I like chamois buttr and desitin baby ointment followed by bag balm.
I was under the impression that vasoline or any petroleum derivative was very hard on the actual chamois.
marni
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I like chamois buttr and desitin baby ointment followed by bag balm.
I was under the impression that vasoline or any petroleum derivative was very hard on the actual chamois.
marni
Has anyone tried Booty Balm? I ran across a reference to this stuff, but can't find a full ingredients list. It sounds nice, though. At least the fragrance sounds like something I wouldn't mind having on my backside. :D
Ha, so DH just did his first century ride of the year. He used a sample pack of DZ Nuts that he got recently. I think he is sold--and this guy is seriously Dutch. He will go cheapo whenever possible. He said his backside was pretty danged happy until about 75 miles in, when usually it's complaining much earlier.
I have a couple of samples of Bliss that I think I'm going to have to try, though the tingle of the DZ Nuts doesn't sound like it would be irritating, either.
Bag Balm contains only three ingredients: petroleum jelly, lanolin, and (.3%) 8-hydroxyquinoline sulfate (an antiseptic).Quote:
Originally Posted by marni
Another interesting find in my chamois lube research: Hoo Ha Ride Glide -- apparently this was the first women-specific chamois product, even before DZNuts "Bliss." Looks a helluvalot cheaper, too. And most of the ingredients look good--no parabens, no petroleum-based stuff.
Interesting variety of creams. I had a bad reaction to Assos and another one with a list of chemicals so I've gone to the ol zinc and castor oil cream. Very happy with it, and very cheap.
zoom zoom, this looks like something i might want to try. brilliant name, female owned company, and if it works, i'm sold!Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
hey bleeker street girl, thanks for that info- Bag balm is now off the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl
marni
I checked the hoo ha ingredients and didn't see Evodia (anti inflammatory and anti bacterial) nor Masterwort (wound healing) nor a Pre/pro biotic complex to inhibit yeast infections and promote skin flora growth like on the dzbliss chamois cream.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisathew8lifter
I would be willing to try a sample of hoo ha though ladies if you have some, but my gut feeling tells me that I might be embracing dzbliss chamois cream for a long time. :)
I only use chamois butter on very long rides (metric and over), so my exposure is limited. However, I'm usually very health conscious so I'll give hoo ha a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
My DH will faint dead away when I pull that out of my saddle bag :eek: I can barely get him to acknowledge the butter ;)
i have heard of several people not using anything at all or just on longer rides. i would be one hurtin' unit if i went for a long ride without anything. i have major pinching, esp when mountain biking. that makes for a very short and uncomfortable ride. i may have to check into the dzbliss!
Hmmm...so I tried a sample pack of DZ Bliss for the first time...jury is still out. I think the tea tree oil in it may be a bit much for me. I had tingling on the verge of burning and it bothered me for at least the first hour of my ride. Not painful, per se, but sorta irritating. Even my butt still feels warm after my ride.
The tea tree oil scent is fairly strong, so I wonder how much is in the stuff. If I take a crack at making my own chamois butter I would definitely not use much...or use a different anti-fungal, like grapefruit seed extract or something.
Has anybody tried the Hoo Ha Ride Glide? I have been using Bag Balm, which is wonderfully cheap, but would like to get away from a petroleum based product.
I wouldn't bother with grapefruit seed extract. Depending on whom you ask, it either has no effect, or its effects are due to nasty quaternary ammonium compounds.
Pure shea butter needs no preservatives nor additives....
Ooh, good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by OakLeaf
10 hours after applying the "Bliss" (ha!) and my girly bits are still feeling a little inflamed and sensitive. Ick. Next time I ride I will go back to Chamois Butt'r and try a few drops of tea tree oil with that to see if that's the culprit. I'd love to narrow-down what caused this irritation. There are so many things in the Bliss that it could be anything, though I suspect the TTO.
Thanks for posting about the DZBliss, zoom-zoom. I was wondering about all those ingredients! I recently tried Hammer's Seat Saver and didn't care for it. In fact, I ended up showering it off before I left the house. I wondered if it was the TTO and/or the peppermint and/or the clove oil.
It contains:
Pure Olive Oil, Shea Butter, Distilled Water, Calendula, Yarrow, Chamomile, Comfrey, Stearic Acid, Beeswax, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Oil, Basil Oil, Clove Oil, Lavender Oil, Peppermint Oil, and Tea Tree Oil.
I don't often use chamois butter on my road bike, but I am finding that I do need it on my tri bike because of all the time I spend in aero position. I'm sticking with Chamois Butt'r for now. DH really likes the Hammer product, so at least it won't go to waste.
Hope you are feeling better soon!
Thanks...things feel much better this AM. I would also be suspicious of those essential oils. That stuff is nice in small amounts, but the combo of so many seems like it could be irritating to mucous membranes. I'll bet that Hammer product smells nice, though! :D
It looks like a large percentage of women here use chamois cream of some kind. I have not considered using it yet, though of course I just had my first ride >25 miles so my rides haven't been long enough to have any problems of this nature.
I would like to avoid having problems though, what descriptions I've read here just doesn't sound like fun at all :eek: I am curious, do most here use it just on rides longer than a certain time/distance, or for all rides?
It really depends on the individual. It's as personal as saddles. Most people use some most of the time, but there are a few who never do. If you haven't felt the need for any, that's something to celebrate, not worry about. :)
OK, tried mixing a few drops of tea tree oil with Chamois Butt'r and I had NO issues...it tingled a tiny bit, but I had no overly warm or sensitivity issues. So there is something in the Bliss that doesn't sit well with my, um, "sitty area," but it's not TTO.
I am a total devotee after my first century on Sat. I applied a bit more at 75 miles in, but probably didn't need to. I just happened to have a sample tube along and thought, what the heck. It's really nice stuff, though...perfect slippery, buttery consistency, nice light lemony fragrance. No real tingly sensation, which is OK with me. I'm not sure I really care for a ton of tingle.Quote:
Originally Posted by nscrbug
I accidentally used a sample of the DZ Nuts (something like that), and let-me-tell-you that you do not want tingle. It was over the top, something much less would probably be fine. The women's version was fine - I suspect that is the only difference between the two. Can't see how ANYONE would like that much tingle...but perhaps that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Thanks for the tip on this...I wonder if they send samples? I don't think I can check out their website from work - the filter would probably choke on part the name of the site. I like that it is mostly natural - have tried the Chamois Butter - but of course it has parabens...
They do have samples. I believe for $4 they will send a sample tube + sticker and shipping is included. Otherwise their sample tubes are like $1.25.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catrin
If I'm not mistaken, I read the ingredient list on the Chamois Buttr at a store recently, and it did not have parabens in it. Maybe they've changed the formulation or there is something worse in it than parabens.
Could be they have changed it. I have a couple of the little "sample" size. I do not have one with me but could have sworn that the ingredients have parabens in the listing. Or I misread. Will check again once I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by beccaB
The Burts Bees also sounds interesting...
The last time I bought Chamois Butt'r (maybe two years ago), it had parabens. That's why I stopped. I couldn't find the ingredients on their own website, but here they are listed on TE (click the box for ingredients)
Chamois Butt'r "Eurostyle" doesn't contain parabens, according to what some have posted here and the list on Performance's site, but it does contain EDTA, PEG-100 stearate, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate - all of which are questionable - as well as the "tingle" from witch hazel and menthol.
I use Coconut Oil. If your house is cooler than 76 degrees it is a solid form. I just take a swipe of it with my finger out of the jar (a jar that I use only for this... not for cooking!) and lube up before a ride. It is gentle, chemical free, and does a great job.
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Originally Posted by nscrbug
Just fyi, anyone who is allergic to latex should NOT use a product with avocado oil. The same chemical in latex that causes the allergy is also found in avocados and bananas.
This stuff rocks.. Chamois Glide (may be the same as Bodyglide) ... Ether way.. no chafing after 100+ and my shorts aren't a mess.
http://www.rei.com/product/799292
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I can't stop raving about That Butt Stuff--the product, and their customer service. I just got my second order today (I ordered 2 tubes, this time, since that was a large enough order to qualify for free shipping). With my first order they included 2 free mini sample tubes (I gave one to a friend and she also loves it) and a sample tube of their chain lube. With this order they included another sample tube, plus a sample of their homemade soap and a couple of vinyl stickers. I really think I might have to put one of those stickers on my car, just to freak people out. :p
I tried the Bliss and the male version they sell - you think the female version tingles???? Dial it up a LOT for the male version - I figured cream is cream is cream - I eventually became numb on the ride from the male version of the cream it was tingling so badly - I can't see why anyone would like that! This was back when I still had the Brooks though - and at least I didn't have any saddle pain that ride as I couldn't FEEL anything down there :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
Zoom-Zoom - the Butt Stuff sounds intriguing... have been using little packages of Chamois Butt'r but I don't want to keep using it longer than needed since it has parabens...
Plus I think it has petroleum oil...I didn't really want to risk damaging the chamois in my shorts...not at $100 a crack! (heh...crack :p)Quote:
Originally Posted by Catrin
I just put in an order for a tube of That Butt Stuff. It was between that or Chomper Body's Booty Balm. In the end, I decided on That Butt Stuff because I like the fact that it comes in a tube...which seems more "hygienic" to me than a jar where the contents might get contaminated with your hands constantly dipping in. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, though.
Good point - I can't order before the weekend but will do so at that time. Pity the "Bliss" stuff tingles overly much - it seemed to work but really - that amount of tingle on sensitive bits seems just too much. I can only assume that some people do like that, and more power to them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nscrbug
TBS tingles a tiny bit, but it's short-lived. I don't think there's much TTO in it, since it doesn't have that strong TTO scent that other products have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catrin
I also like the tube format, for the same reason. And I am a klutz. With my luck I would drop an open jar at someone's house before a group ride and coat a wall or two with chamois cream. :o
Ok. Newb alert...
What is the Butt'r for? I can't get anybody to answer me that in a serious answer.
Keeping your tush and girl bits more comfortable while riding. Some people don't need anything, others of us swear by some sort of lube or cream on any of the parts that come in pressurized contact with our saddles. Many of these products will inhibit bacteria and yeast, too--things that grow happily in such a dark, warm, moist environment.
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Originally Posted by zoom-zoom
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*Races to the nearest REI store*
:D heh.
Maybe I'm only laughing out loud because I've only had one cup of tea so far this morning, but this is like the LAST forum where I expect to see Beavis & Butthead references. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zoom-zoom