No, I really mean it. Seriously.
Why won't you believe me?:p
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No, I really mean it. Seriously.
Why won't you believe me?:p
Does the Christian Aerobics show still come on TV?
ooookk.....The mental image I have of a Christian Aerobics show is purty darn funny...
*snork*
Let's pray..
Get down n give me 50..then recite that verse from whatever gospel. UP! Down.
Now, 50 pull ups.
Let's work on those legs. 40 squats. Now sing that blah blah gospel song at the same time.
Now Mrs Foosieewoosiee, that was only 20. Sorry, no going to heaven for you since you cheated.
How are you feeling now? There's no crying in baseball!
Please continue..
You both missed the part where she used to ask for donations every 3-4 minutes. :p
I am staying out of this..
although I did teach aerobics at the Jewish Community Center, back in the day. However, I did not make anyone pray, although maybe I should have asked for donations?:)
I haven't continued to follow this conversation, so sorry if someone else already posted this...
For Mimi:
http://www.milanofixed.com/wp-conten.../12/image1.jpg
From Urban Velo :D
oh no!! some of these people resemble my own SONS!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
thanks Kalidurga. I wish i could read it better...
Hope some folks here who might fit the image, can giggle at themselves. They're tough enough. :)
The beer is wrong.
I know right? It should be PBR. But that's on his hat.
Here's a readable version.
http://digital.pastemagazine.com/pub.../?i=26727&p=29
I would so wear that orange dress and boots :o
Oh me too! But I like that furry hat a lot too.
*snork* the "mountain man" looks just like half the dudes at my local climbing gym.
Boy, if I were a youngster ( anywhere under, say, the age of 25) I would be really insulted! Both my sons are a mixture of many of the hipster "stages", The over riding characteristic of which seems to be a reaction against the trappings of their parent's generation. What generation of kids hasn't done that? We all look pretty silly as we fumble about trying to define ourselves--especially when we do it by playing up what we are not. Any way, the whole hubub seems to me to be about the perennial disruptiveness of "sexy" young women. Not sure where hipsterdom comes into it.
One of my sons sort of looks like a combination of those guys. The who commutes, natch. He commuted this morning, when the temperature was about 7 F. Of course, he called me to consult on what to wear. My reply was, "you are nuts."
I have come to the conclusion that he is as tough as his brother, who is a Marine.
Big doings! A naked bike ride to protest the closure is planned for this evening. Brrrr.
How,...um..meaningful. A naked bike ride protest.
Ok, label me a prude, but really, naked bike rides to me, aren't fun. Just kinda stupid. Actually have never understood the logic of naked bike rides for any situation.
Once in Toronto, we were riding around and inadvertedly rode into an area where the naked bike ride was going through. I was not impressed...and these guys (most of them were) were in better shape than the general guy population.
I felt sorry for a family with their 2 children under age 10, who were about 1 km. behind us, before they turned the corner.... They wouldn't have known what they were going to see.
If the point of the bike lanes is safety (it is, isn't it? Bike lanes make it safer for cyclists?), it seems to me that a naked bike ride, in the dark, in the cold, in the snow, is not the best way to make the point that cyclists value safety.
I agree. I also think it does not help to drive home the point that cyclists are a serious, sane, reasonable group of people who have valid points to make.
Yuck. If I had a bunch of naked people riding in front of MY house I would lobby to have the bike lane closed too. Besides the fact that, once again, it is ILLEGAL to ride naked (well, it is illegal to expose one's genitals to the point of offense).
It's not the bike lane bringing the naked folks out. The bike lane is just a bike lane. That's the weird part -- the idea that bike lanes somehow cause the distractions. Do the Hasidim have the right to keep people from riding on the public streets? Do they have the right to have the facilities changed on those grounds? Closing bike lanes doesn't keep *all* cyclists away...
We just had a public hearing to discuss taking parking away and putting in bike lanes. The city folks listened to the citizens' reasoning both ways. Fundamentally, the arguments that "bicyclists are bad things to have in our nei9ghborhood" were sagely nodded at... but not considered as valid.Basically bicycles are now included in transportation planning. If that's true in some parts of NY, it should be true in the selective neighborhoods, too.
Since the Hasidim are going beyond logic it kinda makes sense to me that the cyclists are, too. If they really don't want the distractions, then they can ask for the bike lanes to be put back, and then the people will stop distracting. That's logical. If the distractions are truly their priority they'll go for it.
Yeah, this argument of "going beyond logic makes others do the same" doesn't make sense...if the removed the bike lanes, you have to go through legal channels to replace them...two wrongs don't make a right. Petition, protest, picket, whatever (as long as you don't interfere with others rights to move about freely) but repainting bike lanes illegally and a naked bike ride is not the way to go.
Police cannot enforce cyclists right to a bike lane if the lane is painted illegally anyhow. It may as well not exist.
The legal channels have obviously broken down; the lanes were originally the law and the change was because of a fundamental corruption of the law. They're putting *back* what was illegally removed.
I would have to agree that the clown ride is a more intelligent and inviting protest, since it stays well within the law and isn't even "scantily clad." As a strategy, though, the nekkidity might bring more press coverage and therefore expose the corruption for what it is.
And I also have to agree that people *will* lump cyclists into the fringe, making it just harder to convey cycling as normal behavior that others might consider trying.
And it certainly doesn't help cyclists to come in off the fringe in people's minds when they ride naked in the dark and snow -- which is not particularly safe -- to try to make the point that they value safety.Quote:
And I also have to agree that people *will* lump cyclists into the fringe, making it just harder to convey cycling as normal behavior that others might consider trying.
The main thing the cyclists had going for them was the safety issue. It is easy to petition on the side of safety; it's harder to petition successfully when standing naked on an illegal soapbox.
The legal channels are still there, waiting to be used. If people don't want to be considered on the fringe, they shouldn't act like people on the fringe.
I see the naked bike ride as just an attention-getter -- not very important at all. I posted the link because I thought it was funny.
I don't think there is the remotest possibility that all cyclists will be regarded as loons because a couple of people rode naked (or threatened to do so).
In any case, the weather changed the cyclists' plans.
Pam
Divine intervention? :D