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OMG. You know how on Star Trek, the original one, they had the "Universal Translator"? (OK, you may be too young, but play along). It took any language from anywhere in the universe and translated it into English. Handy tool. You're in luck! I just happen to have one! Here we go, cranking it up....

"I can't handle it when other people are hurt or scared...because I care too much"------------>(translated into real language)------>"I am too self-centered to care about anyone else!"

Wow! Who would've guessed that's what that really means?! :eek: OK, indignant rant over.

When you love someone, you want to be of comfort to them in their time of need. That's the kind of SO you richly deserve. Some of us have that, some of us are looking. I try to remember that I have cleared out the space in my life for that wonderful, loving person to come in. And in the meantime, I treat myself with the love and care I deserve, and I revel in the friendship of those who care about me, and who are delighted that I care about them.

How to handle it? Put down the phone. Don't call her. Don't email her. Spend your time with the friends who treat you right. Call them, email them, eat and drink with them, go for bike rides with them. Tell them how hard it is not to call "her", and make deals that you'll call them first before you hit that speed dial. Walk away, however falteringly, and it will get better. Not quickly, but it will get better. I know. I really do.

Sending you gentle best wishes in this tough time. (((KN))) Lise

Lise you crack me up!!! :D (Trekkie at heart.)

Sorry Knotted, I think she's right, though. Huge bummer but better to start to realize this now than after another 7 years?

What Lise sed, She's right ya know. You deserve way better. An if the In'SO calls this is why caller id was invented. :cool:

It sounds like you have got a great group of friends, talk to them, spend time with them, they will get you through this.

Lise can the board I borrow the Universal Translator some time? I'm sure we'd like to know what does "It's not you it's me" mean?

KN - I have to agree with Lise - I read that last part "...because I care to much" and I just thought to myself - wow - that is some kind of BS! Actually, I used a few additional expletives...

It really is awful to find out after a long time that the person you thought you'd be there for through whatever life dealt does not have the same plans for you (for me it was 14 years). But - you deserve - we all deserve - that kind of person in our lives - Lise said it so well - call on your friends (and family?) - they will help you remember that your world is full of people who love and care for you and WILL be there for you. Take very good care of yourself!

Lise said it perfectly and everyone else summed it up just as perfectly. I ditto that.

Star Trek - Universal translator
Hitchhiker's guide - babblefish
Farscape - translator microbes.

I'm pretty sure they would all give the same translation Lise came up with! Well said!

Well, let me just also take it a bit further.

Before I type anything else, let me assure everyone, I have kissed quite a few frogs in my time. Furthermore, I would ditto everyone else's post. If is ribbits, hops, and eats flies, it's a frog. Better let this one hop over to another pond.

But here is the question that I can't ever find an answer for, maybe you all can help me.

Why do we get involved with folks like this???????

(Food for thought from someone who can happily report that the only frogs in my life today are the ones my boys bring in the house....)

((((Knotted))))

I'm glad you were able to endure the MRI. They do sound intense.

In terms of the ex-SO, I remembering you mentioning somewhere that she just couldn't handle things. IMHO, I think that might be the healthiest way to look at her actions (or lack of).

I have found it easier to let go of an SO when I think of it in that light. When I am angry, I am hooked still and more vulnerable to getting hurt.

The sad thing is that sometimes people just aren't up to the task of being there when things get tough. I hope you can find the strength to let her go, unless she suddenly realizes that she has been MIA and is willing to step up and do couple's counseling, etc.

Never mind. I always get yelled at by everyone. Everything will be fine, we'll all live to be one hundred, and our DH's/SO's/BF's will never abandon us.

Nanci

I am adopting two Desert Tortoises (from a research project in Florida, unreleasable) tomorrow!

I am not going to name them until I see them. They are two-year-olds- and won't be sexable until 5-10 years of age.

Maybe I should give them dessert names, since I keep misspelling "desert."

Ooh Nanci - please post pics of them after they come to their new home! That'll help us come up with name suggestions, too. What are you going to house them in? Hmmmm - I like the idea of dessert names. I have issues with spelling it, too.

so we need gender neutral dessert names?

Creme Brullee (sp?) sounds kinda like a drag queen.
Baked Alaska, hmmm, baked! There's that desert theme. If one's dumber than the other they could be Baked...and Half Baked.
Better Than S** Chocolate Cake....too long, but hey, not a bad idea. Could be better than kissing frogs. :)

ooh, and Turtles are a desert, I mean dessert. But would Tortoises object to being called Turtles?

Wow Nanci - that is so cool!

Our last control in the brevet was at a cafe in Marshall right on the ocean, where they have tanks of turtles and tortoises. I'd never been in before and am still half wondering if I didn't hallucinate the turtles/tortoises. :p Anyway, the turtles were super engaging - they would come over and watch me while I was standing waiting for my BLT. I think they probably expected I would feed them.

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I'm sure we'd like to know what does "It's not you it's me" mean?

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I'm pretty sure it just means: "Actually, it is you." :p

Here's a fun translator reference that y'all have probably seen before:

Men's English:
I'm hungry = I'm hungry.
I'm sleepy = I'm sleepy.
I'm tired = I'm tired.
Do you want to go to a movie? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
Can I take you out to dinner? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
Can I call you sometime? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
May I have this dance? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
Nice dress! = Nice cleavage!
You look tense, let me give you a massage. = I want to fondle you.
What's wrong? = I don't see why your making such a big deal about this.
What's wrong? = What meaningless self-inflicted psychological trauma are you going through now?
What's wrong? = I guess sex tonight is out of the question?
I'm bored. = Do you want to have sex?
I love you. = Let's have sex now.
I love you, too. = Okay, I said it... we'd better have sex now!
Yes, I like the way you cut your hair. = I liked it better before.
Let's talk. = I am trying to impress you by showing you that I am a deep person and maybe then you'd like to have sex with me.
Will you marry me? = I want to make it illegal for you to have sex with other guys.

Women's English:
Yes = Yes
No = Yes
Maybe = No
I'm sorry = You'll be sorry
We need = I want
It's your decision = The correct decision should be obvious by now.
Do what you want = You'll pay for this later.
We need to talk = I need to complain.
Sure go ahead = I don't want you to.
I'm not upset = Of course I'm upset
You're so manly = You need a shave and you sweat a lot.
You're certainly attentive tonight = Is sex all you ever think about?
Be romantic, turn out the lights = I have flabby thighs.
This kitchen is so inconvenient = I want a new house.
I want new curtains = and carpeting, and furniture, and wallpaper.....
Hang the picture there = NO, I mean hang it there!
I heard a noise = I noticed you were almost asleep.
Do you love me? = I'm going to ask for something expensive.
How much do you love me? = I did something today you're really not going to like.
I'll be ready in a minute = Kick off your shoes and find a good game on TV.
You have to learn to communicate = Just agree with me.
Are you listening to me!? = {Too late, you're dead.}
Was that the baby? = Why don't you get out of bed and walk him until he falls asleep.
I'm not yelling! = Yes, I am yelling because I think this is Important.
The same old thing = Nothing
Nothing = Everything
Everything = My PMS is acting up.
Nothing, really = It's just that you're such an a$$hole.

Dianyla:that about sums it up! :p

Nanci: "sexable"? I'm going with the most benign thing that could mean, and guessing that's when you can tell what sex they are.

Trek:"It's not you,it's me"------->"It's me. I don't like you."

fishdr: translator microbes? COOL!

KnottedYet: Like they said. And yes, I know how excruciatingly hard it is. One of my good friends puts it best: You're just not compatible. As in: I'm not compatible with anyone who would hit me when she's frustrated or angry. I'm not compatible with someone who would sleep with me and then not return my calls. You're not compatible with someone who can't support you when you have an MRI. And the search continues for the one with whom I am compatible! In the mean time, great friends, great coffee, great bike, new insights. Hang in there. L.

Good news!

Doc called me at work, said the MRI results were "normal, for the most part." So, there's no sign of MS or wayward cancer cells!

Still gotta go to the neurologist and try to track down what is causing all these wacky central nervous system glitches. But it's such a huge relief that it isn't either of those things!

Nanci - I like the idea of naming the torties after desserts. Aren't there some famous "Torte" names? Like some german cake, or French cake, or something has some cool name. All I can think of at the moment is "almond torte" but that's not what I'm trying to come up with.

I also like "Baked" and "Half-Baked". Creme Brulee and Creme Fraiche (sp). I used to have a tortoise back when I was about 10. He lived in the garden.

CONGRATULATIONS!!! I am so happy for you!! Now you don't have it hanging over your head any more. I get weird neuro symptoms every once in a while- visual disturbances and narrowing field of vision, which lasts for 20 minutes then goes away. Like a migraine aura, without the headache. I have a hole in my heart that might be letting bad things through to my brain, that normally my lungs would filter out, plus AVM's in my lungs, and that's why I can't dive (deep, at least) any more. There's probably "lesions" (whatever that means) in my brain from decompression diving, all the bubbles that got through before I knew, and I could have an MRI to check, but, since there isn't anything to be done anyway, my cardiologist and I decided I would just rather not know. I can pretend to be normal!

Not sure about the dessert names yet. I tried to look some up in my calorie counter software. Cupcake? Cutie Pie? Ho Ho and Ding Dong? (Just kidding!)

Ho Ho and Ding Dong? Oh, go on - I dare you! :D

Good news, Knotted. Thanks for keeping us posted.

Congrats KnottedYet! That's fantastic news. I'll keep thinking positive healthy thoughts on the CNS glitches. Hopefully it's an easy fix. At least the 2 big nasties were ruled out!

Nanci - baked and half-baked are my favorites so far.

Ho Ho and Ding Dong would work out well if they were a pair...It's kind of funny in a twisted way.

I think that's it then, if I get them and they fit the names.

Got the tank all converted- timothy pellet substrate, already had two turtle garages (half logs) got some bermuda hay, some super-special tortoise pellets, some salad (green beans/summer squash/parsnips/mangos). A pretty purple food dish. Already had the desert light.

These guys can get to be 19"!! I can't wait to build an outside habitat for them. Poor little guys, I bet they're about 3" long right now...

They're supposed to have a lot of personality.

Nanci

Excellent news Knotted!!

Nancy I like Ho Ho and Ding Dong. I think those would be great names. Boy would my daughter be jealous if she knew about that. She's always trying to get another pet - she's pretty much species indiscriminate.

I don't know if I can still love my Doctor Friend from Gray's Anatomy First Season. It's the last episode, and, of course, how did I not see it coming, he'[s married...

....have they ruled out coffee withdrawl?

Nanci "Ho Ho and Ding Dong would work out well"

'till Ho Ho tells you "who're you callin' a Ho?"

and what if Ding Dong turns out to be a girl? :cool: :rolleyes: ;) JK.

Ohh, "Torte" names, how on earth did I miss the obvious pun? Linzer Torte-ois, Sacher Torte-ois...

Don't they live to be 100 or something?

And Nanci, the Dr? We never see it coming. And they say the good fictional characters are all taken.

Good news Knotted! Nice of the doc to call so quick with the results.

TreK: I'd be more inclined to believe chocolate withdrawl! Actually, I'm really hoping it's B12 malapsorption bad enough that sublingual B12 doesn't cut it anymore. That's simple! Easy to manage! Someone said she does B12 shots to herself. Hmmm, if that'll fix my issues I'd do it, too!

Called s.o. and left message about "normal for the most part" MRI. She called me back within 5 minutes, all nice again. I'm doing some serious thinking.:(

Nanci: I love the idea of Ho-Ho and Ding-Dong! And Linzer and Sacher! When you see their sweet little faces and get to know their personalities, you'll know what names fit them best. We need to see some pictures of these cuties!

Knotted--so glad to hear your good news. :)

Nanci--it will be so cool to learn about their little tortise personalities. I like Ho-ho and Dingdong, but I have a fondness for snack cakes. Mostly for the memory of snack cakes, really....:rolleyes:

Good night, all--L.

KnottedYet - aren't there B vitamins in beer? No, I'm not suggesting drinking your way through this.

"Called s.o. and left message about "normal for the most part" MRI. She called me back within 5 minutes, all nice again. I'm doing some serious thinking.:( "

aaaack, I'd step awaaaay from the speed dial with someone like that. OK, so this just demonstrates she's a fair weather "more than just friends".

off to find my sleeping bag, where'd I put it? I will be doing a 2 day ride, from SF to the Russian River and back weekend after next.

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off to find my sleeping bag, where'd I put it? I will be doing a 2 day ride, from SF to the Russian River and back weekend after next.

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Wow, cool ride. Do you have to carry your own gear?

Oh g** no, I'm nowhere near that strong.

I'm nervous about this ride but I did it years ago. They truck our gear to Cassini Ranch which is near the end of the Russian River. The ride is put on by the Positive Peddlers. It's called the Jonathon Pon 2-day ride. In the past years they limited it to the Pos Peds. this year they decided to open it up to all the ALC riders. I keep telling them "I'm a training ride leader, not a registered rider"

Maybe they'll wake up and kick me out and I'll have a convenient excuse.

I hear Shadon is doing this ride too?

What a great ride, Trek! You'll be riding through my back yard - be sure to wave! :)

wow, nice backyard!

I think Jobob and Leebob also have one of the nicest "roll out the door and ride" backyards, near ACT.

Well, you'll be passing my "back yard" early in the ride, in Mill Valley. But I feel like your whole route is probably in my cycling backyard as that's where I do 80% of all my riding!

What's your route? Are you going through Freestone/Occidental, or straight up the coast??

I know all the best bakeries if you want any suggestions! :D

I love overnight rides. They should have more.

I have the babies. One is bigger, darker, braver. One is smaller, yellower, more timid. I think I will name her Buttercup. I had a big old yellow box turtle about 20 years ago by that name. I'm leaning toward Koko (because he's kind of a dark choc color) for the other.

I had a male Siamese, half of a pair, named Koko, as in Ko-Ko and Yum-Yum from "The Mikado." Maybe I have run out of original names. Ho Ho and Ding Dong just didn't fit. So then maybe I should name the other one Yum-Yum.

My Yummy cat was sweet, small, cross-eyed, and just slightly "not all there." All my other pets gave her special treatment. Drazil, the three-foot long free-range iguana, who viciously chased the other cats, would allow her to sit in the sun in the windowsill and nuzzle him.

KoKo and Buttercup.

It sounds ok.

Got my welcome letter for 3-State 3-Mountain. I wish there wasn't 50% chance of rain. I will have to _force_ myself to take pictures. It is going to be so beautiful. I hate how I carry my camera all the time, but never want to stop.

Right now Buttercup is asleep in a pile of hay, and KoKo is asleep under a hollow log on a heating pad. KoKo climbed the pile of hay to the top of the hollow log. He is very strong and brave.

I think I finally like Chardonnay. The oak used to really put me off, but I found a couple I liked, lately the Covey Run. Tonight I am going to taste a new one, the Fetzer.

The eagle's live feed is down. The forum is in a frenzy.

Awww, your babies sound so sweet. And I'm glad to hear there's kindness in the heart of an giant iguana for a ditzy kitty. This thread is a hoot! You learn the best stuff here. We tri-girls have it good. Think anybody else is going to notice that where most threads have 6, 14 replies, this thread has over 200? :) L.

I like the Fetzer. KoKo is out wandering about. I have eaten a _very_ good dinner of jambalaya and sausage, out on my patio with Dillbird, reading Runner's World about some run in some wilderness in Idaho. Life is so good!

I think KoKo needs to learn about evening patio-sittings/crow watchings/ wine tastings with me and Dillbird. Since he's having trouble going to sleep for the night. Buttercup is more like me- out like a light, very early.

I wonder if KoKo has ever seen grass, in the wild.

That eagle story made me almost cry.

More people have watched them than anything except the Pope!!

The live eagle feed is back! It wasn't a conspiracy after all!! I hate how "trolls" post untrue things on there, to get everyone upset. The bird wouldn't be on the nest if the egg was gone. Get on the clue bus.

FWIW, I don't expect a fruitful outcome anymore. I'm sad that they are apparently beyond their child-bearing years. Still- when I didn't know any better, it was very exciting. I'm so in awe of how Nature works.

Didn't it say on the webpage that the second egg was due to hatch sometime this week? So - I think there's still hope.

The story also brought tears to my eyes. That was really nice. I kept reading, knowing where it was going, but eagerly reading on. Thanks again!

Congrats on KoKo and Buttercup. You sound like a proud new mama. When do we get to see pics? Or have you enjoyed the wine too much.

As a cousin to your jambalaya, we're having shrimp creole tonight :)

I think tomorrow, when they have settled in, I will get better pictures. I have pics tonight, but they are kind of birds-eye-view.

Here's Koko:

And here's Buttercup:

Is KoKo sitting in guacamole??

What sweeties! If that is guac, can i have some? (ha ha, just kidding!)

We're having jambalaya and sausage tonight, too. Zatarains and turkey kielbasa (the kielbasa was cheap). Small Knot won't eat red meat, hence the turkey (and chicken, TJ's cajun chicken sausage is the best).

Today I bought turkey Spam, and we sang Monty Python's "Spam" song all through the grocery store. Small Knot swears he won't eat it. I have ways...;)