Good idea. And I'll certainly pass along the Romin or Aliante if anyone is interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Good idea. And I'll certainly pass along the Romin or Aliante if anyone is interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Ok, so I just played with the SI turbomatic and wow is it more narrow. I compared it to my vesta and Affinity RXL and it is way smaller. I didn't even mount it. The sloping seat area makes it much to narrow for my 150 seat bones. The cutout is nice and the saddle is not too hard or too soft. It flexes in the middles but the way it slopes is really misleading with the alleged 153. I had ordered mine through Amazon and it came from Niagara cycle for $108. I think thats a decent deal considering the ebay prices. I am sending it back.
Gonna give the vesta a longer go!
I also ordered mine through Niagara (via Amazon...just <$114 w/shipping) and I am tempted to send it back without even trying it. My sit bones are 130mm, but I have my doubts that it's going to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by kermit
I really wish there were some sort of standardized way of measuring saddles. I'm sort of thinking that the Turbomatic might work better for someone with sit bones in the 120mm or narrower range, just based upon appearance.
I think I will still give it a try. At the very least I will be able to confirm whether or not it's a good fit for someone with my sit-bone width.
I wouldn't give up on it just yet, if you measure 130 it might work for you. I like the looks of it, I just need it BIGGER.
We sound like we're in the same position. What else have you tried? I tried the Vitesse and the sit bone width was perfect. It was the soft tissue that was killing me. Too much pressure on that and not enough on my sit bones (where i would prefer it to be). BTW, I ride a 143 Specialized, but sometimes that feels too narrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by kermit
Verdict: It is a REALLY nice saddle, and were it not so domed OR if I had sit-bones in the 120mm range I think it would be THE saddle.
I LOVE the shape...it is SO T-shaped. I definitely need that. I love that my inner-thigh/butt-cheek zone wasn't in the least bit rubbed or pressured. That was golden. But I felt like I was straddling the saddle, more than resting on it.
I think for someone who likes the Ruby/Jett 143, but wants something firmer or more T-shaped that this would be the perfect saddle for them. What I need is something as flat as the Specialized saddles, but with the footprint of the Turbomatic. If I could create the custom saddle, that would be it.
So, for anyone who wants it, it's yours for $100.
Thinking this may be a little too narrow for me. My sit bones seem to fall between a 143 and 155. Does it place a lot of pressure on the soft tissue? That's always my issue. Have you tried the Fizi:k Vitesse or Arione? If so, how does the width compare (to me, this was a perfect width)?
I've tried both the Arione Donna and the Vitesse. The Vitesse is probably OK, size-wise, but too squishy. I would have LOVED the Arione Donna, had it been wider. At 147 it was still a hair too narrow and probably not quite T-shaped enough for my weird butt. :p
If I'm not mistaken, I believe it is the Prologo Kappa Dea.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Hmmm...his is the Scratch Pro. Not sure how much difference there is between them. Though my hubby generally seems happy on pretty much any saddle he tries. Wish I were so lucky.
Ughhh...well after reading a few of the Turbo test rides, I'm not very optimistic about mine tomorrow. DH mounted the saddle and I will ride it in the morning. Forecast is calling for spotty showers, so we may have a rain-shortened ride...which might not be such a bad thing if this saddle starts causing problems for me. I will post my thoughts after I return from my ride.
Linda
nscrbug - you got a pic of the prologo? might be interested in giving it a go.
I can snap a few after I get back from riding this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by roguedog
@roguedog....I apologize for not getting pics of my Prologo saddle up for you yet. My camera hasn't been used in quite some time, so of course, when I went to turn it on...dead batteries! I'm charging it up overnight and will take some pics and post tomorrow.
Well...after riding 86 miles on my new SI Turbomatic Gel Flow this morning, my first impression is right on par with zoom-zoom. I absolutely LOVE the shape of this saddle. I felt total freedom of movement with my legs...no rubbing, no chafing, no interference from the saddle at all. But unfortunately, THAT was where the happiness ended. The saddle felt very firm, even more so than my Ruby...which is pretty minimal in and of itself. It also feels a smidge too narrow...which I expected, given the narrower dimensions. Could also be due to the domed surface...it just feels like there is less real estate for my sit bones to rest on. I guess I was hoping that my butt wouldn't notice the 2mm difference, but sadly, that was not the case. I also felt some pressure "up front" on my soft tissue...something I wasn't expecting given the very generous cut-out. Not really sure why I felt soft tissue pressure...perhaps because of the narrowness I may have been positioning myself on it in such a way that created pressure in that area. At any rate, the saddle is no longer on my bike...BUT did find its way onto DH's bike. :rolleyes: He figures he'll give it a try and see if it works for him if it will save me the hassle of sending it back.
So...it's back to my Ruby, once again. I am now thinking about trying the "newer" style of Ruby. I have an older one...with that goofy plastic silver tab on the tip of the nose. I see that the newer ones did away with that. Can anyone comment on any other differences there may be between the older vs. newer Ruby?
Linda
Selle San Marco - Aspide Glamour K Arrowhead Gelaround. what are everyone's thoughts on this saddle?? I liked the SI Turbomatic but I need a wider T-shaped saddle for 130 mm sit bones.
I just ordered a Glamour Arrowhead (not the Gelaround). I will hopefully be able to get a ride or two in before next weekend. I'd REALLY love to have a better option than my Ruby for my ride across the state in a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahMN
Where did you order the Glamour from? And what is the difference between the Arrowhead and Gelaround? Actually, I've never even seen the Gelaround...is it new?Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Hey nscrbug, there is a difference between the old ruby and the new ruby. The plastic tabs are gone and there is a little more gel padding. I just didn't enjoy the wide nose in the 155 that caused chafing. I have also tried the glamour aspide K arrowhead and it is really comfy in the seat with that nice hammock effect. I did ride one for a while and it is a nice saddle.
@nscrbug - no worries. Just being vain since I saw pix of a white one w/ aqua coloring and it wouldn't look nice on the red bike :/. I suppose i ought to be practical too and ask for measurements which are the more important data.
@Sarah - "Selle San Marco - Aspide Glamour K Arrowhead Gelaround" :eek::eek: Heck.. what is it? ROYALTY? Sheesh.. That rolls off the tongue. I couldn't find pix of this either.
I've always thought we ought to have a forum saddle trade program instead of all of us constantly buying saddles all the time. But I suppose in threads like this it's sorta becoming one organically.
Have you guys tried Selle An Atomica? I've been using them for years on all my bikes. The cons are they're heavy, and can stretch, especially in hot and humid. That said, I've had one of mine since 2007, and I'm guessing it has upwards of 8,000 miles on it. It's comfy, so I don't mind the weight. I think my sitbones are around 145mm c-c.
I found the Glamour Arrowhead on eBay, actually (for <$100). I really wanted white, since I'll be doing a century in Death Valley in Oct. and my hubby warned me that in just minutes off of the bike a black saddle will become VERY hot. That knowledge factored in my decision to get white road shoes, as well--last month when we were in the 90s my feet in black shoes felt like they were being baked.Quote:
Originally Posted by nscrbug
I think the Gelaround is discontinued, but not sure...I think maybe it's more cushioned...?
I found some photos of the Aspide Glamour (non-arrowhead) that show the shape in profile well...I have high hopes. Doesn't look very domed at all (at least far less so than the Turbomatic):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/...6bd39d78_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/...611e9085_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/...55458abc_z.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/...975ed401_z.jpg
Kirsten, the Glamour Aspide is exceedingly flat. I can't speak for the Arrowhead versions though... I loved its flatness, just not its super firmness. My Selle Italia SLR Lady Gel Flow is nearly as flat, almost the same shape, but just a tad more padded.
I'll try to get a picture of them side-by-side up...
I'm hoping the firmness doesn't bother me...or that I will adapt. I did 100 miles on the Ruby with 0 sit-bone discomfort, and that's quite a bit firmer than the Jett. I didn't really notice much difference in feel. I probably have enough padding of my own to overcome a harder saddle. :p
Sounds like the Glamour Aspide might be the perfect saddle then! I've got my fingers crossed for luck for you :)
I have my toes crossed, too! :D
Just switched my Jett to the Aspide Glamour and am looking forward to riding on it tomorrow. The Jett has been causing me to get saddle sores on my right thigh/inner buttock area. i'd happily trade less padding for less saddle sores!
Well, interestingly enough...my DH put the SI Turbomatic Gel Flow on HIS bike last night and today we did a 102 mile ride. His verdict - he likes it! Imagine that?!? I figured it to be too wide for him, since he was coming off of riding on a Specialized Toupe 143 since last year. Anyways...he commented on how much more "narrow" it felt where his inner thighs meet the saddle (gee...sound familiar? I think we all agreed on how T-shaped this saddle is). I told him since he likes it so much, he just inherited it. :D Now I don't have to hassle with sending it back. Good for me. :cool:
Linda
My hubby sat on it while it was on my bike...he didn't really like the overall shape of it. He tends to like flatter saddles, too. He doesn't like a super firm saddle, either. The Turbomatic is pretty firm. It doesn't look it, but it's definitely firmer than the Ruby.
Curious....what size Jett are you riding? Curious to see how it will compare to the Aspide.Quote:
Originally Posted by buffybike
Y'know, I noticed how firm the Turbomatic was when I first sat on it, coming from a Jett, for sure. But there really wasn't an adjustment or break-in period at all. My first ride on it was 56 miles and I had no sitbone soreness. I haven't done a long ride on it yet (how this summer's gone for me :() but I've got enough miles on it that I'm sure when I do it won't be an issue.
Yeah, I had that same experience going from Jett to Ruby. Even after a century my sit bones didn't bother me.
zoom-zoom, why switch from the Jett or the Ruby? I am curious. I have been using the Jett 155 but it is almost too soft, I think. A bit of soft tissue "burn" at the end of a ride. No chafing but I don't think my sit bones are supported well enough.
The Ruby/Jett 155 is wide enough, but not T-shaped enough...it rubs my inner-thigh/cheek zone and pushes me too far forward on the saddle.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahMN
I think that may be my problem as well with the Jett 155. I wait to hear your review of the SSM Aspide.
Too wedge-shaped was my issue with the Jett too, also the cut-out was the wrong shape for me.
What size Jett were you riding?Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
How wide is the Turbomatic? Not their measurements, but the actual surface area measurement? Trying to see if this is wide enough for me, since I'm on a 143 now.
SI Turbomatic is very domed. 153mm width. I think it seems more narrow due to being very domed. Way too narrow for my 130mm sit bones.
Yeah, I'd say it feels almost narrower than the 143 Jett. I think if someone had 120mm sit bones or narrower that it might be a good fit. I rode it again tonite with my tri shorts...that was especially uncomfortable. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahMN