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Originally Posted by tprevost
Right now the start is still Cedar Grove and yes Nine may have to bring the triple. But then again it maybe hot and I elect to keep the route flat. Will decide next week by Thurs.
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Originally Posted by tprevost
Right now the start is still Cedar Grove and yes Nine may have to bring the triple. But then again it maybe hot and I elect to keep the route flat. Will decide next week by Thurs.
Pam, I was just on Culver today and noticed there were bike route detour signs noting Jeffrey. Just an fyi...
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Originally Posted by bcipam
Yeah I know there maybe a problem but I can work it out. I'll try and drive or ride the route later this week.
50 miles, 16-18 mph and only very brief stops is most likely going to be beyond my capacity right now, especially if you factor in the heat. I think I'll stick to my 2, 2.5 hour early morning workouts on the hills and trails around downtown for now -- the only thing unsatisfying about that challenge right now is the lack of company. I'd like to catch up with y'all sometime next fall, when hopefully I'll have built up my endurance and speed a bit more.
I didn't mean to imply the ride would average 16-18 mph. Pam will decide on and set the pace. I just want to make sure I don't slow down the group. In any event, my tentative plans put me on Catalina for that weekend so don't listen to me!!
Nina
*gasp* you don't want to slow down the group.... and you ride 16-18 mph! double *gasp*Quote:
Originally Posted by Nina R. Messina
i surely don't ride 16-18 mph! and ESPECIALLY not with hills involved!
iffen you's all are riding 16-18 mph... you are WAY too fast for me! i go the distance... but i go slowly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to back out of this ride, darn it! I'll have to join you ladies next time.
Who said the pace was 16 - 18 mph (I think Nina may have mention that pace but the hills will slow her down)????? The pace is going to be casual - this is a training ride. The distance will be around 50 miles but will include some hills. I am a slow hill climbing. Most likely I'll be lucky to hit 5 mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by chartman64
Anyway, this isn't an event ride. This is a slow training ride meant to get us out on the saddle for at least 4 hours and to do some distance. The plan is to have regular breaks although nothing like the long lunch break we had last ride. I am a firm believer of frequent quick stops and not a few long ones. I like to keep my legs warmed up.
Because there will be alot of climbing, regrouping at the top of hills and bottom of hills will be part of the stops/breaks.
And we will ride to everyone's level as long as you can make around 50 miles. Don't stress out about not keeping up.
My friend Jess (of the OC Rebels) is helping me come up with a nice course. It will include Newport Coast - not a hard hill, just long. If you can do NC, then anything on CB will be easy.
I can only go fast on flats!! My speed on hills is my walking speed. That'll slow down any group!!
Nina
see... then you still have something over me.... i'm not fast on hills.... i do get passed by MOST people... however i do occasionally pass a couple of folks...
however... i'm not even fast on downhills or flats! yes... i'm faster going down than up! not saying that! but i still get passed on downhills.. and flats.. forget it... i get passed by the majority of people!
what i have (and have said before) is endurance... so i just keep going (i've gotta find me an energizer bunny gif! lol!)
i was looking at my bikejournal log... and my yearly average for my rides so far is only 13.66! yep... that's it! so see! i told you i was slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have over 3000 miles... but lots of hours on the bike doing those miles!
Cali and Nina:
I look at it this way we all have certain gifts. Cali, clearly yours is endurance and stamina. I can't and won't even think about doing some of the rides you do. It makes me tired thinking of them.
Nina is definitely fast on flats. I am too. My gift is having very large, very powerful, strong legs. I can also push a big gear in wind. But put me on a hill.... well, the big parachute sail comes out and I drop way behind. Now, I can climb the hill but my size and weight keeps me behind the pack but once I crest that hill I can usually make up the deficient. I'm not afraid of the downhills on a road bike - mountain biking has helped me over that fear.
That's why group riding is interesting. I consider it to be an "ebb and flow" people go forward, people drop back but eventually you usually catch up and regroup. Signals lights are a great equalizer.
Jess is definitely coming up with an interesting although challenging ride for us. It may be shorter than 50 miles (I'll cut it short if it gets too hot) but will definitely be challenging. Nina bring the triple although none of the hills are as steep as Shady Ridge, just long. Newport Coast is about a mile. Jess is also going to take us up off the busy, narrow part of PCH so we have to climb Dover, not a bad hill. The toughest hill will actually be the first - Lemon Heights. It is very short - just several 100 feet but crests at 10% or so, then a nice rolly road through beautiful 1,000,000+ homes and up onto Skyline, another doable but long hill with some switchbacks corners at about 10%.
Hills are not my favorite thing but they are good for me. Help burn off all those calories, make me lose weight so someday I can climb like Cali!
Nina don't be scared off - its all doable.
AND CALI - the reason your average is onl;y 13 is all the hills and elevation you do. Geez... considering 13 is awesome!!!!!!
Okay, everyone who is on the fence!!!! Cut it out!!!! :p Pam is an excellent leader and this is not going to be a race; cause, believe me - if it was... ya'll could have a long lunch and I'd still be catching up! Besides, we have our ladies who are strong on the flats/downhills, those who rock on the uphills, and ME, who isn't good an anything yet! :p But darned it, I'm trying and hopefully it will eventually pay off!
Caligurl and Chartman64.... please come :p it will be so great to have you there! Heck, if I can keep up, anyone can!!!
Tracy
ps. Brandy, I'm seriously bummed that you can't come! When can you and Tiff come ride the wine country loop???
it all depends on what's up with hubby's neck and what we have on tap for next weekend! (he's not even riding the grand tour tomorrow and he's already paid :( ) and of course... the weekend after the 1st is 3 harbors... not sure he will want to drive 3 weekends in a row..... we'll see!
Cali (and hubby) come - it will be a friendly easy ride. Just something to stretch out your legs. And its not that far to OC maybe an hour, hour and an half, not too bad.... :o
well see! it's not the getting there that is the problem... it's the getting home! traffic pics up by then.. and we've NEVER been on the 91 on the other side of green valley without HORRIBLE traffic!
with the drive to malibu tomorrow.... and then back to ventura in two weeks... he may not want to drive "down the hill" next weekend! plus gas gets spendy on all those trips!