Yep, that is it.
The thread on the HRM strap is here.
http://forums.motionbased.com/smf/in...cseen#msg39907
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Yep, that is it.
The thread on the HRM strap is here.
http://forums.motionbased.com/smf/in...cseen#msg39907
Cool, thanks.... off to ponder.Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
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I have a Forerunner 305 with cadence and hrm. I am happy with it. I use it for relative comparison of my own performance and don't worry about absolute data. I use a polar hrm bike mount to mount the FR on my road bike. I wear it on my wrist when on the mtb. I use it for skiing, etc.
Garmin is not very Mac friendly. To track my workouts, I use Ascent.
http://www.montebellosoftware.com/index.html
There is also a Garmin beta version of gps unit software updater. You will need to search the garmin site. It worked for me.
Best of geekiness,
sarah
It's here! It's here! It's here! (DH wants one now, too!) His and hers 305s, just like Kelownagirl! :D
Alex
Once again, I've caved into TE peer pressure. :o
My Garmin Edge 305 arrives some time next week.
Deanna, you are so weak. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I'm no superhero, that's for sure. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
I am not a Costco member, but considering becoming one. How much is the bundle at Costco?
And would anyone be so kind to tell me which of the Edges on amazon would be the right link to send a hint to someone? I am not seeing the difference in the $379 and $319 list price, there must be something! Thanks. :)
FYI, you do not have to be a Costco member to order from Costco online. You pay a little bit higher percentage if you are not a member, but if you are not going to shop there much, it may be worth it.
They come 3 different ways - 1) the Garmin with a HR monitor and a speed/cadence monitor 2) the Garmin with the speed/cadence monitor and 3) the Garmin with the HR monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama
The Garmin is the same in all 3 packages, just the accessories are different. If you get the one that only has the speed/cadence monitor you can add a HR monitor later.
I just looked on Amazon and it looks like the one that has a $379 list price (but is actually cheaper than the other one!) does not have the speed/cadence sensor. If you scroll through the description part there is a small section 'What is in the box' that will help. They do not make it clear at all.
The Edge 305 + HR and Cadance is currently listed at $274.49 on Amazon ( you have to click to see the price).
Just FYI:D :D
Looks like it (Edge 305+HRM+Cadence) is 269.99 at Costco
the same is 274.49 at amazon:
the model without the cadence sensor is 244.92
Just got mine last night... WAY cool to be able to have accumulated elevation as a field. :):):)
Anne
P.S.,
For those of you that have just ordered an Edge, you might want to have a couple of spare 2016 batteries around (the round ones slightly smaller than a nickel.) The battery in my HRM was dead when I got it and the one in the cadence sensor was too weak to function (though it lit up the lights on reset.) My first ride out with it was to get batteries, with zip ties hanging off my bike. But it tracked my elevation gain. :D
So much nicer than the forerunner!
Anne
Thanks everyone!! I want the one that does it all but I couldn't figure it out. Maybe I shouldn't try to decipher this stuff half asleep. :D
I ordered mine from Costco yesterday. Came to $294.?? with tax. It's advertised as the Garmin Edge 305 combo and has heart rate and cadence. I'm a member and don't know if that effects the price. BikerHenQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama
Well, I broke down and bought one too..... at this price I just couldn't say no! :rolleyes:
Helped that my extended family had another graduation party for me yesterday, so I was able to justify using some of my haul from that to buy myself another toy that I TOTALLY didn't need :D
Looking forward to using it on my first century in 2 weeks!
My birthday is next week, and I was just visiting my BF -- and noticed the Garmin rebate form on his desktop... maybe I can join in this conversation in a week!:D
My birthday isn't for another month but I just ordered one. :o
I found a great deal on Amazon, and with the $75 PowerBar rebate it comes in around $175. Sweeeet.
Before you buy the 305, check out the newer models!
The REI price is $399.00! I like ordering from REI because of their replacement policy...they just gave me a brand new replacement tent on a 2 year old tent! with NO hassle! But the price on Amazon is soooo much better.... If you get a lemon from Amazon would you have to deal with someone there or would you just go through Garmin, anyone know?
I've dealt directly with Garmin but you should read the Garmin site for the best source of info. Register the product on their warranty page.
I love my Garmin! I use the same one on both my single road bike and the back of the tandem (while Dh has his own on the front of the tandem).
Someone mentioned it was like a guilty pleasure, since she doesn't go very fast, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. It tells you how many miles you've gone, your cadence, how long you've been riding, pauses the timer when you stop if you program it to, etc. Why should only "fast" people get to know all that information? ;)
At a rest stop on the century we did a week ago, Dh said he was asked why we had two computers on the bike. Why does the stoker (me) need a computer? Hello? Do I not get to know how far we've gone and still have to go? Do I not get to know how fast we're going? Should I have to ask Dh all this information every time I want to know it ... or just stay in the dark wondering? We also use it to try to stay at a certain cadence. Dh will say "let's try to keep it at 85 cadence" or "let's try to stay at 25 mph" ... and I can watch my computer and know how hard I need to pedal. Also, as the official directions giver on the century, I was able to know when our next turn was coming up based on how many miles we had gone, and let Dh know.
When I switch mine from one bike to the other, I have to reset it to read the cadence differently, but that's easy.
GET ONE!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Eh, I looked at the 605 & the 705, but it'll be a few weeks before they come out & then there are bound to be software quirks to work out. And I hate paying top dollar for electronics.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernBelle
I can get it to display while I ride? perverse,yes? AND I can get it to show up as a graph that is barely readable vs elevation in GTC. Is there any way to get the data in tablular form. I know there's a lot of data in there but it doesn't seem all that easy to find istructions(Ha) on how to retrieve it.
Suggestions(other than that I am braindead in retirement:) )are welcome!
Are you using Garmin Training Center or MotionBased? I find the info easier to find and understand on MotionBased.
Yes, you can display it and NO, it's not perverse (Silver says "obsessive, but not perverse":D)Quote:
Originally Posted by easterbird
I think this is what you're trying to do:
Hit MODE until you come to Main Menu
Hit SETTINGS /enter
Hit DATA FIELDS/enter
Choose the number of BIKE COMPUTER you want to program
Hit enter...I choose 8 fields here, but this makes all 8 smaller to read
Choose your fields...GRADE is one of the fields you can choose.
Motionbased is awfully cool. I didn't see the value at first, but now I'm hooked.
Beware of "TMI" with the Garmin display.
Sure, you can display 8 fields, but can you safely *read* 8 fields while you're riding down the road?
I used to have a bunch of fields open, but found I spent too much time looking at the display and not enough time looking at the road! :eek: I've whittled it down to - I think - 5: Speed, distance, cadence, HR, and Time of Day. It's still too much, really, but I'm a junkie and can't give up any more! I keep extra displays of all those cool things I'd LIKE to know on the 2nd computer display: average speed; ride time; grade; and something else I forget. I toggle b't the 2 when I can safely do so or at stops.
I have been viewing it as I ride (that's what I meant about perverse:D ); however, I can't find out how to look at the % grade data in a table in either MB or GTC. I'm very new to this so may have missed it but I haven't found either site to be (my kind of) intuitive.
On the idea of too many screens(8 or whatever). I am using five but still had a problem because I have fine long distance but poor close distance. I bought a pair of those plastic magnifer thingies made to put on sunglasses(little half moons really that adhere via a little water and surface tension) and use ONE of them in my goggles for my right eye to be able to easily read the computer.Doesn't impact looking up the road or in my mirror:)
I was just playing with motionbased and didn't see anything that showed maximum grade except the charts
Max grade is found on MotionBased by clicking on elevation on the left side and in the center column column it gives max % grade for both ascent and descent.
As far as the display on the unit, you have 2 pages of display and can put 8 things on each page. It's easy to toggle back and forth using the arrow keys on the side of the unit. So you can just put 3 or 4 things on each page.
Thanks SB - I knew I had seen it before...right before my eyes:(
Here's mine from the Hilly Hundred
Ascent Grade Max 18.7
Descent Grade Max -16.8
Maybe you should keep that triple!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Silver
You people are rotten! Rotten, I tell you!! :p I have been doing some looking around for a new bike computer, I love my wireless Cateye, but wanted something more. Did some research into the Garmin 305 and ended up picked one up last night. It so appeals to the numbers geek in me! I had a blast with it on this morning's ride.
So thanks for helping me spend some money. But hey, its for the bike, so its all good!
If you're looking for more junk to hang off your handlebars, the Adventure Cycling catalog has a simple bubble level that displays grade in real time. It's bound to be way more accurate than any of the electronic gizmos, whether they use a barometric pressure altimeter or simply rely on GPS data. They're notoriously inaccurate on altitude, although once you import the data into your computer, some of the software will correct the altitude readings against known points on your route.
I have to say, the new Edge models are very tempting. It would be really cool to have access to road maps like we do on the motorized-vehicle GPS units.
DH and I both have Garmins and our data is remarkably similar when we ride together. (Well, except that he goes faster. :) We upload to Motionbased and find the elevations and grade info pretty darn accurate. We ride the same routes a lot and the info is usually the same every time.
have you noticed that the grade showing on the edge as you ride is very different from what uploads? 22% becomes 16%. 20-22 was probably closer because all other 16% I can ride but could NOT on that one!
What about difference in HR? On the edge before upload, it reads 140(I was pushing like crazy the whole way and I am almost 60). Upload shows 130. This happens often. Does anyone know why? What about MB gravity? Do you use it? I stopped applying it because it adds about 200-500' depending on ride.
I don't use the correction for elevation. As discussed somewhere around here, the elevation is relative to the unit doing the recording. So I just use what I get inside of training center and use it.
As for the "instantaneous % grade", it is just that. The GPS in the Garmin is not good for vertical resolution so it also uses barometric pressure. But...every measurement that the GPS takes has a range of error. E.g., a good satellite lock is still +/- 18m or so.
So those instantaneous grades...I look at it this way....when I read out the % grade it is calculated based on the last two data points (ok, not quite the last two, but....). Either of those data points could be in error. When I'm looking at % grades, then, I tend to perform rolling averages in my head. Did the GPS hold the 20% or was it followed by a 3%?
Of course, once imported, it does get smoothed out, even if you turn smoothing off. I have one hill that reads in TC as 10%. It is very short and very steep--trust me, that bump is not just 10%--10% does not require standing in my lowest gear. In the end it is all relative and the resolution of the PC isn't the same as land. Those sharp bumps can just disappear.
Also note that when you get below a certain speed it quits recording. Which on extreme grades is a possibility. :p
Unless the software is much different from the ForeRunner's, you should be able to select in your preferences whether or not the unit stops recording when you're "stopped." It's actually under the Training Assistant preferences, which is a weird place for it. Select Auto Pause/Lap and you can edit whether or not you want the unit to stop recording when you're stopped, and if so, how slow you must be going before it decides you've stopped.
Ignore this if the Edge doesn't work the same way as the ForeRunner, but it sure sounds like that's what you've got going on.
Also, there are several things I don't like about SportTracks, but one neat feature it has is that it separates your stopped time (which you can set in the software preferences there) and calculates your average moving pace/speed. I wind up downloading my data into four different places (TC for Windoze, TC for Mac, SportTracks and MB) which is utterly ridiculous given that I'm not actually a serious athlete at all :rolleyes: - but it's fun!
MB gives stopped time too!?