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I loved the idea of bibs (nice smooth lines, no waist elastic) - but I pee for England so I discounted them. But then I discovered some made by a German company called Protective (I know, crap name). They have a zipper w/ a long tag (bit like a wetsuit) that undoes just so you can basically pull them down over your butt. I never notice the zip when I am riding & it's easy to pull down & up even w/ lots of layers. The chamois is really comfy & the front of the bib is a Y shape so it goes between the bosoms. In fact I usually put it on under my sports bra so it lies against the skin. The other thing is that the top 1/2 of the bib is white so it doesn't show under a pale top. They aren't very cheap (but cheaper than many of the brand mentioned here) - I think they do longs too. I think the model is called Franke or something similar. In the UK the only place that supplies them is the Edinburgh Bicycling Co-Op. Definitely recommend them - all the advantages of bibs without the disadvantage. Might try the PI ones too. Would never try the ones that don't come off easily - I would spend more time stripping & dressing than I did riding . . .
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Maybe TE could become a US distributor for Protective!
I like the look of those waistbands too!
http://www.protective.de/2010ss_cycl...lash.html#/48/
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I love my PI PRO bibs. I find them infinitely more comfortable than any pair of cycling shorts that I own...and I own many ranging from PI, Sugoi, Shebeest, and Zoot. The thing that sold me on bibs, is the fact that they hold in my tummy. I'm 44, have been up and down with my weight, so I have a rather unattractive "pouch" that simply won't go away no matter how much weight I lose. The bibs support my lower abdomen SO much better than shorts do. Shorts just bind and dig into my waist, and I find many of them are a lower rise cut...which offers NOTHING in the way of support for my tummy "pouch". Pearl Izumi came out with a new "drop tail" design (for potty stops) bibshort for women this year...so I'll be checking those out soon.
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I have just got my first bib shorts and I love them, no more elastic waists and no more bare skin when your jersey rides up.
I actually went with boys ones, because you can find them cheap and on sale. Santini ones seem to fit well.
As for the peeing thing well the first time I did the old trick we all learnt when changing for sports at school - slip the straps off the shoulders and down the arms then you can drop the shorts without taking off the jersey.
But that doesn't work if you're wearing a jacket, long sleeves and it's time consuming. So out came the "joke" present for xmas - the Shewee - the Santini shorts are low enough at the front to use this and if I can perfect the technique it means peeing will be super easy.
