Ranting about stupid dog ownership

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Originally Posted by Biciclista

Smilingcat, I disagree with you.
I have a perfect forever pet sitting on my lap right now.

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LOL... should have realized. Some do have a prefect forever pet.

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Originally Posted by Dogmama

When she took Joey back, the poor pup freaked out (no kidding!!) and it supposedly took three people to hold this dog down (25 pounds) to give him a sedative.

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Has anyone checked to see if Joey is still considered adoptable? Man, I'm upset because most Humane Societies are over burdened and if a dog freaked out like this he would be put down as not-adoptable. Poor guy.

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Originally Posted by MM_QFC!

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Please note: this isn't anti-dog bias; it's more a rant against people who do not care for, nor keep their dogs under control as our communal laws require. I agree with Mimi on this issue. Leash laws aren't just for some dogs; they're meant for all to avoid unnecessary incidents and unsafe situations.!

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What issue? Did I miss something? No one in this thread has advocated allowing dogs to run loose. I doubt if you are accomplishing much by posting about it here.

LOL Anti dog bias? give me a break! No, you missed my point. My point, which i thought was strengthened by the pomeranian anecdote, was that ALL LIVING ANIMALS can be unpredictable, no matter HOW SWEET they are.
and the bigger the animal the more damage they can inflict. Particularly when they have been bred for JAW STRENGTH and not letting go.
I haven't ever heard of a house cat or a Pomeranian ripping someone's ears off.

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Originally Posted by mickchick

I wasn't going to get into this but the anti-dog bias is too much.

Umm, I've been bitten by dogs and cats. First and foremost, cat bites are puncture wounds and USUALLY get infected. The cat that bit me was my sister's cat. The thing attached itself to my hand (the first time it bit me) and I had to whack it against the wall to get it off of me. Ended up in the ER and on antibiotics. The same cat bit me another time, same hand---ER and antibiotics again. Both occasions, my hand swelled up and was painful immediately after being bitten. The reason both times? The cat was pissed off that there was another cat in the house. I did nothing to provoke it.

A neighborhood dog attacked my dog and the attacking dog bit me twice on my leg. The dog had aggression issues and his owner did not have him under control. I probably provoked him by kicking him to get him off of my dog, but rather me injured than my pup. Again, ER and antibiotics. The bites did not get hot or as painful as the cat bites, perhaps because of the location of the bites (calf vs. hand).

So you see, cats and dogs can both bite and hurt humans. Even cats that are "pets."

And no, I am not anti-cat. Before my husband's allergies precluded cat ownership, I had several cats whom I loved.

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I have yet to meet a sweet Pomeranian.

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Originally Posted by Biciclista

LOL Anti dog bias? give me a break! No, you missed my point. My point, which i thought was strengthened by the pomeranian anecdote, was that ALL LIVING ANIMALS can be unpredictable, no matter HOW SWEET they are.
and the bigger the animal the more damage they can inflict. Particularly when they have been bred for JAW STRENGTH and not letting go.
I haven't ever heard of a house cat or a Pomeranian ripping someone's ears off.

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Headdesk.

Here we go again. Why do you perpetuate with such overt hostility?

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Originally Posted by Biciclista

the bigger the animal the more damage they can inflict. Particularly when they have been bred for JAW STRENGTH and not letting go.
I haven't ever heard of a house cat or a Pomeranian ripping someone's ears off.

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Locking jaws is a major myth. Pits are determined, yes. "I've got the bone, now I'm keeping the bone" That trait is why they make excellent search and rescue dogs; they are strong, agile, determined and very "pro human" :)

www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm

The problem with pits often is owners who want to be seen as the biggest baddest person on the block. :mad: Properly trained and socialized they are great dogs.

This just proves mutts rule! You get the best traits of all their pedigree. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by PamNY

What issue? Did I miss something? No one in this thread has advocated allowing dogs to run loose. I doubt if you are accomplishing much by posting about it here.

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- my response was consistent with this thread topic:Ranting about stupid dog ownership
- was agreeing that the issue is with the owner of the animal as well as adding my own voice in agreement with Mimi's request that people control their dogs.
- there was a response to Mimi's post that somehow morphed into a charge of anti-dog bias - whew! It seems to be something that happens here occasionally, when we're all contributing to an online discussion about stupid dog ownership...go figure!
- Is there disagreement with the opinion I expressed that I should be able to ride without encountering unattended, unknown dogs, who may/may not be friendly, territorial, attacking or otherwise?
- I'm still firm on the same: dog owners should take care of and keep control of their pets.
Peace!
Mary

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Originally Posted by tulip

I have yet to meet a sweet Pomeranian.

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Lol! I once transported a senior citizen pom named Gizmo. He was the ONLY sweet natured pom that I've encountered. :)

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Originally Posted by sundial

Lol! I once transported a senior citizen pom named Gizmo. He was the ONLY sweet natured pom that I've encountered. :)

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Awww...one of our dogs is named Gizmo. He's some sort of Corgi/Chihuahua mix. Really sweet dog...we found him as a stray and I didn't want any more dogs (trying to keep it down to 2), but the kids fell in love with him.

PansyPalmetto (of BikeJournal Fame) has a sweet pomeranian.

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Originally Posted by MM_QFC!

- my response was consistent with this thread topic:Ranting about stupid dog ownership
- was agreeing that the issue is with the owner of the animal as well as adding my own voice in agreement with Mimi's request that people control their dogs.
- there was a response to Mimi's post that somehow morphed into a charge of anti-dog bias - whew! It seems to be something that happens here occasionally, when we're all contributing to an online discussion about stupid dog ownership...go figure!
- Is there disagreement with the opinion I expressed that I should be able to ride without encountering unattended, unknown dogs, who may/may not be friendly, territorial, attacking or otherwise?
- I'm still firm on the same: dog owners should take care of and keep control of their pets.
Peace!
Mary

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Chances are everyone posting in this thread is, or intends to be, a responsible dog owner. Several of them are involved in rescue and could tell "bad human" stories that would make everyone turn pale and faint.

So it's really not necessary, and really not conducive to productive discussion, to presume that people reading the thread are idiots in desperate need of advice.

Making an imperative statement (which technically Mimi did, not you) tends to turn the discussion in an argumentative direction. The polite thing to do is assume that the bad guys are "them", and the good guys are "us." Trust me -- it works. If "them" are reading, they will still get the point.

ETA: Just ran across a perfect case in point. I have a bulldog, and I moderate a bulldog internet group. So you bet I'm going to post about the bulldog I saw tonight tied up outside a store. No dog should be left unsupervised, especially not in Manhattan and especially not a bulldog (because they are well-known to be expensive). Partly I'll post to let off steam (this kind of thing makes me so mad I could spit) and partly in the hope that someone, somewhere might be educated (it's a huge group).

However, I wouldn't dream of posting in a lecturing fashion, e.g., "Don't leave your dog tied up outside a store." I shall write with the assumption that of course none of US would do such a thing (most of the people who post probably wouldn't; the lurkers I have no idea). We'll have a productive discussion (I have great anecdotes about the lengths I go to to avoid leaving my dog alone in a car) and possibly do some good.

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However, I wouldn't dream of posting in a lecturing fashion, e.g.,

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Oh. hm:

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I doubt if you are accomplishing much by posting about it here.

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Karen

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Originally Posted by Tuckervill

Oh. hm:
Karen

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I wouldn't dream of posting in a lecturing fashion in the dog group because I want it to be a place where people new to dogs can learn.

This thread is an entirely different matter. The internet is full of people taking a bold stand against evil and in favor of good. I love annoying them.

Just for the record, cos I doubt that anyone cares :D, I really like dogs. I prefer cats, but I still like dogs and have had two. But when a dog behaves really annoyingly I'm just not a patient enough person to not get annoyed at the dog, even though I know it's the owner who should take the rap. So I probably will continue to post about the Pom that I want to boot across the fence, and anger some of you for being childish, but still assume that most of you realize I wouldn't touch the dog IRL. A sweet-tempered dog is welcome at my door at any time, it doesn't even have to be under full control as long as it's friendly.

Peace, all.