short (5'1") rider chimes in
I ride a Mondonico Futura Legero. It's made by the same man who builds the more-often-seen Torelli bikes. He makes a few each year with his name on the frame. He just retired and now his son is the 3rd generation of frame builders.
Most people who ride Torelli know someone who loves the bike. In my case that was my ex-GF and she loves hers. So when I needed a new bike I tried lots and lots and lots...but had the Mondonico built.
If I was getting one "off the rack" I'd get the Torelli, I've been told it has a slightly shorter top tube.
It's a great bike and rides as good as it looks.
what should a newbie be looking for in fit?
I guess I just got lucky...when I bought my bike I didn't have a clue. Bought the first one I stood over. The LBS owner checked standover height and asked if the handlebar was covering the hub while I was seated. That was it. I either got lucky that the fit was right or I just got used to the fit. I was very uncomfortable at first but attributed it to not riding for 25 years.
So what should a newbie look for in fit? LBS won't let you take the bike further than the parking lot right? How do you know if it fits you? How do you know if it's comfortable if you just ride it around the parking lot? I don't understand all the talk about sloping tubes, etc. Anyone have the short, concise version for newbies? I do know about saddle height but that's about it. I played around with moving my saddle forward and back to relieve elbow pain but don't know where it's "supposed" to be...other than front of knee over pedal spindle. How stretched out or upright are you supposed to be? Or is it all individual preference?
yes - if we only had moveable parts
on top of that, the bike shorts are supposed to ease the pain, but I've never worn those before either. I got a pair of the women's padded bike short looking underwear, thinking it would be like training wheels for the bike shorts. I wore them to a Spin class, and I went the whole hour despite being in firey pain for the last 45 minutes. That was about 2 months ago, and I haven't touched them since. These things should come with directions...especially for an overthinker/worrier like me. Is there something I am missing about that chamois thing?:confused: