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That sounds like great news!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rocknrollgirl
Yes Yoda and even better we biked the trails behind my school on Tuesday and I pushed a bit and was ok. A little sore the next day, but really ok. A 1 on the pain scale. So maybe, maybe, this is the beginning of the end of all of this nonsense. ( come on ELBOW!!!)
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Originally Posted by Tiffany
I ran into a trainer at the Y last night (he heads the tri group) and he said that running on a treadmill with the incline set at 2% better mimics running outside. I'm going to try that and see how it feels.
I rented an aquajog belt tonight at the pool.
I asked a girl who was doing it what I am supposed to do - don't know yet if I did it right, but my HR was maybe 100.
So not very strenuous and I am wondering if it can do more for ya. A Tri Club mate trained almost exclusively in the water for a sub-4h marathon.
The weirdest thing was going to the loo after 40 mins - I felt like I had just landed after being on the moon. HEAVY.
Your hr will not be as high during pool running because of the bouancy of the water. From what I have read, it is min to min the same as running on land.
5.16 miles of fartlek for me today. Even though it's not been an ideal week for me training-wise, I added one more repeat, for a total of 6.
Does anyone know how temperature affects HR? I know I've read somewhere that your HR will go up on hot days to increase cooling. Mine didn't seem super-high today, though, even in the 83 degree heat (a good 10-15 degrees warmer than what it's been).
Today's theme on the beach: hot and windy. We've been under a tornado watch all day and I could see a little bit of lightning to the south, but actually the storm has mostly missed us. North of us a bit is getting rocked. There were still a surprising number of people out on the beach enjoying the warmth before the rain hit.
I read to use a 1% incline for the same reason. I think 2% would be too hard -- like always running uphill! 1% is imperceptible to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by indysteel
Did 4.3 miles today on the treadmill.
Have a good weekend, all!
Emily
Emily & Grog...actually I was told about "running" at 3mph from my hairdresser who has been running for years, but she alway said she was a slow runner. I don't think it was a good suggestion for me to take and actually use. I will be on the treadmill tomorrow and go for a faster pace. I will just keep pushing it up until whatever feels good and comfortable.
To be honest I thought that was odd because I walk at 3.8-3.9 mph. I thought maybe slower would help not to go out of breath, I will admit, it sure felt weird.
Enjoy the weekend!!! It will not be a very good cycling outside weekend here on LI, so I am will enjoy my treadmill run/walk routine.
~ JoAnn
Howdy Girls,
Well after my run on Thursday, I spiked a fever and was pretty sick Thursday night. Fever broke yesterday morning. I stayed on the couch all day. No other symptoms, a stomach ache and a fever. Weird.
So last night I mentioned that I wanted to go to the pool today. DH said NO! He has been sitting on me since I have been injured. He is smart, I need sitting on !
So he left for practice this morning and I decided to go out for a walk. He never said I could not go for a walk, right?
It is ok to walk after you have been sick, right? Heck they let people walk post surgery, right? And if I happened to spontaneously break out into a light jog while on this recovery walk, I could not be held responsible, right?;)
So out I went between the hellacious rain we are having. Did a very light walk run, came home, did all my weights, icing and having tea now.
Feeling good.
Ooooooo boy!! You're a handful. I'm glad it worked out OK though. Get lots of good recovery sleep today.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocknrollgirl
I am a handful. When I go to the doc they have to give me a specific list of exactly what I can and cannot do.
But being a handful keeps him on his toes, he can always tell when I am plotting to escape. He has to be quick to counter my justifications.
But alas after my huge burst of energy this morning, I am sleepy, so nap I must
YES! I just did a 2.5 hour trainer ride and then ran. It was my first brick of the season.
OMG... I ran a 9:30 MINUTE MILE! WOAH! I haven't run that fast... EVER!!!!
If you walk at 3.8-3.9, you can RUN at 4.5 probably. But do what feels best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo-n-NY
I know I walk at 4.6-5.0 on the treadmill. But the 5.0 is when I'm really working my speed walking form. Otherwise, I typically do 4.6-4.7 walking.
Running, I do 6.0-6.6. BUT I have been running for awhile. :)
Do what works for you! Don't underestimate your abilities though.
Wow KSH, looks like that brick was good for you!!!! Keep going!
Had a 6 km run with the Beginners' Group this morning, in the fog, on the trails. Quite pretty. And they're all doing really well!! It's nice to see people go further than they thought they could. (We did 5 min jog / 1 walk.)
My upper left foot has been gently hurting (like 2 or 3 out of 10 pain). I think I have aggravated my tendon a bit with a lot more speedwork than usual, including up hills, then kept going thinking it was my shoe that was causing me trouble. So I'll slack off the speed work and reduce running for the next few days. I want to be able to race next weekend.
well my legs were a bit tired on my MASSIVE 20 minutes longjog this morning.
Thank KSH. My you are a very fast walker - whew!!!!
Today my day for the treadmill. After the 5 minute warm up I ran 1 minute at 5mph. I had trouble finding a rhythm and was practiclly out of breath. I then walked 5 minutes, and my next run was better and went for 2 minutes. I did this 2 run; 5 walk until I hit 5 minutes. My last run I went for 3 minutes and I felt so much smoother. I think the 3 minute run might work well for my next workout with the 5 minute walks in between.
~ JoAnn
Congrats!!!! I would love to break under a 10:00 minute mile. I can run that, but no faster, so far. And I can't sustain 10:00 for an entire 3-5 mile run, though I have done as much as two miles at a time at that pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSH
Good for you -- and after a long trainer ride, too! You IM you! :D
Emily
12 miles yesterday :D Might I say ouch?! As slow as I think I'm going, it turns out I'm consistent when I average mph from my other long runs. I don't know why this one made me so sore though except for I did have a stress test the day before on a 16% incline :eek: I'm a wuss with the hills.
It's amazing how painful it is to go a "bit" faster than your comfort speed. I can run 10 minute miles for runs averaging 3 miles or so but when I try to do short bits of 9 minute miles, OUCH!!! It's fun but still, it makes me drool on myself :o
GOOD JOB!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo-n-NY
Very soon you will be telling us, "I ran my first mile today"! :D
Yea, for my longer runs... over 5-6 miles... I do a 5 minute walk and 2 minute run combo. I will typically average around a 11:30 minute mile doing this. It really makes my long runs tolerable.
HA! Well, I have only see that kind of pace on a treadmill before... and I did only run a mile. I just made my jello legs move as fast I could make them.Quote:
Originally Posted by emily_in_nc
For any run over a minute, outside... I'm around a 11-11:30 minute mile. I'm such a turtle.
I'm sure you will see improvement on your pace with distance very soon.
12 miles is ouch! I have been doing 10-11 miles one day a week and when I stop it's like all the pain just settles into my muscles. OUCH.Quote:
Originally Posted by teigyr
Yea, a bit faster can be a lot more effort. I find this with swimming and cycling as well. If I swim a 1:40, 100 yards I'm cruising and relaxed. I swim a 1:36, 100 yards and I am working REALLY HARD. Something that I can't sustain.
I sort of ran today. For a short while, on a treadmill while a bunch of PTs picked apart my running form. It was pretty educational. Now I want to stop running all together for a while, "fix" things and try again. Interestingly enough, my form gets better as I go a little faster. So *that's* my problem, I've been running too slowly all this time.:p:eek:
You know, not that I know what I'm talking about but during those brief bouts of going faster, it feels MUCH better. Maybe it's more natural when you go faster? What did they pick apart? Did their suggestions make sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahine
It's strange that we need to learn things that we should do naturally. Kinda.
Anyway, it sounds very productive :D
Well, the biggest thing is that I'm not getting enough push out the back of my stride on the right that is leading to some stability problems there. And I don't have enough stabilization in the frontal plane. What that means is that my pelvis rocks a fair bit if you watch me from the front or back. I already knew about that one and it's mostly only there when I'm tired, otherwise I can control it. The bad thing is that I'm running tired most of the time, definitely when I'm racing so I need to work more on it.
Teigyr: I remember a chiropracter I visited several years ago was horrified that I was jogging, and figured it was the root of all of my evil (OK, not ALL of it!). But he said that he always recommends running full out because it is less stressful on the body, and then walk fast until heart rate drops to a certain point, and sprint fast again until you can't go further... continuing the cycle for whatever period of time you like. I tried it short term, but like the mind-losing cadence of jogging much better. Maybe there's something to that, though?
Whether fast running or slow running is better really depends on the persons movement patterns. Usually I'm just as good running slowly as fast but right now because I'm tired and sore it's easier for me to compensate and change my form to avoid weight bearing in certain ways that are sore. Make me run fast and I kick in more stabilizing muscles and don't have time to compensate.
A lot of runners in the middle of the field get worse when they run fast because it emphasizes their form faults.
A lot of people have worse walking faults than they do running because they get lazy when they are walking and don't engage their stabilizing muscles as much.
I did 2 hours and 15 minutes... 12 miles... at a 11:22 minute mile pace this morning. I did that was a 5 minute walk, 2 minute run combo. So for each mile I run only 2 minutes of it.
Oh, the pain. It was a hard one on my body today.
*Limps away*
70 minutes, 6.4 miles on the treadmill... yuck.
Longest run to date! Felt OK cuz I did it slower than I might have run a 5 miler. BUT... did in my calves! I was supposed to swim 45 minutes following, and I only made it 25 before I had to give up due to the calve cramping constantly. OK... got a ways to go but improving all the time!!!!
Wahine: That's interesting, and I know it is true for me -- I'm all over the place chugging along when I'm tired. I feel like I have "good" form (what do I know?:p) for the first 2 miles out -- abs tight, straightened up. But on the way back I KNOW I'm hunched over and shuffling. It's hard to concentrate on form when you can barely breathe! ;)
Jes
I am slowly getting back into my running and trying to build a base.
Ran today 3 min run/2 min walk for 4 miles and kept my HR under 155.
So far so good. Though had to detour on the way home. The trail was a slick sheet of ice.
By the way -- great job on everyone's part!
KSH: You're doing awesome... I will have to see what it feels like to walk that fast! Sounds like you are flying, not walking! Hope you are healing after the 12.5!
Well, I finally had a really crappy run today. Seems like one thing after another went wrong. A goldfinch flew into one of our windows right before I left the house. It died immediately, which made me very sad (I love birds). I walked, then ran, a few laps on our trails (.56 mile each lap), then started getting really hot since I was wearing a wicking top with a zip fleece over it, and a wool watch cap, and tights (temp was upper 40s, and I am a cold-weather weenie). I was attempting to use a stopwatch to measure my pace for each lap, and I got flustered since I needed to stop and remove layers, wasn't sure how to do the stopwatch so it wouldn't count that time.
On the next lap, I got junk in my shoe (little pieces of sticks and leaves), and finally had to take it off and dump it out, so I ditched the stopwatch since I'd now completely screwed it up, and it was stressing me out. I got to the 6th lap and my lower back started hurting on one side, and I couldn't stretch away the pain, so I just turned around and walked to my house, then dissolved on my porch steps in tears.
It had been a rough week at work, a lot of pressure and stress, and I guess everything just got to me. Running had been my "escape" from the craziness at work, so when it went badly too, I guess I just lost it and felt like a big failure. I am feeling fine now. A beer, some food, and a hug from my DH helped! :D
So, I only managed about 3.5 miles total today. This is the first week my mileage has been less than the week before. Oh well -- I guess I was due a sucky run after so many good ones. It really was a beautiful day out; I wish I could have enjoyed it more.
Emily
Hey Emily... you did good to get 3.5 miles in. Sounds like you needed to just go out and run... sans stopwatch, etc. Just go run to feel good. Ya know?
Maybe with all the stress you have been having a good cry is just what you needed at the end of today's run.?
Ladies:
This thread has been longer this week than most weeks.
You're all running and running your best, under the conditions at least. This is really wonderful!
It has been a good one. Let's keep it going.
Emily,
I agree with K-ditch the watch and just relaxa nd enjoy the run, especially after a crazy week . If I am trail running, I only run for time anyway.
I work with a young woman that is a really good runner, and she ONLY runs for time. She knows how far she can go in an hour on an average run, so she never tracks her distance. She said to me that she does not want to get in to the pattern of feeling badly about her runs if she does not go fast enough or far enough. I like that.
RnRgirl, that's a good idea. If I have no expectations in my long run, I am thrilled that I did it. The minute I start thinking what I *should* be doing, I feel like I'm doing less even though if I look at it when I get home, I'm running the way I usually run.
There were no tracks available yesterday so I did my track run on a treadmill. It was good in that I could feel the pace I wanted because I just set the treadmill to it. It was bad in that there was no breeze and I didn't have that "stopping to see if I did it in the right time" experience. I LIKE that experience though because I'm bad at pacing, usually I go a bit faster than I should. The greatest thing though is I'm finally to the point where my muscles are sore. It's not feet or joints or blisters anymore. Yay!!!
And what IS it about that 12 mile mark? I can't wait to get to 13 to make the 12 mile demon go away.
awe Emily...I am sorry your run didn't turn out as you would have liked and you are going through a stressful time. Remember what John Bingham says, you will have bad runs mixed with the good ones. Not his exact words, but I know you know what I mean. Your next run will be better.
chins up :)
~ JoAnn
Thanks KSH, I am taking it slow and on my own little time line if I can call it that. Anyway, when I do run my first mile, it will be very exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSH
Your routine for longer miles of a walk/ run sounds like a very good one and something I plan to keep in mind.
~ JoAnn
Thanks for the kind words, ladies! Yeah, I need to lighten up on myself, and I normally do just run for time on my trail runs, but my DH suggested the stopwatch so I could pace myself for longer runs (i.e., not start off at a pace I couldn't maintain). It may work for him, but I think it just stresses me out!
I was in good spirits today, though, and don't fault myself for having a bad day yesterday. I'm a typical first-born, type A, high achiever sort, so I am way too hard on myself. Need to get over that!
I am looking forward to tomorrow's run. :)
Emily