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Originally Posted by Zen

True, but there's a bit more to it than that.

Lower economic class = less education, less knowledge about options.
Also, without financial support, a woman often feels she has no where else to go.

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Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:

http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette...r_eneste_kveld

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Originally Posted by Duck on Wheels

A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:

http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette...r_eneste_kveld

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That's amazing! :D:eek::D:p Good thing she has the towel turban.

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Originally Posted by Duck on Wheels

Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

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Anyone remember Charlotte Fedders? It hasn't been all that long ago.

A woman whose husband is wealthy isn't necessarily wealthy herself... even if some or all of the money was hers originally. Economic abuse is a key factor of domestic violence.

And, a woman from a wealthy family may feel she has an image to protect, may never have heard her peers talking about being abused themselves, may feel even more isolated than poor women who have always shared such stories with their peers, and who have no class-status barriers to going to the shelter.

The story the OP linked to originally had to do with the attitudes of children, not the actual incidence of DV. Their opinions have as much to do with verbal abuse in the home, women's status in their schools and places of worship, and the general portrayal of women in the media, as with any specific occurrences in their homes.

Certainly economic stress is one of the stressors that can make a physical slap out of what might otherwise have been an insult. But it didn't create the power inequality in the relationship, and that's the root of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Duck on Wheels

A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:
http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette...r_eneste_kveld

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This was our Jennie cat. Taking a nap on my stepson's head in 1999. :D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2784/...8bd06b6523.jpg

Lisa - I keep meaning to tell you, my niece adopted a dog and named him Bleeker (she has a thing for NYC). Every time she mentions him it reminds me of you. :D

I am beginning to hate my dentist. I feel like I am in a used car place when I go there. I have no allegiance to her, she took over the practice from the person I was seeing, although I had only been there about 4 years.
I have had very little dental work in my life. I go four times a year, as I do have periodontal concerns that I want to keep at bay. Both my parents had major gum surgery by the time they were my age. I have about 6-8 fillings. I had one "redone" with new materials 2 dentists ago, who also took over from another one that left for medical reasons. I liked her...
But both this new woman and the one before the one before just keep/kept harassing me to have all of my other fillings redone. I've done 2 or 3 more, but I really don't see the point. Nothing hurts. I go often enough that if an issue is developing, I will get it done. I have dental insurance, so it's not the money.
She kept doing the same to my DH, who has even less fillings than me. One turned out to be a bigger issue than she thought (again, he had no symptoms) and he had to go through 6 months of stuff, going to a specialists, etc. She is not an incompetent practitioner, but I want to be left alone.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b.../badgerhat.jpg

Ack! Not badgers again!

Crankin - can you get friends or family to recommend a new dentist?

And you're reminding me I need to make my appointment :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure I'm going to need another crown before the year's out.

Thank goodness I really like my dentist. I just lucked into him.

Oh, I can find a decent dentist without any issue. I've had like 5 in the past 20 years... they keep moving or leaving, or I move.

I am going to think about it...

That badger needs a dentist. Badly!

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Originally Posted by Pax

Lisa - I keep meaning to tell you, my niece adopted a dog and named him Bleeker (she has a thing for NYC). Every time she mentions him it reminds me of you. :D

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Tell her I lived at 174 Bleecker St. (x MacDougal St.), top floor, when i was a little girl. :p

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Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl

Tell her I lived at 174 Bleecker St. (x MacDougal St.), top floor, when i was a little girl. :p

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I'll tell her, she'll be very excited that I "know" a New Yorker. :D

Crankin, maybe they're concerned about the mercury? I know someone who had all her fillings redone because of her fear of mercury. There was a dentist in town pushing it heavily.

I have two "temporary" crowns in my mouth that I got when I was 16. (Parents never took me back for the rest.) Every dentist I've seen thinks they're fine, since they've been in there that long.

Karen

Trouble with that is, removing the fillings sprays pulverized mercury all over everything, you breathe in what you don't swallow. BTDT, no way around it when the old filling wears out or the tooth cracks.

It's not the mercury. It's that "the filling might wear out."

I got an email "customer service" thing from her and I said exactly what I said here.

I'm really lucky with my dentist, when I asked her if we should start changing out my old fillings for new material, she said "they holding up fine, let's wait to change them until they're not".

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Originally Posted by lph

That badger needs a dentist. Badly!

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Not as badly as it needs a manicure!

Ello..

Hey Snap..Happy Birthday!!! :)

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Originally Posted by crazycanuck

Ello..

Hey Snap..Happy Birthday!!! :)

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Why thank ye kindly! :cool::D

Belated Snappy b'day. :D

Did I miss the party? Belated Happy Birthday from me too, Snap!

:eek: it hit 40C today!!! :eek: I went for a ride early this morning but the heat hit me about 15km from home :(. I was desperate for shade & there isn't any on the bike path :(. I'm so glad for our reverse cycle air con :)

I had a peek at next week's temps & oooo..it's going to be 27C!!! I'm looking forward to some cooler temps so i can ride to uni. I wanted to this week but with temps around 37C, biking in the middle of the day without any shade just didn't appeal...

It's my day off, it's going to be 60 degrees, and I have a cold!!! :mad:
I have to miss my first group ride of the season, which conveniently is starting right by my house.
Oh well. It's an excuse to miss class tonight. I have to get better for tomorrow night. It's restaurant week and we are going to my favorite place in the North End.

I'm happy to report having had an idea "stolen". Remember when I proposed a bike ride "To H€ll and Back", or maybe it was "H€ll on Wheels"? Well, I mentioned the idea to a neighbor (the guy who invented "Trampe" [Stomper] the bike lift: http://www.trampe.no/english/), who mentioned it to the local chapter of the national bike club ... and next weekend they're gonna do it :D http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=327417146729 The head of the chapter sent me a special invitation to join, but it's still snowing out, too cold for me to ride. No way I'll be in shape for this by next weekend. It's 26 miles each way, and some serious hills :eek: Still ... if the sun is shining, if it's warmed up by that day, if my guts are in a good mood, then maybe, just maybe I'll tag along as "pigtail". After all, I can always cross-train the hills, and I can catch a train back.

Hi all, I've signed up for a charity ride and put a link to my fundraising page in my signature. If I want the link to say something like "my fundraising page" instead of the literal url, how do I do that?

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Originally Posted by NbyNW

Hi all, I've signed up for a charity ride and put a link to my fundraising page in my signature. If I want the link to say something like "my fundraising page" instead of the literal url, how do I do that?

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No dumb questions.

Type in "my fundraising page" or whatever you want it to say.

Then select that text and click on the WWW link icon above the text box (the one that looks like a globe and two links of chain).

Insert the URL in the box that pops up and click OK.

If you want to be sure of it, click Preview Signature and try the link from the preview pane to make sure it works.

I hate photoshop, scales (map) and computers..Thank goodness for smart architecture students in the computer/plotter lab...

It looks like i'll now be riding a red Titus..but not sure when..Interesting developments on that end :rolleyes: Gotta love distributors...

Thanks, Oakleaf!

It is snowing heavily and gusting 40 mph winds. This is really sapping my motivation today. To do anything.

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Edit: this morning I was motivated to go out and buy a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine.

Nby-I hate to tell you this but when i lived in Edmonton, we used to get snowstorms in July....:rolleyes:

Those were the days...:o

When DH got home tonight, I told him Christmas came early so I bought the trainer.

Christmas in July? No sweat. :cool:

Kills the vacation budget for this year, but I'm a proud owner of a new central air conditioner / gas heater system for my house. Had to replace the former system as it's been repaired to the extent of it's life span. In this part of the muggy deep south, and the architecture of my house (ranch, not high ceilings), one just doesn't do without air conditioning :rolleyes:.

So now all I need is new patio furniture, an icy drink, and the vacation will be at my house! :cool:

Enjoy the air con! I guess down in the swampy south you need it!

Speaking of Evap air con...

There was a large industrial fire in a Perth locality this morning and I found something a bit off in one of the news reports I listened to. FESA (fire & emergency services Western Australia www.fesa.wa.gov.au) suggested that people in the area close all thier windows & turn off any evaporative air conditioning.

It's not summer, it just rained & we have nice cool temps...why would you have your evap air con on??? Why would they mention the air con at this time of year?

Odd..very odd...:confused::rolleyes: I had to laugh...

Hey you guys! Long time no see! I was hoping for some Floyd discussion, but can't find anyone, but I thought I'd just say hi while I was here. Hi!

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Originally Posted by Nanci

Hey you guys! Long time no see! I was hoping for some Floyd discussion, but can't find anyone, but I thought I'd just say hi while I was here. Hi!

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Welcome back!! (I changed user names - was CA_in_NC)

I'm surprised there's been no Floyd discussion - I'm disgusted. And I'm not sure what the benefit of trying to smear Armstrong is to Floyd. I actually thought he (Floyd) was clean:rolleyes::rolleyes::confused::(:mad:

OoooooooooooOOOOoooooo :D Hey Hey Nanci!!!! :cool:

I received news today that my new mtn bike bike bike bikeeeeee's on the way.!!!! Weeeeeeee...:D

Now to complete 4 assignments...:eek: within the next 2 weeks...

Oh joy, my fri night reading's going to be "the city of cockburn's R codes" (r codes-residential codes...) as we're to do a response for a planning submission..

Hi there Nanci, good to see you here!