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That is a very very cool website! Thank you for finding it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Catriona
(oh, man, I love the picture on the home page!)
I wonder if Joneswares' hi-vis wool is this stuff? http://www.mapp.co.nz/work_wear/hi-vis.php (they have the Zque logo on their site, so seems like it could be)
what I want to know is why does my new Green Ibex jacket have a label that says "FINE AUSTRIAN WOOL" on it??
(Not australian!?)
Because the loden wool fabric was bought from a factory in Austria? Is it a loden jacket?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biciclista
ETA: oooh, this is a nice looking loden.... now look at what you made me do! http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product...-europa-jacket
EATA: Is this what you got? http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product...acket?Outlet=1 The wool is from Australia, which was sent to Austria and made into loden fabric, which was sent to the USA and made into that LOVELY jacket which is on sale RIGHT NOW, dang it....
oh thank you Knott! i thought it was a typo! LOL~! I had no idea wool was still being produced in Austria :D
http://www.mapp.co.nz/
Ok, so it's NOT 100% merino wool? "Merino Advanced Performance Programme (MAPP)"....From what I'm reading on their site (and they sure make it damned HARD to figure out just what it is), "MAPP" is a fabric made of merino wool combined or layered with with recycled polyester fiber. "MAPP TECH" fabric using 100% merino wool- in it's content.
It would be nice if the content was made clear.
And what do they mean by:
"MAPP Merino wool, named after New Zealand's famous, specially-bred Merino sheep".....:confused: "named after"???
Hmmm....... :cool:
What does the label say the content is?
I don't know if MAPP tech is a different fabric from just plain MAPP. Because I can't see how they can claim MAPP is 100% natural & renewable if it's recycling polyester involved.
I can't tell on their website. I know the one t shirt that I have that I know is MAPP just feels like wool.
http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodHN_WLSW09.html
http://www.chocolatefishmerino.co.uk/clothing/mapp.html
http://www.mapp.co.nz/attributes/MAPP-Attributes.pdf
http://www.howies.co.uk/content.php?xId=7&xPg=1
although this swobo page says:
http://www.bicyclinghub.com/swmewojeor.html
MAPP Matrix is a new range of technical fabrics designed with a performance edge. Lightweight, robust and comfortable, MAPP Matrix maximizes the performance potential of the wearer, by promoting the balanced regulation of core body temperature and providing protection and comfort in competitive, extreme conditions. At the core of any MAPP Matrix fabric is an inner base-layer of 100% Natural MAPP Merino, which is linked with a protective outer-layer of technical performance fabric. Next to skin core comfort with a technical outer edge.
MAPP Merino is an annually renewable, natural product. It is durable when in use, yet recyclable and biodegradable at the end of its life cycle
It is produced in free range farming systems, which are animal - and environment friendly. Our selected farms are chosen for their commitment to environmental responsibility and sustainability in farm management practices, as well as the superb quality of their Merino wool. Our philosophy reflects our dedication to environmentally friendly fabric manufacturing and finishing processes, to ensure our fabrics remain a sustainable and biodegradable resource.
The paper hang tags *and* the sewn-in garment tags all say "100% New Zealand Merino Wool".Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
Susan
As near as I can tell, MAPP, MAPP Tech and MAPP Matrix are 3 different fabrics. MAPP Tech and MAPP Matrix use MAPP combined with other textiles to create wool-blend fabrics for purposes for which 100% Merino would be inappropriate or less than ideal.
"Merino" Advanced Performance Programme named after "Merino" sheep. Works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
Merino sheep were a crazy new creature back in the 1700's or so. I was reading a book on the history of wool and there was a whole section on what a closely guarded secret Merino were, and how HUGE the punishment would be if anyone sold a breeding pair outside of Spain. (I think it was Spain that bred them first) Now I've got to go find that book again. It was truly fascinating! Wool was like the life-blood and cornerstone of commerce and politics in Europe.
Nowdays I don't think we see much of any other sort of wool in clothing. National Geographic did a big spread on wool 15 or 20 years ago; I have that tucked away somewhere, too. It had a nice pictoral of the different breeds of sheep and the different qualities of their wools.
ETA: here's the wikipedia on merino, covers some of the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merino_sheep Now I really want to find that history book again.
2009 is the International Year of Natural Fibers! Cool!
http://www.naturalfibres2009.org/
Oh, yummy... http://www.bluehouseyarns.co.nz/
ETA: The IYofNF site is really good! I'm like a kid in a candy shop!
October 17 and 18.
This looks like great fun! http://www.sheepandwool.com/
Ok, thanks for the explanation. So a shirt that's labeled "100% MAPP merino wool" is 100% merino wool ...I guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by Susan Otcenas
I still wish they would make it all a bit clearer.
If the label on an item says "100% merino wool" then that's what we must assume it is.
Oooooh, title and author please? I love agricultural history!Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
I can't find it!Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
I last read it about 10 years ago, and I'm afraid I've misplaced it in the course of several moves. It had a green cover, and was hard bound, maybe published in the 1970's... oh, phooey.
Yes that's like an hour from me...and I never seem to be able to get there! :( Always something conflicting on my schedule. this year too- my husband's big family reunion that weekend in Mass. (can't miss it- the first time my husband will have seen his cousins, aunts and uncles in like 35 years or so. !)Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
Oh....I feel spending coming on! Did you all get the email from Ibex about their new Carrie? It is really sharp looking and totally different from all my existing Ibex stuff. I think I might need one (or two, or three....).
I know some of you don't like the boucle fabric - but I do. I have 4 Carrie hoodies and I LOVE them. I'm so excited that they've created a new style!!
http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product...mens-carrie-fz
lol. The thing I love about you guys is that you always make me feel restrained. I can now pat myself upon the back for only having 2 carrie hoodies.
I love them both though.
While I love the red on the new carrie, I think I prefer the old style.
I confess that I think I have enough nice wool stuff to last me already for a while without buying any new wool this winter. :eek: (in reality, i likely have enough wonderful wool to last me the next 10 years!)
The only thing that might have tempted me is some new Shak color I couldn't resist. But oh well, no new shak colors that appeal to me this Fall.
Can i make it through the whole Fall and winter without buying any new wool pieces?
I think I might only allow myself a thrift shop bargain if I found one.
Oh, for shame! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
I don't have any wool jerseys anymore. I used to have some fabulous Italian ones back in the 80s when they were the norm.
But that's soon to change...
I really want one of those Ride Like A Girl longsleeve wool jerseys that Terry is selling. But at $135, it ain't gonna happen. However, I'm keeping my eyes out for some that are a bit more reasonable, if not as cute.
I want that new Shak "jersey." But, it's $135.00. Probably won't be at any discounters, since it's new...
I think I might be buying some wool LS shirts, dressier t's like the Kate. I already have 2 of those, so does anyone have any recommendations for something similar? I really can't wear wool any heavier than that next to my skin; even the Kates start to itch me a little, especially if I am wearing a Shak over it.
The long sleeve pointelle is really soft and nice next to the skin (and it's on sale). It's a bit sheer though so while it's not see-thru, it may not be a good protection from a shak if you find that itchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankin
I like the look of the Tarrah and I believe that's the same fabric as the Kate...but it's new and therefore still expensive!
I really need some wool Injinji socks.
Wish I could find somewhere around here that stocks them. I haven't been much in the mood for mail order lately. except for that big order I just got from TE
Running in the Ibex Izzi pants: not recommended!! I did that today and tripped by catching my toe on the bottom of the opposite pant leg b/c the pants are flared. At least this happened on wood chips in the park rather than on the pavement or on a rocky trail, so it was a soft landing (plus I wasn't going that fast). The pants are comfy and great for general everyday wear, but not so much for running (or am I just a klutz?).
Joneswares www.joneswares.com has several wool pants and tights that look like they'd be good for running in. I'm going to order the Trail pants (cuz I think I can wear them at work, on the bike commute, and for running) soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
Be careful you don't buy any of the older wool injinis. The wool was very poor quality and fell apart quickly. (don't buy the ones on the sale page)Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
That might be something to check out. I also have a pair of the Ibex Loose Tights and those will probably be my cool-weather running pants since they are much less likely to trip me up than the ones I wore today.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up, Knot!Quote:
Originally Posted by KnottedYet
About that wool book...
Amazon has a few possibilities:
The History Of Wool And Woolcombing (1889)
The Sheep and Its Skin: A Text-Book of the History, Breeds, Feeding, Diseases, and Afflictions of the Sheep; and of the Pelt and Wool Conservation, Fellmongering ... of the Pelt Prior to Tanning [ 1913 ]
A short history of wool and its manufacture (mainly in England)
An Illustrated World History of The Sheep and Wool Industry (Hardcover)
When I couldn't find my book I searched Amazon, too, and this is the one that sounded right. But there weren't any pictures or excerpts, so I can't be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by malkin
The Patagonia tights came yesterday. I wish I could've bought 2 pair. They're wonderful and will be perfect for under wind pants.
Deb
Hey, here's that book for free!
http://www.archive.org/details/histo...andw00burngoog
*swoon!* :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by malkin
That. Is. Beautiful!
I am beside myself with excitement! It's not the book I lost, but wow, what a cooooooool book and cool find! How on earth did you find that? Oh, man, too bad I have so many errands to do today, or I'd stay in with a cup of tea and READ!
I'm in awe! You rock! :D
Aw...shucks...
My mom was a librarian.
So was mine.
(and so was I!)
But I left the library world just as the internet burst onto the scene, so I'm very behind the times.
Man, that Internet Archives site is AWESOME!
You TOTALLY rock!
DH and I just stopped by Marshalls on a whim (in San Jose at Stevens Creek & Lawrence) and they have TONS of wool and cashmere sweaters for both men and women. Got a lot of xmas shopping done!
Jenn
I know there are some knitters on TE; there is a gorgeous (free!) pattern for a wool cycling aran: http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/cycling-aran
This is in my queue, maybe someday my friends will stop reproducing and I can stop knitting for babies and get this done for me instead.
Oh cool!Quote:
Originally Posted by malkin
Haven't looked at it much yet, but that's great. I mostly use archive.org to download jam band concerts... Thanks! :D
Ravelry looks like fun!
I just scored a cranberry full zip Shak for 99.00 at Oregon Mountain Community on line. Never heard of this place before, but it came up in a search. Looks like they have cool stuff and free shipping over $50.00. There were a couple of other Shaks left, mostly L and XL sizes.