Wow! That's a long list!Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
Komen runs quite an operation. :rolleyes:
ETA: Oh too funny, one of it's Corporate Partners is ... Specialized Bicycle Components. :p
Wow! That's a long list!Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
Komen runs quite an operation. :rolleyes:
ETA: Oh too funny, one of it's Corporate Partners is ... Specialized Bicycle Components. :p
I lost respect for the organization ages ago due to their overly aggressive and litigious stance concerning their numerous "for the cure" and "pink" trademarks. Komen can stick it.
too funny!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jobob
While I deeply appreciate and have benefitted from how well breast cancer is funded, it is difficult to support Komen and Pinktober. It is actually painful being confronted with all of the crap, Kentucky Fried Chicken? UGH especially knowing that their are other, better groups out there. Breast Cancer Action is excellent. As is Planned Parenthood, of course.
OMG, I'm violating their copyright on pink :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by goldfinch
I'm a grandchild of a breast cancer survivor, my wife's a melanoma survivor, so's another aunt. I lost an aunt, grandfather, cousin and my dad to cancer. :(
Cancer sucks and should not be politicized. In this economy with more need and worthy charities chasing less money this was a baaaaaad move by SBK. :rolleyes:
Because of the whole SGK debacle, I've finally made a donation to PP. I wish the debacle hadn't been the fueling reason, but I'm glad my dollars went to a worthy cause and I'll continue to support PP.
Now I feel dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by jobob
I imagine the best reaction (that I've heard of so far) is to simply donate directly to breast cancer research groups or Planned Parenthood... as it removes the heavy administrative costs that come out of the Komen donation before the money is distributed.
Not to get too far afield ... but I lost respect for them ages ago because of their complete rejection of breast cancer prevention, their cozy ties with industries that cause and profit from breast cancer, and their est-like emphasis on "awareness."Quote:
Originally Posted by goldfinch
If there's any silver lining in this, it's that Komen is no longer untouchable. Used to be if you questioned pinkwashing in the slightest, people looked at you like you were in favor of breast cancer. Komen's latest moves may change all that.
+100!!
Another reason why I chose the American Lung Association for my summer charity ride-- they focus on the prevention of lung diseases and spend a serious portion of their money trying to do just that... fighting for clean air legislation, smoking bans, and public health measures.
It's shameful how much collusion is in the medical industry/doctors/researchers/charities.
Trek - thanks for reminding us (a couple of times now) about the Breat Cancer Fund. They are a great organization. Remember the push for BPA free bottles? You can thank their research for that.
I want to do one of their hikes one of these days.
Wonder what would happen if more men knew that PP provides men's health services.
But I wonder if it is too late and too many skeletons in the closet have been exposed. I saw somewhere that only 24% of donations go to charities. 76% overhead? WTH? I'd research it but I've never been a big fan of theirs any way.
http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/2...od-funding.ece
Too little, too late, they have sunk themselves with both "sides" now. Pathetic.
ITA, Pax. I doubt Komen will ever regain it's standing.
Makes me wonder if any of SGK's oh-so-many Corporate Partners had a hand in this? I wouldn't be surprised.
You know even though they have now said they won't cut funding they should have never gone there in the first place! I will give my money to PP any day. I will not be buying or supporting any product they back now. PP has helped me and so many other's I know who don't have much money or really needed care. They do much for so little!
I did their Bike Against the Odds ride. Well run, scenic, started right out of downtown Oakland, GREAT food yet surprisingly few riders. :( That could be why they don't have the event anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by maillotpois
I imagine their hikes are great. I like their attitude of going after the causes of cancer wherever they are and they seem to do a lot with a little. :)
Maybe if they fired the VP that seems to have instigated all this, the ultra conservative woman who ran for governor of Georgia, they might regain some trust. But letting that other woman resign in protest, and not firing the VP, doesn't get my trust & confidence.
Exactly what I was thinking Melalvia.
"Planned Parenthood operatives"
I guess that's us.
I wonder if the conservative right in DC are paying attention - IE what would be the political reprecussions if they push overturning Roe v Wade? I'm thinking that they didn't expect the uproar that SBK created with their decision and reversal (not that they're bowing to political pressure :rolleyes:).
Someone with keen observation skills over at The Atlantic in the comments section noted that this statement released by Komen...
...implies that they reserve the right to not renew their current grant. The current grant isn't being canceled, but they are saying we don't have to renew those grants. It really doesn't say anything at all.Quote:
"We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities."
well my money is going directly to PP and other organizations. Komen foundation will never get another dime from me. Finding out that they are only giving 25% to actual breast cancer... What is up with that??
Nope!! NADA. Marketing people do say that it takes years to develop a GOOD brand recognition and only a second to destroy it. They certainly did.
For the first time EVER, I saw a Komen commercial on TV last night. I don't know if that was a local ad or a national one.
Seen on Facebook: "We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that resulted in completely unexpected scrutiny of our CEO's unconscionably high salary, obscenely high overhead to actual good ratio, longstanding links to Republican politicians, huge budget for taking oppressive legal actions against other charities that dare use the word 'cure,' vast marketing and lobbying budgets, and long-standing history of secretly lobbying against federal assistance to women with breast cancer.
Based upon the last ten years, we truly had no idea that we couldn't do whatever the hell we wanted with gullible contributors' money. We thought that the corpse of our CEO's sister was an impenetrable shield that protected all of our actions from scrutiny or accountability. We appreciate your support while we try to figure out WTF has changed.
However, although the sudden spike in scrutiny and precipitous drop in fundraising and sponsorships scared the crap out of us, we want to assure all of you that, even as we desperately attempt to salvage something out of the conflagration burning our brand to the ground, we will continue to flat-out lie to your face and generally assume you are all still such credulous imbeciles that we can shamelessly stick to obvious falsehoods or change our story from minute to minute as whim or panic dictate.
Now please stop looking into our finances, lobbying and legal activities and strong political connections with right wing politicians. Stop it right now or Susan will be angry, very angry with you. Thank you."
Do you have a link to that passage from Facebook, Gypsy? I must pass that on.
That is excellent and I would love the link too.
LOL! It makes me laugh ruefully.
This has taken on meme-like proportions. Here is a wall that has the quote publicly: https://www.facebook.com/people/Phil...063903?sk=wall
You need to scroll down to find it.
I only made a small donation ($100) to SGK last year. I won't make any donation next year at all because only $24 of this year's donation did any good. My small donation became a miniscule donation in regards to actual cancer work thanks to that 76% going to overhead.
I'm haven't been a fan of SBKF for a while, and this week's debacle certainly did nothing to change my mind. I'm just curious where the "76% overhead" number is coming from? When I look at their Audited Financial Statements (income statement on p.3), I see the following:
Public Support (i.e., donations) $420M
Other Income $19M
=Total Public Support & Revenue $439M
Program Services (research, education, screening/health services) $334M
Supporting Services (i.e., overhead) $75M
=Total Expenses $409M
=Net Increase in Assets (the non-profit version of earnings) $30M
Looks like overhead is just under 18% of donations and just over 18% of expenses. Page 11 confirms program services are 82% of expenses. So where are those extreme overhead numbers coming from?
I got them from earlier in this thread.
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"But I wonder if it is too late and too many skeletons in the closet have been exposed. I saw somewhere that only 24% of donations go to charities. 76% overhead? WTH? I'd research it but I've never been a big fan of theirs any way.
http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/2...od-funding.ece "
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I should have checked them for validity. I am sorry. I simply assumed SadieKate's source was correct.
According to Charity Navigator, programming expense is 80.5%.
You know, when I read this thread, I have my screen resolution set so that on the main page, the thread title reads "Tell the board of Susan G. Komen..."
My brain inserts rude phrases at the end.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/381282/april-11-2011/pap-smears-at-walgreens
This is hilarious, but sad, at the same time. That politicians can make such absurdly incorrect statements and then feel that they can use the excuse that they never meant it to be factual? WTH?
Thanks for reminding me, I'm do for my annual Pap. Off to Walgreens. :)
And get your colonoscopy in the photo department :D
Just look for the stirrups.
Ow, I'm laughing so hard my throat hurts.
You ladies are cracking me up!!
:D:D
OK, fess up. Who here writes for Colbert?
Hee hee.:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Trek420