Nah, you're ok people cindysue - if you really pissed us off, we'd hunt you down and steal all your Luna bars...:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cindysue
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Nah, you're ok people cindysue - if you really pissed us off, we'd hunt you down and steal all your Luna bars...:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cindysue
I wonder what the "Z" line will be like....
Don't think you'll catch many zzzzzz's in it!
Hah! (SK - I guess that's payback for yesterday's duck pun, huh?)
It's a bit of a risk being a "Z" - sometimes they just lump the whole end of the alphabet together, and it can be worse than the middle-letter lines.
bikerz, don't I know it. My maiden name is Yoon and I was *always* at the end of the list, line, or whatever I was in. Now that I'm a Bliss it feels sooooooo weird being at the beginning. heh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerz
Mel
bikerz "It's a bit of a risk being a "Z" - sometimes they just lump the whole end of the alphabet together, and it can be worse than the middle-letter lines."
that's why if I do the Cindy again I'm registering as Trek420 Quiglesswibbbly.
Q line was short.
BikerDar, I do this also only because I have such a long way to drive. Then, I have to put my life on the line, literally, to get around the hordes of slower, inexperienced riders this event attracts. I had a pick-up truck swerve intentionally because I was trying to get around the 3 and 4 abreast tea parties that stroll along chatting away, not a care in the world about traffic or other riders. While other centuries have this same problem, they don't have it to the extent the Cinderella does. Night before packet pick-up would solve a lot of this. Much smaller events do it very successfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by BikerDar
Well, I thought about leaving my house in Morgan Hill at 3 A.M. on my bike to get there early, you know, to avoid having to park and everything.
HA HA! Just kidding!- Starbucks doesn't even open until 4:30!:eek:
Really, though, is parking a problem?
That's a really valid point, but my take is just the opposite and maybe the minority, but I'm used to that.. One of the main reasons we start late...aside from hating to wait in line, is because we like to be the ones passing, instead of worrying about the riders who don't call out as they are going by. I have a big mouth (no surprise) and I'm very verbal about warning riders I'm coming up on them, so they know I'm there, and it really has helped avoid many possible collisions. It gives me an element of control that helps me feel safe.
I'm laughing because I'm the one who has been vocal about these chatting rolling tea parties. I know you don't know me, but I don't think anyone is going to accuse me of being shy (Veronica and yellow, you can stop snickering).
62 miles of repeatedly shouting on your left 3 and 4 times to the each group is very stressful and dangerous. The faster rider is the one who has to swerve out into traffic to get around them. Funny how the rules say "single file" but so many seem to think it doesn't apply to them. I'm the one who had a pickup truck intentionally swerve at her as I tried to pass one of these many group obstacles.
The organizers could do things to lessen the horde problems at registration and increase the safety of the riders on the route, but it would involve technology. I don't think anyone would complain about an extra few dollars to help pay for that. I've done this ride several times over 19 years and have not seen any significant change to adapt to the growth other than the starting location. Sooner or later, they will be forced to make further changes. I just hope it doesn't come only after the cost of someone's life.
Other than alleviating some problems at registration, how would technology improve things? I think the Cinderella, like many Bay Area rides, has just gotten too popular for its own good in recent years. Having only the one course on Cinderella, yet 2000+ riders, also makes the ride seem more crowded than other events, which often have multiple route options. Then of course Cinderella does specifically attract and invite new riders. But it is nice to see how much women's cycling has taken off over the decade or so that I've been riding.
I'm not doing the ride this year, but I think the Valley Spokesmen do a great job, and a great "service" to the cycling community, in continuing to put the ride on.
Online registration would allow spaced out starts. There are rides that are now giving timed starting slots to space people out. On line registration would allow you to sign up for a time and then someone just has to enforce the start. Runs have been doing this for years. Usually this is not too critical but, I agree, the 2,400 women all on one course in a highly urbanized setting is really a problem. They have a unique problem due to this.
Technology isn't involved with night before registration, but it would help alleviate the crowds that get bunched up at the start and maybe the huge lines at the rest stops. Somebody creative could come up with a way to get your "boarding pass" online the night before and anything to be picked up (like a patch) could be collected at the end of a ride (the way it used to be done at rides).
Support is for the most part pretty good but I think they really need to put a few course marshalls out at some of the high traffic intersections. Safety for the cyclists as well as goodwill with the community. I think that is why Party Pardee goes so well on those narrow roads.
Unfortunately, this is the only ride that I ever hear a significant volume of negative remarks (and from people not on this forum). It is really too bad.
It's very easy to stop the mailings from Active.com, tell them you don't want them. I use Active.com whenever possible, and do not receive any mailings.
Geez, BikerDar, this was comments on what I see as some unfortunate decisions made by the organizers that may sabotage the incredible efforts by the rest of the volunteers – notice that I differentiate between the decision-makers and the volunteers. If you’d read all the posts, you would know I am not coming. Also, that I am not slamming the ride itself. Just because a ride is popular doesn’t mean it is perfect now and for all eternity.
I think the club has done a tremendous job fostering women’s riding. The support on the route is incredible (except for course marshals at a few critical intersections). I have and still do encourage many women to participate. I also think the organizers need to get very creative and come up with solutions for problems that are created at this unique event. I haven’t ridden since 2004 but I remember the anger and frustration I saw on drivers’ faces at several points on the course and on the other bike path users when they funneled us onto one with a snaky-airport-line-like exit. I’m just musing on ways they could alleviate the traffic jams that are created in multiple places by what is essentially a mass start of 2,400 women, ways to reduce the frustration experienced by both the riders and the public.
BakerDar, calm down and quit taking these comments so personally. Do you attack everyone who looks for improvement? Survival is for the fittest and those who can adapt. I just think Cinderella is heading for an unhappy future because of the impact on the rest of the public and the particiapants need to take some responsibility for offering constructive suggestions, especially since it is a pipedream to get everyone to follow biking rules.
By the way, I use Active all the time and don’t get any emails to speak of. I can’t remember the last one. And costumes will show up at the Little Red Riding Hood.
And just about any AIDs multi-day ride! Sadiekate did I ever tell you all about the guy that rode CAR7 in drag, complete with pumps. He had his cleats attached to the pumps!Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
Ow, I don't do heels anyless there is a large amount of money involved. ;)
Guess I mailed too late; my reg check for Cinderella was returned.
If you know of anyone who got in, but can't ride, I would love to buy their entry from them! Please let me know...!!!
<As I continue to channel CorsairMac ;)>Quote:
Originally Posted by kkuff
Hi kkuff. :) Welcome to the forums. There's a thread in Open Topics called "Getting to know you". Drop on by and say hello. :)
Mel
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Originally Posted by SadieKate
I don't mean to come across defensive or bit**y, I just seemed to be seeing more complaints than compliments about the ride, so I wanted to jump in.
I don't think there's any perfect ride. I'm new to this site so I don't know anybody accept Cindysue. I have no idea where any other posters are coming from with their posts, so it's hard to tell constructive criticism from plain old whining and complaining, especially as I'm just skimming and maybe not catching all the little words.
happy riding