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Originally Posted by KnottedYet
Yes, great ideas!
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Originally Posted by KnottedYet
Yes, great ideas!
Glad to see this is moving forward, guyz & galz. Have fun on your ride Sunday.....hope you get some of the route nailed down. Sounds like fun "work." :) Salsa, Knotted, Mimi, & East Hill (& others farther down the thread) -- thank you very much for your help on this. I wish I were closer to help out, too (...but 1000 miles is a bit hard to breach :rolleyes: ). I'm not totally positive that I'll be able to come up to see the fruition of all your efforts, but I'm sure going to try.
Now Zen --- I must ask -- what have you got against this ride? Why all the negativity? The people who benefit are the riders! Sure, the companies who pitch in the dollars to make it happen get advertising, but they can pay for advertising on ugly billboards too. But instead, they are choosing to invest those same dollars into something that people will actually enjoy looking at -- at bunch of fun ladies on bikes, dressed to the nines, who (yes!) ARE healthy and trying to raise money for others who aren't. Think of the charity organizations that have been mentioned already that could REALLY benefit. That alone should make anyone jump on board. I wish you would. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by zencentury
Thanks, all!
~BikeMomma :)
Thanks for the good wishes, BikeMomma.
I would like to ask a favor--if you want to discuss with Zen how she feels about this ride, could you all please do it on a separate thread, or through PMs, or some other mode that will let those of us who want to plan this ride continue to do so?
I would so appreciate it if this thread could stay focused on its initial purpose-- the planning of a ride for those of us who live here (or live elsewhere but would come here for the ride) and are interested in developing this ride. Thanks.
I agree, point taken. Just trying to moderate the thread, I guess (since I introduced it). Zen, please PM myself or El Hombre if you would like to continue your questioning. Let's keep this thread on a forward note.Quote:
Originally Posted by salsabike
Let the planning continue....:)
~BikeMomma
Sounds as if that might be an excellent idea. I'll get back with you later on about that so that we can make it work :) .Quote:
Originally Posted by mimitabby
East Hill
<Knot raises her hand> Can someone give me a landmark I can mapquest? Thanks!
oh fooey.. this weekend my cousin is arriving at my house at 9am!
(that's why i originally said Saturday.... sigh...)
Mimi is not able to attend.
Ah fooey...I'll still try...Quote:
Originally Posted by mimitabby
East Hill
When I know they are committed to giving money to charities I won't have a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by BikeMomma
As it stands I see women being used to make it look like this company is doing something for the greater good and using a women's forum for the purpose. Until I know that someone will benefit, I stand fast. You can ride whenever you want and benefit yourself, you don't need someone to organize a ride.
If he wants to organize, he can create a yahoo or google users group.
Don't know "the man". he's set to "ignore'Quote:
Originally Posted by BikeMomma
I'm down in Portland, not too far from you as the crow flies. Would love to do a ride like this. The cinderella was a hoot this year. I'd be willing to help out somehow. Gonna be up in that area in Oct for a TE dinner. Those of you who will be at both can maybe fill me in when I see you. :)
Side note: I'd really like to see a woman's ride do a daughter/girl ride-along kind of thing to encourage young ladies to cycle and be part of a good thing like this. Not sure how so it's safe for them... maybe their own very short route with some bike angel volunteers and then back to the start for some bike games/information for young riders while the main pack is out on the streets? Just a thought. It might be a little too much for a first ride like this.
How about supporting some of the regional/national children's summer camp programs such as:
Camp Good Times West for pediatric cancer patients and their siblings
Camp Erin that help children and teens cope with the loss of a loved one
And because I have a personal interest:
Camp Phoenix for pediatric burn survivors which is one of many camps sponsored by the IAFF Burn Foundation
I imagine it could be like the short ride that was added a couple of years ago at Bridge Pedal. How fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrayted
At this point, I don't know what I can contribute, but I would like to do the ride this Sunday. Also, I hope you don't mind, but I let it be known to some other cyclist that a women-only ride was in the works. A couple of people have expressed interest but I haven't heard back about them joining us this Sunday.
Cool, thanks! The more, the merrier:cool: Just remember, this sundays ride is CO-ED (:eek:) on the CT. It will be VERY laid back ie, not a race. I have a hang-over scheduled that morning. More of a meet and greet type ride to get the ball rolling. Men interested in joining the Knights of the Rotund Table are more than welcome:DQuote:
Originally Posted by sgtiger
Now I have to figure out where all my cold weather gear is..
Knights of the Rotund Table will be the guys behind the scenes organizing everything for the Rapunzel riders.....I told Dan that was a fun name for the guys helping out on support (his idea). Cute, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Hombre
Don't know if this will help out for ideas, but here is the Cinderella Classic's website: Cinderella Classic (w/'08 link!). As you can see, they post lots of info, pics, etc. Dan, I'm pretty sure you said you have a website started for the Rapunzel, right? Last year, they added a full-century route for the first time with 2000+ feet more climbing, and I hear it was a great success (I did the metric). But, for a first year ride, I'm not sure you guys want to try a 2nd route for the adults. I agree, that mother-daughter route sounds like a good idea, if you can find a route the girls can manage. Isn't it sorta hilly there?
Hope you have a good turnout for the ride Sunday. Take care of that future hangover, Dan. :p
~BikeMomma
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Originally Posted by Xrayted
Fill me in too! It's too far north for me to drive (again). I was up in Skagit County 3 weekends ago doing the MS 150 with my daughter. Great weekend and ride by the way! But I am doing a local ride this weekend with hubby.
Also, I love the daughter/girl ride suggestion Xrayted! I'm all for that!
Ok, report Sunday night or Monday morning!
Have fun . . . oh and take a few pictures for us!
Chance of rain stands at 80%. Now I still have to find the fender and change tires.. So much for summer:(
All right, so update and reminder:
Sunday, October 1st.
10.00 am at the start of the Centennial Trail in Snohomish.
Driving instructions to the CT
East Hill will do her best to be there.
East Hill
I won't be there. I have a family thing to do.
El Hombre,
Thank-you for a most enjoyable ride. I hope that I was able to contribute something even in some small way. Like I mentioned before, I don't know what I can offer. I don't have the marketable skills required in making this happen, but I would definitely like to help out in anyway I can. Also, Mr. KiltTiger may have some useful contacts for you, especially regarding the Naval base.
Side note: I'm kinda slow so it took me awhile 'til I got your handle. I was halfway home when I was thinking I got to meet "the man," then... well, you can guess the rest. Hehehe. Clever! :D :cool: :p
You were braver than I to go out today. Well, not braver, because I did get out in the rain, but driving all the way to Snohomish was not my idea of a good time!
Who else managed to straggle up there?
East Hill
It was just El Hombre and I. And I'm definitely not braver, I live on the outskirts of Bothell just bordering Mill Creek. So for me it was a short 15 min. drive. Normally I would just ride out there, but I'm still trying to get over some lung funkiness that I've had. I don't think I'd have gone if I had to brave traffic through Seattle. Why is it with as much rain as the PNW gets, drivers act like they're learning how to drive in wet weather all over again? :eek: :(
I think it has to do with the slickness of the roads after a good rain, when all the oil comes to the surface. That's why I didn't want to drive up there...it's all right once it's been raining steadily for a week or so, because the oil's been washed off the roads.
East Hill
That was fun. Thanks for the ideas. I haven't ridden in the rain since BikeMomma and I's hammerfest with the Sierra Nevada boy and the gimp gang from Cali. At least there was no 45 mph decent in a downpour with a nice crosswind blowing us into oncoming traffic:DQuote:
Originally Posted by sgtiger
WARNING: GRAPHIC photo of the this rides carnage :eek:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...ePics004-1.jpg
all that slug bits and goo got all over the bike. I'm not even gonna look up under the fender. After about a mile I gave up trying to avoid mowing them down.
Thanks for the idea about the Naval base! Now what we need to do is come up with a couple of routes in the area by November 1st. Does anyone know of any good 35-70 miles loops in the Everett-Sno area?
Maybe in two weeks we can do another ride. This time ending at McMenamins in Mill Creek. That way we can all warm up with a tasty adult beverage.
So...what's the Naval Base connection?
Slug goo will either really help your traction or...come to think of it..huh. OK. Never mind.
I may be able to get some Everett-Snohomish route suggestions from someone, but it'll take a couple of weeks, I think.
Well, my simple brain forgot that we're gonna need a TON of parking and room for this and then I remembered that the Cinderella uses a .mil base for it's operation. Sgtiger mentioned that Boy in a Kilt might have access to Everett Naval and that they often rent out mess halls etc to the public. I've been scoping out routes up around Snohomish and the CT but maybe we should be lookng around Everett? Maybe somewhere between the two?Quote:
Originally Posted by salsabike
I've done a modified version of this route. I like the parts through Snohomish and the Everett Marina (takes you past the Naval Base). But the last part is though the Interurban Trail. Yuck! Parts of the trail is essentially sidewalk and there's some awkward manuvering through traffic and the mall parking lot.
The only drawback for many is that it's not very hilly. I'm sure that many will want something a bit hillier.[Not me BTW, I'm the BIGGEST hill wimp.] Of course, the part through Snohomish could be rerouted to the hillier roads. Maybe for the longer route?
Anyhow, I got the cue sheet off the Seattle Bicycle Touring Club website. The last links on the website list some great resources for route ideas. Don't forget the Rondonneur's website for routes too.
Used to, this year they used the county fairgrounds. Cinderella never said why the mil base did not renew the agreement and it was down to the last minute. Maybe they feared all us militant women on bicycles would be a security threat. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Hombre
omigoodness. people rode! SGTIGER, you're amazing!
I sat in my warm dry little house and drank tea with Raleighdon's cousin.
but i rode today... on the cleaned roads.
Mimitabby, don't be too impressed we didn't ride for very long. I think just under an hour and the Centennial Trail is in great condition. Well, other than the squished slugs. Icky!
It was wet but I was ready for it. I had on layers of wool and rain gear of course. Some of the rain did get through, but the layers of wool kept me nice and toasty. I should have changed out of my wet shoes and socks afterward, because they felt sloshy on the drive home. But the toes were warm nonetheless. Maybe some shoe covers are in order. :rolleyes: Know of any good ones?
Sugoi ones are great!! (neoprene ones like gator skins are nice too, toasty, but they don't keep your feet dry). Of course NO shoe cover will keep your feet dry unless you can seal up around the cleat on the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtiger
Thanks, Eden! I'll give those a try. I'm not expecting my feet to stay bone dry, but not having water slosh around would be most excellent.
These are the Sugoi booties. I also use them and like them much better than neoprenes. They keep you reasonably dry for a long time.
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=15587
Yup - those are the ones I have and I love them
I had my Carnac covers on. Pretty much any neoprene covers work wonders but your feet will still get wet. I drilled a couple of extra holes in the bottom of my cleats to let water out. I also throw in a hand warmer or two into them if it's really cold:DQuote:
Originally Posted by sgtiger
hmmmmm have you been up here for a winter yet? You'll probably want some booties that keep your feet dry (at least for a while) once it starts getting colder and raining. I've sealed around my cleats with silicon sealer and it works for a while (but I wear mt bike shoes in the winter too, so its a little easier to seal up around the cleat). Hand/toe warmers do work wonders if you can fit them in your shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Hombre
I was here for last winter. 6 days of no power..:mad: I didn't ride much last winter, I was too busy shooting. This winter I'm going to ride. I'm going to invest in some serious winter boots. I had a pair of Sidi winter boots that I liked but somehow, my feet grew so I need a new pair. I'll have to get a pair of those covers, they look pretty snazzy. Costco has deals on handwarmers about this time of year. I'm SERIOUSLY tempted to get a new Cross bike but I think SWMBO might object..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eden
Costco has the handwarmers now - I've got my box :D :D :D at $15 for 40 pairs its a deal that can't be beat. If my feet weren't too small I'd be all over a pair of those winter boots - but no one makes them in a 37....... I make do with mt bike shoes, storm socks, wool socks and shoe covers. Between the storm socks and the Sugoi booties I can actually stay pretty dry.
Put your old Sidi's up on Craig's list right about now and I'll bet they'll go in a minute.