girls, change is good for the soul.

My ears itch. On the inside. Arrgh!

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Originally Posted by Kitsune06

I, too, would like to bemoan our move to OT. At least where we were before, there was a sense of privacy. A knowledge that if you found it, and felt like you could keep up, then you deserved the relative privacy and familial bonding of TD...I thought, also, that we'd voted on a move earlier and decided against it? Why???

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I'm going to hold my breath 'till I turn blue :( OK my sweatshirt's blue, how's that?

We could move Alaska, only 4 threads there, they need us.

And less of a commute for CWR.

You could move us to Australia...Ya'll can try tim tams,vegemite & see pelicans on the light posts on the freeway!

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we're up to 651 pages....

I hear that in Alaska there's room for a woman to spread out :)

and I'm having a Dove chocolate so I need that room. :rolleyes:

All those in favor of TE TD II starting there say "aye", shall we just mosey on over? We'll leave a trail of tim tams for others to follow.....

I'm working on beed stew in the crock pot, guess I'll just see where we are when I'd done.

AYE!!!! I love the idea of moving TD. I'm in. Let's all go hang out with CWR. She's totally cool and IMO, mighty cute too.