Silver,
Maybe I'm being paranoid, but you also don't want people to think it's there for public use.
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Silver,
Maybe I'm being paranoid, but you also don't want people to think it's there for public use.
Hey Kit love your new pic. Did you draw that yourself????
The part about kids reminds me of a day a women abused me at a shopping mall restroom for having my then four year old with me. I mean get over yourself the restrooms do have doors and there is no way in hell Im letting my four year old go to a men's restroom by himself. I do understand about the change rooms though.
My club has an area right where you come into the locker room that is called the family changing area. It is off to the right and sort of open. There are lockers in there. It is in both men and woman's locker rooms. This was added when they remodeled and people had complained loudly about older kids of opposite gender, staring. No boys over 3 years allowed in the woman's locker room.
I remember feeling weird when I let my kids go and shower in the locker room alone at one of the clubs I worked at, when they were like 10 and 7. But, we were going somewhere afterwards, couldn't go home to shower. They had been in there so long, I got concerned, so when the first man came out that I knew, it happened to be their school superintendent. I asked him to go back in and check on them. He said they were busy blowing their hair dry! Boy, were they pissed at me.
Wouldn't it be more productive to voice the need to management for family changing rooms, than to chew a new a**hole on the woman who is just trying to protect her child? Keep in mind that the emotional scars held by child that was assualted in a public changing room, restroom, etc. would run a lot deeper that the ones you may sustain because your goodies were checked out by a little kid.
Absolutely. What we consider scolding can be really traumatic- this kid is having a total stranger raise her voice at him for just acting on his (or her!) natural curiosity.
By the same token, the nudist bath house/sauna I go to over the summer is very liberal that way... Kids certainly get an eyeful but after a while it loses a lot of its novelty after parents say "Well, that's what people look like without clothes on... we all look basically the same..."
And what actually really gets me is how open and understanding people can be. Year before last there was a girl there with a foot and a half spiked mohawk (pink, she was cute:) ) going to the nude sauna, had lots and lots of pierces- more than I do- and had a little boy, maybe 5 or 6 ask her about them. She was very straightforward and honest, not shy or taken aback. His mom was *mortified* that he asked, but very relieved at Mohawk's response.
Do not walk into the gym throw your stuff on a treadmill to reserve it, then disappear for 30 minutes.
Do not hang on equipment and/or weight benches you're not using while talking to someone for 30 minutes.
Do not sit on the bench while completely nekkid. The bench isn't clean, I don't think you are clean, and now I really don't want to even set my gym bag down on the bench on the outline of your bum. :eek:
...eww. why sit on the bench completely nekkid anyway? the bench is probably dirtier than their bum (statistically and bacteriologically speaking) but who *knows* what kinda creepies are lurking there?
Queen, I agree, but I remember trying to control a two year old while getting myself out of a wet swimsuit after "mommy and me" swim class and it was next to impossible. Luckily, by the time he was old enough for it to be an issue, the Y built family changing rooms.
The club I belong to now doesn't allow kids under 16 at all...
How about those lovely people who leave big gobs of sweat on the machines for the next user. :eek:
It's not the two year old boys, or even the four year olds. It's when they are 7 or 8. And yes its natural that they are curious... but go look at your mom, not me please!
V.
Whoa, after reading this thread, I am glad I did not re-join my gym! ;) I agree with most of the comments, but here's one more that I haven't seen yet. When you are there to workout, you don't necessarily have time to dawdle! What about friends/aquaintances you see who want to do nothing but chat?! That used to drive me crazy. I would try and be polite, but yikes! Are you there to socialize or to get a workout?
Annie
Yep. My experience was with boys WAY too old to be in there, 8-10.
I hate to be the one to take it out of the locker room and into the gym
but what about these guys that groan and groan during and after lifting weights.
I had a groaner on each side of me (three benchs in a row, I was in the middle) both guys were fit looking and both had 35+ pounds of barbells in each hand
(you know, when they put them down the earth shakes) But they kept groaning LOUD.. what's up with that? if it's too hard, lift lighter weights!!!
I have a small boy - not so small anymore - and had to go through just this situation: what do you do when you want to go swimming at the indoor pool with your kid, but he's small enough to get seriously worried about going into the mens locker room alone (he was afraid he'd get lost in there :p ), but big enough that he might offend somebody.
He was about 6 or 7 and pretty clueless about nudity and gawping actually, but especially other girls his age were getting shy.
We solved it this way: I sent him into the mens locker room, reminded him to shower, and promised I'd go straight through and be waiting at the pool door the whole time in case he needed me. He could just crack the door open and ask.
FIVE minutes later, max, a worried, soaking wet small boy came out through the pool door, carrying ALL his stuff. And without a stitch on :D
Luckily I was there to hustle him back in so he could put on his bathing shorts before he even noticed what he'd done wrong...
Having worked as a commercial janitor in many types of public and private locations, I can say that when it comes to toilets and urinals, men take the cake (uh, maybe the urinal cake? :p ) for grossness. When it comes to the counter and sink areas, women take it, hands down. Just my experience.
Just smell ok, ok? I know that we all *leave* the gym smelling like we've had a good workout, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to notice that you haven't showered in a week.
[QUOTE=lph;176356]I have a small boy - not so small anymore - ...(he was afraid he'd get lost in there :p ), ...FIVE minutes later, max, a worried, soaking wet small boy came out through the pool door, carrying ALL his stuff. And without a stitch on :D
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Oho, you ,made my day and brought back memories of my little guys, who are now older than I am! :( Thanks!
Alright, you gals are freaking me out about swimming lessions with my 4yo son. At least all the moms with kids were cool about everyone being in some sort of undress. I think the most uncomfortable one was the high school teachers aid that was changing in the middle of all of us:p
My son pointing to the other boy: "you're nekkid"
other boy: "you're nekkid too"
my kid: "you have a weiner"
other kid" "you have a weiner too"
I almost felt sorry for the hs girl:p But all I could think about after gently reminding my son that it wasn't polite to make comments about other peoples bodies, was how far I've come being comfortable in my own skin, that bike tours and communal showers seemed like a rite of passage, and I hoped this sweet young girl would one day be as comfortable in her own skin, in a full locker room with small children of both sexes grinning like me:D
FWIW, as a single mom, my son may be 8 before I let him go in the mens locker room alone. I'm terribly protective when it comes to safety. So no chewing me a new anything, ok?? There aren't family changing rooms here.
CNN Story - Jerks at the gym
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/perso...rks/index.html
The comments are pretty much in line with this thread.:D
As a not single mom I will be doing the same. Luckily the women's changing area has stalls at the one pool and the other has a family room. We won't be joining the Y as they don't allow opposite sex children to accompany from 5 and up.
That said, he goes to the nursery at the gym, not the lockers.
Yup - a co-worker used to work out at the University recreation center in the morning. She was VERY pregnant with twins. She said being naked in the locker room was a powerful form of birth control for the other girls. :D:D:D:D
How about not staring down my treadmill and watching the clock on it when there is a 35 min limit and I've only been on it for 15 min. Also, there are 3 other treadmills open, just cause you like this one too doesn't mean you can be in my bubble staring at the screen, huffing anf puffing and making comments about how you'll just *have* to wait for this one. Yep, you will have to wait... over there. This treadmill works with my HR monitor and I'm not walking and chatting on my cell and reading a magazine. I am running hard. Go away.
I send my sons into the men's dressing room at that age. At some point I asked a dad-like type to go see what the monkeys were doing, and yes, they were having water fights and swinging off the plumbing in there. I can only hope some parental type told them to knock it off
Whatever happened to teaching your kids not to let strangers talk to them or touch them? At some point moms have to stop hovering and empower their kids. My kids were out of the ladies locker room at age 5 or so, and jeez I was only in the room next door. Granted, they were total mayhem in the mens locker room with water fights and so on, but that's the exchange. A kid that is well indoctrinated in "don't talk to strangers" , especially a younger one, will come running back to you pretty quickly especially if you are right next door.
Most pervs want to get kids off in private, not assault them in a public dressing room.
Makes me glad I've never been much of a gym rat... While I used them faithfully back in my Army days, it was pretty much a place to do my push-ups and sit-ups out of the rain.
I'm no fan of treadmills at all. Running or riding, rain or shine, give me an open road, and I'm happy...
I let my boys go into the men's locker room together when they were 8 and 10, maybe 7 and 9. Since I used to let them swim after I taught an aerobics class, this would be their reward for having to stay in the child care room. One time, they were taking a very long time in there, when the superintendent of our school system came out. I asked him to go back in there and find out what the heck they were doing! He reported back that Scott was blow drying his hair and I shouldn't worry. They were really mad at me for having the school superintendent check up on them, but they lived.
I remember feeling very uncomfortable when I was pregnant, in the locker room, with little boys staring.
I really hate them too... but that particular day was a scorcher here in GA and I needed to get a run in... I woke up too late to do it in the am and no time for an evening run. So I was already aggrevated to begin with! That guy was a total jerk about the treadmill. I should have run for an hour just to tick him off ;)
I have three sons. I am not above walking into a men's room or locker room to retrieve them. I have many times stood at the door with the door open, but just out of line of sight, and called to them. When I get no reply, I go in, with a loud warning "female, coming in!" Most times when I've done this, any man in the room would speak up, or the kids would holler or come out, or I would ask the guy coming out if he saw any kids.
I've never had to check every stall for my kid, but I'd do it if I thought it was necessary. A man can complain if he wants, but I don't care.
Men do expose themselves on purpose to kids in pubic men's rooms. It has happened to two of my kids. The only reason I know about this is because my kids knew it was wrong and told me about it. Both times, they told me in the car later, or I would have jerked a not in his thing if I had known who he was.
Karen
]Ok, I stand corrected, it never happened to my sons, that they said, and I assume they would based on other situtations. Awesome that your kids told you. Too bad you couldn't report it. I will stand by that teaching your kids to talk about these things is a good thing, and hovering and protecting them is not.
So far in life, I've do sports activity outdoors....it is rare I use indoor facilities except for whirlpool..and we have them in our building. Yea, I know....
Or I do my simple stretching/yoga/pilates exercises at home.
I'm the sort of person that dresses efficiently when I'm in a communal locker room anyway. Not the sort of person that yaks alot while naked.
Never forget the time when a bunch of women (all in early 20's) peeled off their dirty snowgear in change room at a fancy hotel whirlpool..and left puddles of melted snow, dirt about change room.
Hmmm. Lots to think about here. No, I don't sit bare@ssed on the bench. I make sure the toilet has flushed completely. I'm pretty skilled at using a big towel or roomy t-shirt to cover up while dressing. I deff'nitely don't parade around nekkid! (Pretty shy about nudity now I have an ostomy.) In fact, gym is near home -- one steepish hill climb, over the ridge, then down the other side -- so I generally just pull on a windbreaker over my sweaty gym clothes and shower at home. But as for kids ... You gals should experience the dressing room at the big swim center just over the border north of here. I.e. Sweden. I.e. unisex dressing room, with unisex sauna at one end. So here you are getting into your swimsuit and some nekkid guy wanders by the ends of all the locker rows headed for the sauna :eek: