OT - South Beach Diet

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

I'm curious. Why would soy milk be off limits?

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It isn't. Though you should be careful because sometimes it is sweetened. Since I've started reading labels I've been appalled at some of the things sugar is added to.

Next time you are at the store, go over to the canned goods and read some ingredient lists. Many brands add sugar to BEANS. Why in the world do we need sugar in our red beans?

No wonder people are diabetic.

MP had it on her list. I was guessing about the sugar but was wondering where she had seen soy milk as off limits.

MP - have you tried the WW Core program? A few of the women in my meeting use it when they need a kick start.

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Originally Posted by maillotpois

Well, now I am intrigued. While I am on the disabled list, one goal is to get ride of the last 15 pounds I need to lose. Maybe this would be a helpful jump start, especially since I am not doing 8 hours rides right now, but 1 - 2 hour a day less intensive efforts. However, I generally can't stand diets that make certain foods "bad". That's why I lean towards Weight Watchers - where you can basically have anything, in moderation.

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as most others have said... south beach is a VERY healthy way of eating! yes... you are restricted from eating breads and such the first 2 weeks (phase 1).... but you can eat carbs... in the form of vegetables!!!!!

phase 2 you get to add back some more stuff.... but they teach you to eat the low glycemic... healthy stuff!!!!

phase 3 is your every day... normal.... healthy eating! geez... i LIVE on oatmeal... but it's not the sugary quick cook packaged stuff!!!!

plus you don't count points.... you don't pay to go to meetings or buy special foods (you basically shop the outer, healthy aisles and stay away from prepared foods....

i give southbeach 2 thumbs up!

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

MP had it on her list. I was guessing about the sugar but was wondering where she had seen soy milk as off limits.

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I was just listing everything I generally couldn't live without. Some of it I suspected may be off limits. Other stuff, like soy milk and carrots, I just included for completeness.

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Originally Posted by maillotpois

Well, now I am intrigued. While I am on the disabled list, one goal is to get ride of the last 15 pounds I need to lose. Maybe this would be a helpful jump start, especially since I am not doing 8 hours rides right now, but 1 - 2 hour a day less intensive efforts. However, I generally can't stand diets that make certain foods "bad". That's why I lean towards Weight Watchers - where you can basically have anything, in moderation.

Does SBD eliminate permanently any of the following foods (I am okay with a week or so of cutting them out, but not for forever):

Wine
Oatmeal
Coffee (:eek: )
Soy milk
Pasta (whole wheat or not)
Wheat bread
Cereals (not lucky charms, but things like Shredded wheat, Kashi, etc.)
Carrots
Potatoes
Nuts

These are things I would not choose to live without (again, in moderation. well, except for coffee) and seem like targets in a lot of diets.

Thanks.

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potatoes are pretty much the only "bad" thing... cuz they have a high glycemic index... they are definitely a NO NO during phases one and two... very limited if you are following the ruled strictly.. in phase 3

i forget some of the phases... but

Wine - RED is ok in phase 2 I THINK
Oatmeal - as long as it's not the sugary processed kind
Coffee (:eek: ) OK in ALL phases
Soy milk OK all phased (light is preferred, of course)
Pasta (whole wheat or not) whole wheat phases 2 & 3 (less in 2 than 3 though)
Wheat bread whole wheat phases 2 & 3 (less in 2 than 3 though)
Cereals (not lucky charms, but things like Shredded wheat, Kashi, etc.) heathy kinds like kashi.. yes... 2 & 3... again... more limited in 2.. you lose more weight the less you eat in phase 2
Carrots - ok but have a high glycemic index
Potatoes
Nuts - dry roasted in all phases!

Oddly, carrots were initially discouraged as having too high a glycemic load to be worth it. He's kinda loosened up some things, esp on dairy. If you buy the book, make sure you get a later edition or check the web for current food lists.

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

I'm curious. Why would soy milk be off limits?

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when the diet first came out... NO milk in phase 1 except unflavored plain yogurt!

they added it back in along the way... along with adding carrots, tomatoes and some other healthy stuff!

i don't know if anyone has mentioned.. this diet was originally made up for HEART patients! not as a weight loss diet! that's a side effect of eating healthy for your heart!

i TRY to eat this way... do good all week (and i eat a LOT of oatmeal!) and my cholesterol is WAY low... (and the good one is way high!) all my bloodwork (except sodium :rolleyes: ) came back excellent!!!!!!!

my body fat (even though i carry more pounds than I"M happy with cuz i've been doing too much cheating on weekends)... is low... about 17%... and that's cuz i normally eat healthy!

it really is a good way of eating (diet has a bad connotation... south beach is more than a diet.. it's a way of life.. a way of eating!)

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Originally Posted by SouthernBelle

Oddly, carrots were initially discouraged as having too high a glycemic load to be worth it. He's kinda loosened up some things, esp on dairy. If you by the book, make sure you get a later edition or check the web for current food lists.

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ya... i was upset i couldn't have carrots when i started this.... i was glad they added them back in.. cuz i LOVE to eat carrots! i actually love most veggies!

anyone more up to date (i haven't checked web sites in a while.. cuz i pretty much know what i can and can't eat by now!) but did he by any chance ever add corn back in? i LOVE LOVE LOVE corn... and REALLY miss it... but it's another of those high glycemic ones!

i love sweet potatoes.. high calorie.. but SO healthy! i eat them with sugar free syrup and a bit of low fat whipped topping! YUM!

and i have a terrific muffin recipe using kashi cereal that i can find and post inf anyone wants it... it's a phase... hmmmmm 3 i think? cuz of the honey? i need to make me a batch... i haven't had them for a while!!!!