drops/brakes

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Originally Posted by elk

let's talk about me a little longer...:rolleyes:

Lisa, Liza et al ;look at these and tell me if you think these will help...(I'm on the hunt for shims)

http://www.modolo.com/1_road_handlebars_temp.php?id=9

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I can't quite decipher the wording of their description:
"Five-stars comfort introduced in 1998: higher raise for "Gran Fondo" allowes a very comfortable rest-giving position, that is extremely appreciated especially in the long distance races and a very short shape "Venus" than decrease to 12 mm. the brake-lever distance. "

HUH???? Very confusing. :confused:

Compare that to Salsa's helpful descriptions of their bars, where they give exact measurements...including both REACH and DROP distances:
http://www.salsacycles.com/handlebars.html

i think it's just a bad translation....:p here's a better one:
http://estore.websitepros.com/193951...ars/Detail.bok

here's imilia's easton:
hers is the carbon EC90 equipe pro

Just noticed a dumb but confusing typo in my earlier post.

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Originally Posted by liza

The issue you are having with handlebar reach is associated with the bend shape of the handlebar, not the reach (imagine a vertical line drawn perpendicular to the ground, from the bar top to somewhere at the end of the drop. Now bisect that line with a horizontal, perpendicular to the ground line that extends to the farthest point at the drop bend. The distance of this second line is the "reach" of your bar), or the drop (that's the length of the first line, actually).

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Ok, that section in red should read "a horizontal, parallel-to-the-ground line." Oops.

Elk,
The Modolo bars have a nice shape, that does look like it could bring your levers closer. My only concern about them is that it looks like they have given you a fairly limited range of hood adjustability, if you want to take advantage of that nice curve. Modolo has a very specific place where you are "supposed" to put the hoods. The picture in earlier TE thread you referenced shows this -- notice her hoods are fairly low, at least compared to how a lot of people are running them now. If you are comfortable with your hoods on the low side, those bars should be fine. If you like to run your hoods a little higher, you might not get quite as much benefit from that bend (it might still be better than what you have though).

Something like this might give you more hood options while still bringing your levers closer:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5255

Oversize, though... Why can't they just use one standard???!!!!!

the Easton bar comes in 26.0....and Sierra has it...but the smallest size is 42...38 is the size that of the Ritcheys on my Aurora; I can;t imagine 2mm per side would make that much difference for me. ?

also, Liza, re the Modolas, my stem is adjustable and one can always adjust the position of the bar IN the stem..right?

boy o boy...I learn alot from this list!!!

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Originally Posted by elk

the Easton bar comes in 26.0....and Sierra has it...but the smallest size is 42...38 is the size that of the Ritcheys on my Aurora; I can;t imagine 2mm per side would make that much difference for me. ?

also, Liza, re the Modolas, my stem is adjustable and one can always adjust the position of the bar IN the stem..right?

boy o boy...I learn alot from this list!!!

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If you need a 38 bar you should not get a 42....it might lead to subtle shoulder/elbow issues. Plus, again, it might make it harder to wrap your fingers around the brake levers if the bar is too wide.

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Originally Posted by elk

the Easton bar comes in 26.0....and Sierra has it...but the smallest size is 42...38 is the size that of the Ritcheys on my Aurora; I can;t imagine 2mm per side would make that much difference for me. ?

also, Liza, re the Modolas, my stem is adjustable and one can always adjust the position of the bar IN the stem..right?

boy o boy...I learn alot from this list

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Elk:
you wouldn't think it, but 4cm makes a BIG difference. I can definitely tell the difference just between 38s and 40s, and find 38s more comfortable. My old bike came stock with 42s, and they were very awkward for me -- much too large. Don't compromise on size just because Sierra has a good deal... you'll regret it.

As to the ability to adjust the bar in the stem (rolling it up or down) -- yes, you can compensate with this a little bit, but there's a fairly small range of bar angles that put both the tops and the drops at comfortable angles, so don't count on being to make up too much.

I don't think your adjustable stem is going to address the potential issue of limited hood adjustability, because the problem isn't the actual height of the bars/hoods (from the ground, or relative to your saddle, or whatever), but the angle they put your wrist in at a given placement.

If it's any consolation I obsessed endlessly about which bars and which stem to get for my new bike :).

I found the Easton bar...equipe pro...in a 40.....??

is the shape and size otherwise good?

I think the Equipe Pro looks like a good shape.

40 is a really common size -- maybe you could find a friend who has 40s and take his or her bike out for a spin to make sure the size is comfortable before you commit?

AH! I was at some friend's last night, looking at old Cinelli bars which I thought were sweet and round and look what i found....in 26 38cm:

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...2&category=636

argghhh
here's what I have so far

current: Ritchey Biomax ergo 130 drop 75

others:
138 110 cinelli traditional curve 110 is the measurement of the bottom of the bar
130 75 easton "
125 80 modolo "
138 86 deda elem4 girls ergo?

Elk, check your email- I located some Tiagra shims for you.

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Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl

Elk, check your email- I located some Tiagra shims for you.

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that's my attempt at a bouquet of flowers...looks like an owl though...:D

to further complicate matters....or perhaps to simplify...http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...&category=1726

shims that turn 26.00 bars into 31.8 capable bars...which means I could actually get those FSA Wings like Liza's which I like the looks of....

:eek:

LOL here I am talking to myself again....I do it in life too:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by elk

to further complicate matters....or perhaps to simplify...http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...&category=1726

shims that turn 26.00 bars into 31.8 capable bars...which means I could actually get those FSA Wings like Liza's which I like the looks of....

:eek:

LOL here I am talking to myself again....I do it in life too:rolleyes:

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Those will adapt a smaller bar to a larger stem. I think you have the opposite situation (you have a small stem that you WISH would take a larger diameter bar). So sadly they won't help :(...