Thanks for your input..and yes we do have a refrigerator at work and I went to the grocery store nexto door and bought some multigrain bars , some fruit and baby carrots , yogurt and jell-o to snack on in between meals.
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Personally a higher protein content helps keep me satiated between meals. Greek yogurt with 8+ g of protein is good. Two eggs is really good. Man those will keep you full for hours! (I learned that the hard way on an 85 mile ride-- wasn't hungry for four full hours even though I was riding hard)
I am allergic to peanuts, and I've never been able to stomach the other butters, like almond, cashew, sunflower seed, etc. Something about it being too similar to peanut butter puts my instincts on high alert and I can't eat them.
I eat cashews and almonds straight though.
This conversation is great, because it's something I've been obsessively worrying about. I've dropped 14 pounds so far this season, with calorie counting, riding, cardio on off days, and now I'm picking up weights for strength and resistance training - but I don't want to be big and bulky, just strong and lean, and not fat. I'm *technically* just fine, but I still feel bigger than I want to be, you know? But I want to 1) avoid over eating post ride and 2) properly recover post ride for muscle building for performance (but not bulk).
I've been thinking I should get a trainer for a couple sessions, despite not racing or anything yet. I'd like to get to a point that I could say "yes, here is my fitness baseline, and now I can push myself to much more productivity for racing" (or endurance, or whatever).
I do notice that I'm not as ravenous post ride as I was at the start of the season. I've been eating things like fish and veggies, not so much with the white carbs (except for sushi today! NOM!) and cutting down on the beer and salty foods. Still - I'd like to feel strong and raring to go each time I get on my bike, and I don't always feel like that...partly because I am uncertain about the food in/energy out equation, and partly because I forget, early on the ride, that I love the feeling of riding.
I lost a lot of weight when I first started riding and was tracking faithfully on weight watchers. I would sometimes have an after-ride mocha but would not eat pastries, ice cream etc. I was only riding about 15-25 miles most of the time and didn't need to refuel too much on the rides.
Now I ride further and like Mimi said, am often really hungry even on days I don't ride. It's a balancing act. I eat extra if I know I'm going to ride a long way on consecutive days, and I'm still really hungry on the next day.
So I can't seem to get rid of 5 lbs that crept back on, but I'm not actually gaining weight back even though I'm not quite as careful about tracking.
Chatnoire, I am just like you; in my head I start thinking I'm reacting to walnut or almond butter, so I stopped eating it! I *do* use soy nut butter, but only a certain brand, called Simple Foods. It's made locally here in MA, but you can order it on line. It's made my life a lot easier when I have to take a sandwich on a ride. And, it tastes good. I eat a lot of nuts, though, and they really have helped me maintain my weight loss.
I also lost a lot of weight when I started riding. I had been thin, at the same weight for many years, when I started gaining and getting burned out on the exercise I was doing previously about 2 years before I started riding. I wasn't huge, but about 15-20 pounds heavier than I am now. It was not boding well for the future. I've been able to maintain this for 10+ years, but it's only been recently that I've gotten below my "set point" and I seem to have reset my body by changing my eating habits a bit. For me, it's all about upping the protein and limiting the carbs, especially white flour products. I won't say I never eat it, but, it's pretty limited.
I have not been on here in AGES and I pop on this morning and see a dragging out of one of my old threads. It made me smile.
So I will update. I am not longer racing off road triathlons. I am now raing on the road and have moved up to the half ironman distance. My hubs and I just did Mooseman 70.3 two weeks ago. Our first mdot race and his first 70.3
While we trained together this winter, he lost 10 pounds that he did not need to lose and I gained 3. HA! I love being a girl.
Those few pounds hung around all winter and then disappeared after the race. Go figure.
I think it is even harder to stay on the straight and narrow now that I have moved up to this distance. The long rides and runs make me very hungry. We were very careful this winter to refuel with healthy food.
So four years later...I still have no answers! I shudder to think what will happen to the beast that is my appetite if i make the next step up to a full.
I never looked at the original date on the thread. Funny that it was 5 years old! :)
Yeah, that monster of an appetite gets hard to deal with while training for a full (for me). You have to eat SO MUCH fruits and veggies to fill up and get enough calories (and sometimes all that eating gets exhausting). Why is it so much easier to fill up on calories with crap food? And when I eat healthy I'm hungry every hour or two. ;) C'est la vie!
Congrats on Mooseman! Way to go you two!! :)
So how do glycogen, calories, fat and muscle work together? How do you know if you depleting muscle mass or fat? Does oxygen play a role in this as well?
Great topic.