189 I can't believe I actually lost a pound since I haven't been able to ride and I've been night snacking. This week will be better.
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189 I can't believe I actually lost a pound since I haven't been able to ride and I've been night snacking. This week will be better.
136...
I'm a little late here - will get caught up now.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0
I'm late, too. I was traveling all day Friday and sick all afternoon Saturday (bad shrimp from Thursday), and just now had the courage to step on the scale.
231.4
I took my first Zumba class yesterday, and my first hatha yoga class in years. I also download the C25K app and will start that this morning. I'm already dressed for it.
I've been watching a reality TV series on Netflix called Heavy where these severely obese people face the psychological issues contributing to their obesity and food addictions, and they spend a month-to-six-months at a residential health spa facility working out five hours a day...
I can't help wondering if my health insurance would cover a month at a place like this over a gastric bypass surgery, which the head weight loss honcho doctor told me is my only real choice. Feh.
Roxy
Well fwiw, my sister is a nurse in a post-op unit of a hospital. She told me about a patient who had gastric bypass surgery and was readmitted to the hospital a few hours after being released, sick from eating french fries at McDonald's on the way home from the hospital. Any food-related psychological problems need to be dealt with before the surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by channlluv
And if that doctor is a surgeon, that might be the reason he says surgery is your only option.
"And if that doctor is a surgeon, that might be the reason he says surgery is your only option."
That's what I figured, too. A lot of people have shared that opinion.
I just left my mom, who had lapband surgery a couple of years ago. She still has serious food issues. I do not want to live like she has to now. Food is all she thinks about.
Roxy
Channlluv. Good for you for realizing there are psychological issues that are preventing you from reaching a healthy weight. If I were you, I would strongly consider getting some type of psychological counseling before considering any form of surgery. If your health insurance won't pay for a month at a facility (which is probably very expensive), maybe they would pay for individual or group counseling, or maybe a community center nearby offers low or no cost group counseling programs. I think the hardest step is identifying that there are psychological issues. Now that is behind you, so just research what is within your means to help you work through them.
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Originally Posted by channlluv
Channlluv, what else have you tried? Have you tried one of the support programs like OA or weight watchers?
I would not necessarily foreclose the possibility of bariatric surgery. It actually does work for many people, far more successfully than dieting. Maybe it is a last resort but it sure can be a good option.
Either way, therapy can be good, but it should be cognitive behavior therapy, which will give you tools to help you lose weight. http://www.apa.org/monitor/jan04/bringing.aspx
I have lost most of the weight I need to lose. I still have serious food issues. I think about food way too much. I likely will have to count calories forever. But I can live with that. I am learning to be content with my discontent. :)
Roxy, PM me if you want some guidance in choosing a therapist, etc.
Eating disorders (and yes, this includes obesity as well as anorexia and bulimia) are a somewhat controversial subject in my field and there are a lot of people who need this help!
Traveling all last week so I didn't weigh in until Saturday am (and then was too busy to get online all weekend!). 151 - no change this week.
I traveled most of last week too, at Interbike in Las Vegas. Weighed on Saturday. No change. I'm OK with that, considering the fabulous cocktails I consumed in Vegas. :o
After really slacking off for quite a while, I'm back to recording everything at Weight Watchers Online. This worked very well for me when I was meticulous about it, so I'm giving it another whirl.
Susan
I am really having luck using the WW Online Apps for my phone. Unfortunately I am one of those addicted to my smart phone types but fortunately weight watchers knows there are a lot of us. I find it nice to pull it out and see where I am for the day, calculate points. And the pounds are melting off.
Big non-scale victory for me, my husband who is not a huge complimenter looked at me as I walked into the kitchen Saturday and said "You're looking like you're slimming down."
I had a great food day yesterday, the first one in a long time. What I mean by great is, I stayed completely on track with WW, but even more important, I never felt hungry or deprived.
Thought I'd share a new recipe I made last night. I plugged it into the WW calculator and came up with 18 points for the total recipe, 5 points per serving when divided into 4 servings. Served with a side of steamed broccoli and fresh tomatoes with salt from my garden (both are "free" points), it was a hearty, satisfying meal.
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...nt-Kuku-233536
Note to WW points counters: I OMITTED the 2T butter that they direct you to use to coat the baking dish. Instead, I used about a teaspoon of olive oil, brushed on with a silicon pastry brush. Nothing stuck to the pan.
Other recipe notes:
I increased the baking time by about 10 minutes.
I used a 9.5inch rectangular glass baking dish, because I don't have 9.5 inch round deep dish pie dish.
I used fresh ground pepper, probably a bit more than the recipe calls for.
I ignored all the reviewers comments about modifying the recipe by adding spices or doubling this or that. I thought it came out well, and looked beautiful (It puffed up and browned a bit at the top, just as I expected)
Enjoy!
Susan
Oh dang. I'm up 3 pounds after our camping trip :eek:
I haven't gone anywhere since last week and I'm up 2 lbs. I think I'm dealing with a lot of "noise" related to hormones and water retention. Very annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by limewave
Susan - that sounds good and it's totally paleo. I think I'll try it this week! Thanks for sharing. :)
edited to say that it's not 'totally' paleo since cheese is generally a no-no...but the aged hard cheeses are usually acceptable in small quantities, so I'm OK with it.
Oh no - you've gone Paleo! :D
I had to stop reading nerfitness forums because I got tired of papelo this and paleo that. :p
Veronica
PS If it works for you - that's great!
Yeah, I'm more than a little tired of the connection between paleo and crossfit myself. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Veronica
I started this to drop some bloat for the end of a summer weight loss challenge, but I've stuck with it (over 4 weeks now) because I really like how I feel when eating this way. And I'm having a blast exploring new foods and new combinations, too!!
My next two challenges are to 1) learn to like avocado and 2) to learn to like egg yolks.
My husband lost weight (he didn't really need to) and was hungry all the time following the paleo diet for athletes, which allowed for more carbs before/during/after exercise. He has given it up and come back to a more balanced approach...
I would be miserable on that program
I eat a lot of protein myself, but I have issues with just not eating entire foods.
I personally love avocado and egg yolks and frequently eat them together. :D
Veronica
I thought I would be too. I certainly was the first time I tried it about 7 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by azfiddle
What is helping me this time around is not thinking about what I can't eat. I only think about what I CAN eat and so far, it's been very smooth sailing. I'm not saying it's easy - traveling last week was a serious B1TCH and I generally have to spend way more time in the kitchen than I'd normally choose, but I'm not craving anything. I don't miss anything. And I'm feeling fantastic and recovering from workouts in record time.
There have been quite a few changes in thought since The Paleo Diet for Athletes was written (even by Loren Cordain himself), so it's not nearly as rigid as that book paints it. I'd be miserable if I stuck to all those timelines and restrictions, too!
Yeah, but the theory is that the foods a paleo person doesn't eat are not meant to be eaten by our bodies in the first place. They will keep you alive, but on them, you will not thrive. Many feel that they aren't really foods as much as they are poison. I still eat plenty of carbs (sweet potatoes, fruit, veggies, etc), plenty of protein and plenty of fat... so I am eating all the types of foods my body needs. I even eat raw, full-fat dairy in small amounts, so I'm not a total militant type. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Veronica
But for example: Do you eat margarine? I'm guessing not, but just 25 years ago, margarine was the 'healthy' choice and people freaked out if you mentioned eating real butter.
The only reason that 'grains' are a HUGE food group (the bottom of the entire food pyramid) is that the food pyramid was built by the department of agriculture! Of course they want us to eat lots of grains! It's been a staple of the human diet since the rise of agriculture, but that doesn't mean that it's the best choice for us. It's cheap and easy to grow though...
What I find amusing is a conversation I had with my mom last night. My father has a rare form of kidney stones and because of it, he cannot eat any whole grains or legumes...two things that you'd think would be healthy right? Except that for him, they could kill him. Not unlike a person with celiac. I mean - not eating wheat? That's insane...it's the basis for our food system! Or I have a family friend who was allergic to all corn products. He passed away 10 years ago, but imagine how impossible it would be for him to eat these days. Corn is in EVERYTHING.
I don't know - it makes sense to me. If we were meant to eat grains, we'd have stomachs like ruminants.
Just so you all know, I am so NOT a paleo-pusher at all. I don't preach. I would rather not even talk about it in real life unless it's to find good recipes. Most people assume I'm on Atkins or that I'm a celiac, so I just let them think that. It's a lot easier than getting into philosophical arguments about my choices! :p
Oh, I think there is a lot to be said for the basis of the paleo revolution - I think my diet is fairly paleo. But if I want to eat ice cream - I'm going to. I had the opportunity to have some homemade Dutch Chocolate ice cream this weekend. It was AMAZING. And I think I run best if I've had Trader Joe's Cinnamon bread for breakfast - slathered with butter. :D Funny - I eat almost no corn now. I love it, but I've had trouble digesting it since I had a stomach bug when I was twenty.
I find the obsession and the pushing of the diet off putting. I really think it comes down to what works best for each individual. Of course I am probably a bit obsessive myself.
Veronica
After I've been 'strict' for a month or two, and after I reach my goal weight, I will definitely be having occasional non-paleo foods. So far, the only things I'm missing right now are hummus (and I'm planning on making baba ghanoush this weekend instead!) and pizza. I will have pizza again some day. And I will definitely eat my mom's stuffing at thanksgiving. ;)
Dutch chocolate ice cream sounds like a damn good way to splurge to me!
We're on the once a month pizza plan. I buy a Newman's thin crust pizza the first weekend of the month - love, love , love pizza! I don't have a specific ice cream plan. Mostly, I just don't buy any. :D
Pizza and ice cream were what made me "fat" last year. I'm down 14 pounds overall from this time last year and I've gained 4 pounds of muscle. And I love what I'm doing for workouts. I do wish it would cool off so I could run after work - 97 degrees at my house right at the moment. :eek:
Veronica
I, too am turned off by the "obsessiveness" of the paleo/crossfit people. A close friend's son went to a cross fit gym this summer, went on the diet (he was not really heavy) and became a "trainer." He is in college, extremely bright, but it seems like he's been "taken in" by this gym. Now my friend (she's the one who is the newer cyclist I've been enabling for about 2 years) is going to try out a class there today. I wonder what she will say when I talk to her tonight.
I too, don't eat a ton of grains, but I can't live without them.
I know this diet would work for me, but when I've needed to lose weight, it's always been a diet/exercise plan of my own creation. Generally, cutting carbs and changing my exercise up works.
The scale is finally moving in the right direction, so I'm hopeful for seeing a little 'motivation' by Friday. ;)
The most difficult part about being paleo is not giving up bread or grains. It's removing sugar, corn and soy from one's diet. Oh, and vegetable oils. Seriously, this stuff is in EVERYTHING. I cleared out our pantry in week one and that was pretty easy to do (most of it is boxed up for food donations). Week 2, I cleaned out the fridge - giving all yogurt to the chickens, saving all beer for the slugs next spring, and tossing a lot of half-finished bottles of salad dressing, condiments and asian sauces. ALL of these thing have either soy oil or sugar as their first ingredient. It's insane.
This week, I finally cleared out our 'spice' cabinet. Basically, I removed all the bad oils (corn, safflower, canola, etc) and every single asian sauce (fish sauce, oyster sauce, black bean sauce, tamari, soy sauce, etc). as they ALL contain either soy or sugar or gluten. I had no idea!
I always thought that we ate pretty home-made foods, but we do use a lot of prepared sauces and spices and flavorings and I'm amazed how much these things are processed. This way of eating is opening my eyes to all kinds of things that I'd never thought of before.
120.4! Moving in the right direction at last...
233.0
Hey, at least it's something! :)
153 this morning. Up a bit, but the good news is my "skinny" jeans fit just fine this morning. ;)
I'm not actually a part of the challenge, but I saw a number on the scale today that I don't think I've seen since I was 19 and swimming 5,000 - 6,000 yards a day.
I wish I had taken my training more seriously then. I don't know if I could have been a great swimmer - but I know I could have been better than I was. Oh well... the folly of youth. :D
Veronica
118.2
I am bummed. Up two pounds. I really have been vacillating around this weight for a while. I thought I'd broken out with last week's 116 weight but back up again. Not getting enough exercise in the cold and rain. I have to head south.
226.8
Definitely in the right direction, but is it just water weight?
I've been mixing up my exercise routines, too. It turns out that my Y has classes in the morning. With other people. Who knew? There's more there than just the pool and the sauna.
So this week I took two step aerobics classes, one hatha yoga class, one Zumba class, and I swam a half-mile twice (two different days) and I actually sat in the Jacuzzi for a bit and chatted with a really lovely internal medicine doctor who referred me to a holistic cardiologist and the Center for Integrative Medicine. I have an appointment in October.
Oh, and I started South Beach two days ago. I'm in Phase 1, of course. Nothing but veggies and lean means. I'm a pretty good cook, though, and so far it's painless. I quit buying bread over a week ago and have relegated my DD to brown rice tortillas for her school lunches. I think she's happy with it so far, too.
I also signed up for myfitnesspal.com. We'll see how that goes. Their forum people aren't as nice, some of them, as we are here. Not all, but there was enough snarkiness I don't think I'll be chatting much over there.
My goal is 200 by Christmas. I think I can do it.
I am going for a bike ride this morning on my 37-lb steel frame Palomar GT. This is the bike on which I lost that 20 pounds a couple of years back. I never lost anything on the road bike, I think because of the different posture and my belly getting in the way of pedaling a steady pace, and my hands kept going so numb I couldn't work my brakes.
I'm back on platform pedals and a more upright posture this morning, with friends who are training for an upcoming triathlon. We'll see how it goes.
Roxy
228 this morning.
I think I have an idea of what caused the blip last week and have corrected it. Missed 2 workouts earlier this week, but have completed then the last 2 days (and will today). At least I moved on and didn't let the missed ones get me down.
Hi, I'd like to join in, if it's OK to do so mid-challenge.
I'm now at 164, and my goal for the end of Oct. is 158.
Stayed the same.
My last double century of the year is tomorrow and I came down with a bladder infection 2 nights ago, which kept me up all night. Joy. The antibiotics I am on say they may make me dizzy and I should stay out of the sun, which is exactly what you want to hear when you're going to go ride your bike 200 miles. :rolleyes: So I have been having a mini pity party for the last couple of days and just not worrying about food or exercise. :o
Roxy - good for you! Sounds like you have a solid plan and are heading into it with real commitment. Keep it up. :)
148.0 - and the scale paused on 147.something before settling on 148. It looks like my body has finally figured out that this paleo thing is here to stay and it better start cooperating! :p
I think "pal" and "snarky" are two words that don't go together. But maybe that's just me.Quote:
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145.0 this morning. I was up to almost 147 a few days ago.
135.4....sigh
I think this maddening plateau is due for two reasons: too many carbs on non-ride days, and a decrease in my long rides. Recently assorted schedule problems have decreased my number of road rides. I still prefer the trails to the road, but if I don't have time to fit in the number of rides that I KNOW I need, I need to find some other way of getting in that cardio work.
I feel like a fat slug, though I know I am not any more...part of this is also my internal self image.
143. It's just a pound, but it's a pound in the right direction.
I haven't done a single thing remotely athletic since Sunday's Muddy Buddy, though. I gave myself permission to take September off/easy after a long hard year of PBP training. It feels incredibly decadent to do nearly nothing, but I think it's a good mental break, and my left knee sure needs the rest. I have a picnic -oriented bike ride (think: 2 five year olds along for the ride, and you'll get an idea of the pace ;) ) planned for tomorrow and a trail walk on Sunday.
Susan