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except that was news from the day before. It got its run at the top of the headlines just because of the titillating subject. There have been more important stories hit the top since then, besides the celebrity deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irulan
Brings us back to the other thread... people still say they read the "paper." :D
Your sources must be interesting if they don't mention a rather significant 4th amendment rights Supreme Court case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catriona
Oh, I'd read about that the day before and had half followed this whenever it first made the news last year or so? What I don't get is why the vice principal is not personally liable for the search.
Well, it was on the front headline of the Wall Street Journal and my local paper this morning, not yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
I read TWO papers every morning.
Excellent, it's sad how many print newspapers are going out of business. I used to read newspapers, but recycling them, the ads, etc got to be a pain, so now there's the internet which lets you hit multiple newspapers. Unfortunately a lot of them just repackage what comes out over the AP wire.
News comes out faster if you read off newspapers websites - it may have been I saw the headlines about the supreme court ruling yesterday morning, and it was about 7 or so last night that the headlines about Michael were all over the internet news sites.
You go, Irulan. :D
And why news can't be covered more than 1 day in a row is beyond me. Perhaps on the 2nd day there might be more information to offer?
I just about lost it last night when Keith O blabbered and speculated for at least 2 hours about Michael Jackson's death. Report the few facts that are known, break your normal coverage for new facts, and get back to world and national affairs (like Supreme Court rulings about strip searches of minors for unjust cause). If you want to pay homage, take 24 hours and put together a report that doesn't have the same stupid blathering talking heads and video footage re-circulating over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ad nauseum.
So do I :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Irulan
Me, too for reading the paper. On Thursday, it's 3 (when my local paper comes out). Usually don't get to the WSJ until the PM, though.
I scan the Yahoo headlines, but it's rare that I click on any story. I watch 1-2 hours of local news a night (when I am home) and the CBS national news. I look at CNN once in awhile, but it's too repetitive for me. I also read Time magazine. Yes, these are mainstream publications, but I take it all with a grain of salt.
Actually, the Boston Globe *does* do investigative reporting (i.e., the Catholic Church scandal), but a lot less of it now due to the financial condition of the paper. I was quite interested in the middle school case, because I could totally see how that could happen, although I know for sure my last boss would not have strip searched anyone! Can't say that for others, though. School law is very uneven in how court cases get decided. A few years ago I did a research paper on censorship in English classes and the decisions were all over the place according to the state, the level of court, the federal government.
In my opinion the media outlets are driven to make money. The picture of a now dead, music icon, who let a tumultuous life sells newspapers, keeps ratings up, crashes websites and basically makes money.
For me there are things that are vastly more important than this, but to whom?
Then there is escapism. Many out there would rather focus on his life/death or Farrah's life/death, even if it is only for a few hours, than wonder how we are going to pay our mortgage. It takes the mind to another place.
Additionally there are a large group who 'grew up' listening to the music, hearing it at school dances, birthday parties, etc. Now the association of that music, is of a man who is no longer here to make more music. Or the beauty icon that no one would ldave alone in her final days.
I read the LA Times and the WSJ and scan the internet and watch the news in no specific order.
Supreme court decisions are always on my mind, why, it's just what I am interested in reading. If some people are more concerned about a dead celebrity, whatever, doesn't bother me either.
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Originally Posted by Catriona
courtesy the ACLU
http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/searc...l20090625.html
In today's Supreme Court decision, despite deeming the strip search of Redding unconstitutional, the Court found that the school officials involved are immune from liability. The decision leaves open the possibility, however, that the Safford Unified School district could be held liable.
Thank goodness Lee & I routinely record Keith and Rachel on the DVR to watch later in the evening. I just kept the controller on fast forward through both their broadcasts, it was all MJ mourners all the time. Bleah.Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
Hey, I'm just a wee bit sad about his passing because his music was such a fixture in my teens and twenties, during a very formative period in my life. Not that his music had anything to do with how my life turned out, but it was there in the background. Certain music takes me back to that time, his included. His music played a pretty significant role in the culture of that era (more recently, I'd think not).
But yeah, his passing does warrant a bit of my attention for these reasons. But it's probably overblown in the media, it's what they do and they're very good at it. It'll blow over in a few days.
Hell, if it really bugs you, go take a hike in Appalachia. :D ;) :D
Well, back on topic for me...I was unexpectedly sad at Farrah's passing yesterday. I'd heard of her illness, and knew she was dying, but didn't expect to break into tears walking to the library, as I did.
I didn't realize how highly I thought of her until right then. I was a little young for "Charlies Angels" but I loved her in "The Burning Bed" and "Extremities", both of which were really powerful performances. These were really strong characters, and she brought them to life.
She came into a store I worked in once, and I have to say, she really was breathtaking.
TV stations are in the business of selling advertising to make money. The news is a sidebar. I wish I could cite the lawsuit that established this but it had something to do with paying staff overtime. This is all very hazy from some HR class I took in the Dark Ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACG
Hello!Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
You mean take a hike on the Appalachian Trail?Quote:
Originally Posted by jobob
Appalachian Trail, Appalachia. One is a trail that runs through Appalachia, the other is a geographic area.
As a person who lives in Appalachia I just wanted to clear that up. Now excuse me, I must go attend to my still in the holler.
Sorry, Appalachian Trail, that's what I meant. :o
Just curious, where do you folks go for "real" news - not to be confused with the ad-driven consumer oriented lowest common denominator stuff we often get ?
OK I admit this might be a loaded question, or an unanswerable question, but what the heck I've had my beer and I'm feelin' feisty. :cool:
Npr
I was much more into the news during the election than I am now, but here are some of my sites:Quote:
Originally Posted by jobob
www.huffingtonpost.com
www.politico.com
www.rawstory.com
www.washingtonpost.com
Yahoo news
CNN in the morning
Rachel Maddow
and I read the Sierra Sun, our local biweekly paper :D
I almost forgot... I listen to NPR in the car and Coast To Coast AM on the way home from work because you MUST keep up on the UFO sightings.
Newshour with Jim Lehrer and Worldfocus are two television options (both on PBS). Sirius/XM radio has the BBC World Service.
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Originally Posted by jobob
THAT was funny. :D:D Now that's a story that really makes me want to barf. I don't have any trouble seeing the deaths of Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett as sad. But Sanford's emails are the best diet control device I've seen THIS week. Ick.
From Gail Collins yesterday:
“I spent the last five days crying in Argentina,” he said, completely ignoring all we have learned from Andrew Lloyd Webber.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/op...lins.html?_r=1
I'm still giggling thanks to a friend of jobob's. Of course, the stupid refrain is stuck in my head.
OMG, I can't believe I didn't think of that! Too too funny :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
I hope his wife takes all his money and marries the pool boy.
I'm all over the place. New york times, financial times, bbc world, huffington post, generally if I'm reading a story about iran or whatever - go find an Iranian news paper. Get a couple different sources. Is it real then? So I end up on a lot of other news sites regularly in addition to those.
and I don't even have to get black smudges on my fingers from newsprint.
Hey, I was actually SO taken by Gail Collins' column on this yesterday that I emailed her to say "Great column; been meaning to tell you I like your work." I was reading parts of it out loud to my spouse in the next room and laughing immoderately. "Finally, a governor who’s weirder than Rod Blagojevich and less responsible than Eliot Spitzer." Thank you, Gail.
Yeah, me too. I am a total online news junkie. There used to be a Tehran Globe but my bookmark for that now does not find it. Al Jazeera English is sometimes worth a look, as is the Middle East Daily, and Malaysiakini.com is really interesting. And the Lebanon Daily Star (dailystar.com.lb).Quote:
Originally Posted by Catriona
It's her money already. She's part of the Skil power tool family. Just think of the possibilities . . . . :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_220506.html
I'm quite liking her so far. http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/10/18/d...jenny-sanford/
Wow. She should run for his office.
Should you wish to read about Iran etc..Why not visit the Independent & read Fisky's (robert fisk) articles..http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...s-1721566.html
Thanks, I just added a gadget for that site to my homepage.
I end up on the independent fairly often.
I lost all our links when we transferred to our new computer..:o :(
I believe this was one of the papers I had on my list..http://www.iran-daily.com/1388/3432/html/
Yup, this. Flu virus loves to mutate, and this one has a lot of hallmarks of the Spanish flu, which wasn't all that bad until it's 4th or 4th mutation. So this flu virus can still come around and bite us all in the *** something fierce. Of course by that point we will all be so jaded over them "crying wolf" that we might not take it seriously :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Zen
The ting about this "swine flu" that bothers me...The media doesn't make a point in first stating the fact that the folks this week in Aust that have died from it..were seriously ill already..One had terminal cancer, etc. Let's get some perspective folks..We're not all going to die from it..:rolleyes:
Stupid Stupid media..:mad:
I agree about the media. However, this particular flu *is* also killing healthy, young adults unlike the usual flu that mostly affects the old, already ill, or the very young. So, while I don't think we should all run around with our heads cut off, I think we should pay some attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycanuck
If there was no news coverage of the underlying medical conditions, how did you know about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycanuck
WHooops, didn't explain myself well there :o
What I meant to say is the media reported thier deaths but the underlying fact that they were already ill wasn't part of the first couple of paragraphs in the articles or in the headline..
Whether or not they had other medical issues the cause of death was still N1H1 influenza virus. it's not pandemic at this point but it's lurking.
For "general" news, a couple more -
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://thinkprogress.org/
http://news.yahoo.com/world/oneworld
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
There are a lot of other sites I visit for more focused coverage. I adore Robert Fisk (who is a riveting speaker as well - he's appeared on Democracy Now! several times), but for the most part I'd consider his columns commentary or background rather than up-to-the minute news.
And, H1N1 flu is pandemic as of two weeks ago. Guess that got lost under the celebrity headline du jour.
Real news is out there, slugged with headlines in a regular sized font. I know I have more time on my hands than most, but nobody is forcing anyone to read the celebrity stories.