...patronize the women's events -- cyclo-cross races, road races, mtb races, women's tri's like danskin, irongirl...it all helps!
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...patronize the women's events -- cyclo-cross races, road races, mtb races, women's tri's like danskin, irongirl...it all helps!
clarification~Cherry City Cyclists were sued over the right to organize a century. It went something like this: the club had organized rides for years in the Bay Area and I think it was '97 they organised a ride and had all the permits except for...one corner, approx a few hundred yards or less. Rather than re-route the whole dang thing they went ahead and did the ride. I was on it, it was great. My first metric century and I was so slow that I had my own personal sag wagon, last one in and the sweep vehicle just hung back kept me (and my ex DP) in view I think he even pulled over and read ;-)
They could not have been more supportive and friendly to newbie women. That experience helped get me hooked.
They got sued over that narrow bit of road and it kept them from doing more than training ride series till this year. I think their clup prez. even spent time in the pokey.
They have returned with a vengance with this:
http://www.cherrycitycyclists.org/Ce...oicesPage.html
84 miles with up to 10,000 feet of climbing. I don't thinks so, but you gals go ahead ;-)
There are seven major climbs and descents on this ride, plus an optional Cat. 1 rated eighth climb, including:
Wildcat Canyon - Grizzly Peak - Skyline Blvd - Pinehurst Rd - Redwood Rd - Palomares Rd - Calaveras Rd - Sierra Rd (optional CAT 1 climb)
These are the same roads traveled in Stage 2 of The 2006 Tour of California, clearly a world-class cycling route.
But back OT (on topic) what VdV sez, support women's sports.
That's insane mickchick. I haven't had guys tag my butt as I usually pass them. Hee Hee. But I did have this one old dood who rode on my tail for 15km and refused to take the lead. I was so annoyed because he neither announced himself or made an attempt to say hello.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickchick
I can relate. I ride alone all the time and encountered a total of 5 women last summer. Let's face it, it's a male-dominated sport where there is more smack talk than skills. 99% of the male roadies I encounter are very friendly and cool. But there will always be jerks.
But the one thing we as ladies shouldn't do is let a GUY make us feel inferior. We belong on the roads with guys and if they have a beef with having events that encourage female ridership, that is something they will have to get used to. I don't have stats but my LBS said they see women have contributed the biggest growth at their shop. So fellas, get used to it and be ready to meet us ladies on the road.
If you are nice to us, maybe we'll push you up the hill next time and fix your flat.
Having worked with men for 17 years, many resent the strides women have made. Sex discrimination knows no age boundaries either so young and old resent strides of women. Makes me glad I am single. :)
Amen sister!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by pkq
Sigh, reading the responses from the original posters. They don't get that a person's past experience affects what they do today and think that their sterling behavior is the behavior of all men. They must have been born with blinders attached. I can guarantee you I can find some chauvinistic and dominating males in south Texas, thinking of one right now who shall remain nameless.
And they still don't get that all sports are segregated in some way.
That takes empathy. Some people (of either gender) don't have that.
Just got in from out of town and read the posts here and on BJ. Thanks for posting the threads, SadieKate, because I didn't even know about these women only events (being new to cycling) and would love to get in on something like this!
As far as the clowns who get their panties in a wad over women-only stuff (women power?), don't forget that there are small minded people in every corner of society, including cycling! I see that there were just as many or more men who were supportive. I've worked in predominantly male occupations all of my working life and there are a lot of supposedly educated men out there who are truly bozos, but I believe women are gaining more (well deserved) respect all the time.
I couldn't find the link. what am i doing wrong?
Doc - Look under the forums section. You'll see a thread w/Red Riding Hood in the title.
I posted another response this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
It finally dawned on me that some of them are looking at it as a personal affront. In other words, it's all about THEM. And most of us here look at it as being about US. That is, something special for us. We see it as a positive. The THEMs see it as a negative. Venus and Mars or whatever.
Of course I still think our positive spin is preferable! :D What's not to love about an event that celebrates and empowers active women? DUH!
I always used to ask my good friend HotRod (whom some of you know), a man that has a tendency to say "insensitive" things: "what GOOD will come out of what you say?" He always conceded that I had a point.
Off to kick some male butt on the ski hill!
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yellow "It finally dawned on me that some of them are looking at it as a personal affront. In other words, it's all about THEM. And most of us here look at it as being about US. That is, something special for us. We see it as a positive. The THEMs see it as a negative. Venus and Mars or whatever."
water bottle half empty or half full :)
"Of course I still think our positive spin is preferable! :D What's not to love about an event that celebrates and empowers active women? DUH!"
Do we synchronise watches (one hour ahead) and begin "operation TE" with frank discussions on BJ of dealing with hot flashes, night sweats, periods and whether or not to ride pregnant?
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...light=multiple
off to walk the dog
I suggest how to ride on "heavy flow" days---how many tampons can one fit in your saddle bag and whether the caffeine in Midol will give you a boost to go faster. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trek420
mickchick "I suggest how to ride on "heavy flow" days---how many tampons can one fit in your saddle bag and whether the caffeine in Midol will give you a boost to go faster. ;)"
good idea! :D
Since the guys objecting to women only rides are lined up in droves to lead a progressive ride series for women they need to know what supplies to bring along, only fair.
This sport takes time, and money and I though to myself "self?" I thought "while these guys are off on their epic rides, if they have kids, who's watching the kids? We're all over this "how to balance life/work the bike" issue." My guess is they have it solved too.
Don't give up on BJ. That was probably the only thread I've seen in the 13 (14?) months that really went awry. And, you have to admit that it wasn't the flame wars you see on other forums.
I love having no more issues than 2,600 other women . . . I think. Was that a compliment? :D
BTW, I loved everybody's posts. Makes me appreciate my friends even more.
I thought of responding to that thread, but I've decided those guys are just tedious twits who deserve no effort of a response on my part.
Plus everyone else already said what I felt, and said it better at that.
jBraTTon just made a very nice response. He's still clueless that there will always be times when female camaraderie and sharing is appropriate just as there is the same for men. I give him kudos for listening and trying to comprehend.
Did Hades freeze over? You agreed with me! I think I am going to faint. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by snapdragen
Hey, you're OK for a conservative, engineer type......:DQuote:
Originally Posted by pkq
A little OT, but a little related. My husband was totally shocked to find out that when I ride alone I sometimes get ummmm comments from men, not other cyclists mind you, but guys out on the street. It never happens when he's with me, but who would want to chance making a lewd comment when the 6'4" hubby is around. I was actually surprised that he was that naive about the habits of other men and the effects that his presence has on them.
Hey - speaking of guys that don't "get it" in the context of BJ -
What happened to that Curtis guy who was going to do every single double in CA his first year out, and the brevet series, and who diss'ed you guys for not riding in the Solvang deluge?? I know a bunch of folks had fired off at him, including me in a backhanded way, on that thread. And he hasn't posted since. From what I understand, he had basically ruined his knee by doing too much too soon - but boy was he ambitious and cocky. I looked at his journal and only 3 rides in March.
Weird. I guess he took his toys and went home. Which is dumb, because it doesn't seem like he learned anything.
:rolleyes:
OMG! ESP! Great minds singing the same tune again.
He's awfully wrapped up in his BJ rank compared to other far more seasoned riders, rather than focusing on training, events . . . and learning.:rolleyes:
MP, is Giny your old riding partner? Bubba said she told him that she rode the Solvang century and realized how lucky she was to come through unscathed. He said she said that she personally saw 5 crashes. Wind gusts to 30 mph. It takes incredible bike handling skills and mental alertness to stay upright on a bike when it gets into those numbers.
Yeah, when he sets out a goal of beating someone else's mileage, that's pretty shallow.
Yeah, Giny and I rode together for a season with TNT. She's very cool and fun to ride with - super competitive. She's a good bike handler, and would have done fine under those conditions. Her ex husband owns Showers Pass, the rain gear company - he's a wacky dude and I actually learned a ton from riding with him. It was in my first year of riding, so I was a complete sponge.
Worst ride for crashes was Tucson last year. So many crashes. Mike saw a tandem endo. Visualize that.
Do I have to?? I've been airborne on one flying across a steel deck bridge as we were madly trying to slow down from 62 mph. That was close enough.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by maillotpois
Ho-lee-cow! Don't like that image. Yikes. Not too fond of the airborne--steel deck bridge--62 mph image, either! :eek: Glad you survived to tell the tale. L.Quote:
Originally Posted by maillotpois
Wow - both bad images. I am glad your experience ended up okay, SK. The endo tandem stoker was not so lucky. She stayed cliepped in but ended up facing the wrong way on the bike.
How did we get off on this topic????
All topics digress eventually and turn to food, the Diva cup or Brazilian waxing. :D
V.
maillotpois "She stayed cliepped in but ended up facing the wrong way on the bike."
ok, I think there's no way you can do that without ratcheting your ankles hips or knees 180, right?
yikes, shivers
Diva cup, food, waxing.
And if there's a new barrage of the latter two topics, we know who to blame. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Veronica
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Originally Posted by Trek420
Right. 180. Or some other angle you DON'T want to think about. Love me a diva cup. (Actually, I'm planning to try it out, but that's for another thread...)
maillotpois "Love me a diva cup."
yep yep, did you know they make excellent little cups for entertaining, you can put the little side dishes in them, grated coconut, cashews,chopped parsley that sort of thing.
I use them at the waxing party buffet