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While I certainly appreciate the poetic justice of this approach :p , it also strikes me as vigilante justice and as such a little beyond the pale :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by TriMom217
All the same, it really sucks that someone would do something like this. It's always hard to accept that others are dishonest.
Sorry it happened.
Wait one minute, was she on top of a mountain? with gravel roads down? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by TriMom217
[QUOTE=TriMom217;269275]Something like this happened on another forum that I frequent only it was a much more expensive item, a complete bike. The seller had all the usual excuses, much like yours. Well, some local posters took matters into their own hands and paid her a visit. They retrieved the bike and shipped it to it's new and rightful owner, at their own cost.
I like that! Good for them- that person will maybe think twice before scamming someone again. However, knowing how those people work sometimes, it's lucky the bike even existed.
vickie
Who's up for a TE vacation/knicker recovery trip to New Mexico?
And I bet it wasn't locked in the trunk of her car either. And she probably wasn't a prisoner of the person lending her a computer. (For email ONLY)Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra
Maybe it should be a rescue trip????
She doesn't have internet access, only e-mail. Yep, that makes a whole lot of sense. Methinks the damsel in distress inhaled too many fumes whilst locked in the trunk.
Saddle up gals, we must rescue her. :D Road trip :D
Giddyup! Hi Ho Ranger..(insert lone ranger music)
TE gals always get thier man..oh hang on..wrong series..Te Gals always get thier stuff..
Sending air slaps to the evil person..:mad:
C
Not to give another excuse, or but in where my .02 doesn;t belong, but I know with a lot of work computers it is only intranet. that means only email so that the employees don't goof off to much.
My Nov/Dec SS was in NM...I hope it's not her! I wouldn't wanted to have spent all that money on someone who scammed another lady on here!
I can't believe someone did that. The stories are so funny too! Even if certain internet things are restricted, there are internet cafes, right? And she DID post here at TE.
How long is the gravel road? I used to live on a dirt road that I could ride on (on my mtn bike) or walk my road bike. I used to carry my bike when there was snow. Our road as about a mile but it wasn't too bad.
I like NM.
Hey, wait. Is she anywhere near ROSWELL?? Maybe there are explanations beyond our comprehension though I want to believe :rolleyes:
Hey, I'm at work and goofing off right now :DQuote:
Originally Posted by madscot13
Most companies give you time access for simple things like e-mail, booking a flight. I can't go online while I'm actualy working but can log on at lunch or a break. I.M. is a big no no, and many sites are blocked like I can't surf e-bay but can get on Craigs. Go figure.
But if she knew this order was going on one would think she's make arrangements....unless she was locked in a trunk :cool:
Life happens and sometimes things get crazed but one would expect an explanation of the delay.
Hey... I live in NM, you can all stay with me!:D ...or I could get it myself (although I am small, I pack a lot of energy). So how many visitors should I count on?
She said she was using a friend's computer and he told her she could only check her email, not visit any websites, but she was going to see if he would take her to the PO sometime during the week. That's where Sandra got the kidnapped idea. Maybe we could form a TE rescue misson!Quote:
Originally Posted by madscot13
wow. I thought the person that we are all talking about posted HER SIDE to the story? or is this yet another transaction gone south?
(sorry for the aspersion, Sandra)
correction; this IS another transaction. what a bummer! I wanna know too!
(there are enough clues in this thread to figure it out...)
Yup.
The same person bought from the same person again? I'm clueless as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimitabby
No. Uforgot bought from a newish TE'er and did not receive her article. Cannot contact the person to get her money back either, despite many attempts and many excuses...
The first one was solved very amicably. It was due to miscommunication--my assumption of no return, which I should have clearlystated in my FS post. Lesson learned
This is one an entirely different situation. Poor Claudia. Circumstances aside, why would anyone post anything FS if they didn't have the ability to follow through?
there are lots of people that can't get it together long enough to take a walk to the post office. I'm only saying that on the premise that we're assuming the person meant well originally.
I met a curious person here on TE myself. She posted a few times from Holland and wanted someone to buy her a buff. I could never figure out why she couldn't pay herself, but what the heck...So I volunteered. She sent me enough euros to cover it, and I bought it for her and mailed it. then she wanted another buff, so we did the same thing.
I didn't mind getting the euros, i use them on my trips to Italy. she sent them 1 envelope with one 20 euro bill in it at a time. She wrote me some nice emails, it all seemed pretty reasonable.
Then after all the bills and packages went through the mail okay, she wrote me again. It seems she wanted to rebuild a bike and wanted to buy american parts.
She wanted bank account numbers!!!!!! I said, sorry, you can't have that.
and i never heard from "her" again.
It was so odd.
I have just read this whole thread through and I am so sorry this happened to a fellow TE'r. I am clueless as to who this person is (was?) but hope she never shows her face here again. What a rotten thing to do!
Apparently I am an idiot! :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by divingbiker
I am dying to know who it is...not because I care who it is, but because I now feel so dumb for not being able to figure it out. :o
me too, starfish, I don't think I read enough of the right posts to get it yet. There was something about pepper spray, so I went back and read the dog chasings posts, but still didn't get it.
If uforgot wants to put together a posse to bust some heads, though, I'm in.
If whoever it is no longer has the item, or for whatever reason cannot ship it, they need to be refunding some money.
vickie
Go back in the For Sale forum, and find the one that mentions New Mexico in the first sentence... I guess that's the one, right?
If you want to figure out who it was, go back in the FS forum and look for items for about $35. That'll get you there.
I've never had any interaction with that person, but I'm sorry you got took, Uforgot!
it's not someone that posts a lot. I didn't even recognize her name.
ok, I got it. I didn't have the threads going back far enough.
vickie
Found it - never heard of her/him/it....:mad:
Hint #2 is somewhere it's mentioned the number of times she posted so click on members list, scroll through the pages of people registered but never posted, find the person who's posted that many times ... and dissapeared at about that time .... and their posts were all on the FS thread .....Quote:
Originally Posted by GLC1968
But this is not to "out" anyone, she might really be locked in a trunk :eek: just be careful out there :cool:
Are we up to $10.75 worth of fun?
I had to search on "$35 New Mexico" to find it. LOL.
Never heard of her, either. Thank goodness no one else got sucked in. She was selling a lot of stuff.
okaaay... here comes the party pooper... :rolleyes:
I'm a bit uncomfortable with this whole discussion. I'm really sorry this happened to you, uforgot, and I surely understand why you're pissed off, but I wish we could just leave it at that. I glanced at the other posts by this person, and he/she sounded like a legit cyclist, and I can't help feeling that maybe something stupid happened, and she got stuck making bad excuses.
Some of my family are the "lost in space"-types who mean well but are TERRIBLE at keeping appointments (one of them even does live up in the woods with no internet access), so I keep thinking she might just be really really ditsy, maybe very young? but not necessarily a terrible person.
Thanks LPH...
Regardless of circumstances, the person needs to refund the money, or at least communicate. That is not too much to ask.
vickie
LPH - I kind of thought the same thing since even her original post seemed to indicate that she anticipated some trouble shipping things.
That said, the transaction did take place all the way back in October and additionally, it's been over a month since she last posted here. If she couldn't get it shipped out by now, she could at least have returned the money....or emailed Uforgot.
I agree that it's a transaction that turned badly, and I feel badly for UForgot, and I also think (of course!) that the original seller should right the wrongs.
All of us will be warned not to make cash purchases from people we don't know very well, but to pay through credit card paypal instead so the charge can be reversed if the transaction goes bad.
Can we leave it at that now? I hate to interrupt the accumulation of "fun" but I don't like collective attacks, especially when the other party is not there to defend herself.
I really don't want to extand the discussion but I do have a question.....I also thought that if you used paypal that you were ok, that you could get your money back. But I thought that uforgot did that and it was ruled in her favor, BUT that she STILL was not able to get her money because there was no money in the seller's account.
This definately challanges my confidence in safety net of using paypal for such transactions.
Is this true, you still didn't get your money back? I think this is good information for us to know.
I know I had to challange a transaction this fall, but the seller did come through, just two weeks delayed. I put a challange into paypal and they were examing it. But the seller sent the items and apologized for the delay.
Silver -
It's true...if the seller pulls the money from the account, the buyer cannot get it back.
From the other side of it: My husband sold a laptop on ebay using paypal. He received the money from the buyer in his paypal account, so he boxed the laptop up and dropped it off at our local FedEx place. He then sent an email to the buyer with the tracking #. That same evening, he got an email from either ebay or paypal (I forget which) telling him that that the buyer was under investigation for something. My huband quickly checked is paypal account, and sure enough...the money the guy had sent had been pulled out! AFTER he got the tracking #! My husband immediately called the FedEx place and the driver had not yet picked up the package for shipment, so he was able to get it back. He would have just sent a laptop to some guy for free. :eek:
Now, when he sells a big ticket item, he tells the seller that he won't ship until the payment CLEARS paypal (and he moves the $ to our bank account). It protects the seller...but yes, it can make a buyer nervous.
I don't know how this is different if a person uses a credit card through paypal. In the above case, it was a cash transaction.
No, I did not get my money back. If I had used a credit card through paypal I could have taken the issue up with my cc company. I had paypal funds, so I used those. If the seller doesn't have anything in their account, or closes it, then they can't recover the funds. They indicated that there was some kind of alert on her account so if funds ever do become available, they will credit my account.
I think that from now on I'll use a credit card, double protection, or single if you consider that paypal said "okay, you win, you can have your money back. Oops! No money there and nothing we can do about it!"
Well I may be out of $$. Paid through paypal. Looking at the user agreement, Paypal makes it look like you are protected to $200 for basic and $2000 for premium whatever. But there is a section that says and in one lone sentence, "the fund must be available in the sellers account."
So the $200 protection or the $2,000 protection is totally meaningless and misleading. They do go to great extent when its $200 or $2000. If the fund isn't in the seller's account, too bad.
Well, the guy I purchased the item had 135 points with 98% rating. Then I find that he has several really bad negatives. how did he get the 98%?? I'm not sure how they calculated the percentages.
Bad day all around... getting honked at by an irate driver because I don't mash the gas pedal to the floor on the highway transition. And again on the surface street when the light turned green... Don't they know its not a race.
just coming to realization that I been ripped off by more than $100...
Sorry to steal the thread from uforgot.
so if you are e-bay seller make sure high $$ item has insurance and tracking number pay out of your own pocket even if you have to. and for the buyer, not sure what you can do???
not so smilingcat
Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry. That is quite a bit to lose! As for the 98%, I figure for every negative, there are three people who were unhappy but didn't want retaliatory feedback. Personally, I wouldn't bid on something over $10 if someone had 98%. Since 1998, the only time I wasn't careful was on the item this thread is about. I have 908 fb comments, and I have never been "taken" on ebay. Here are my personal rules.
1. On big ticket stuff, I try to stay at 99.8% and above. I read all feedback first. So far, I have not had any problems on ebay.
2. If he has any problems as a seller, I may buy something if it's not expensive, and it wouldn't be a problem if the deal fell through. Sometimes they have bad feedback because they only had 50 transactions and didn't pay for one as a buyer. Or their product is good, but shipping is slow. Make sure you read those comments.
3. If they leave nasty comments in feedback to others I pass. Sometimes a seller sincerely tries to make it right, and you can tell.
4. If they come across in their auction description as nasty and rude I pass. You know, things like "Don't bother bidding if you can't pay", etc.
5. Look at the pics. You can tell if someone takes care of their stuff or not. One time I saw an ad for a couch and there was laundry and toys all over it. Or you will see a bike in a garage and there is crap all around. I don't go there.
6. Use a credit card. I know I learned this one from Sandra when she bought her last mixte. She doubly protected herself and I thought, "now THAT'S a good idea".
Why don't you check with your Post Office to see if you can do something about it as mail fraud? I also think that if the seller has buyer protection, (mine didn't, something else I would check for on big ticket items) paypal will refund the money from their own pockets.
Of course, it's kind of laughable that I'm giving advice when I'm the one that started this thread!:rolleyes:
As for the highjack, I kind of like this thread turning to online buying safety. That's really helpful to others. I honestly let my guard down because it was TE, but you know what? I will still continue to trust, whereas I don't on ebay. I've made several purchases on the TE for sale thread, and all (but one) were good.