The Surly Thing

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Originally Posted by uforgot

Also, on the Surly forum there is always a lot of discussion about how some people get them too big.

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I have searched but I have never found that forum. Can you post a link? (If that is allowed in this forum) Or give me some direction on where that forum is?

-Sue

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Originally Posted by SadieKate

Um, are you telling me this or who? I know the BB height on a cross bike is higher. I was wondering what the BB height has to do with the top tube length, not the seat tube length, on a cyclocross bike. And I was right - nothing. At least no more than any good bike builder would plan out when designing any bike - road, mtb, or whatever. You still need to pick a bike frame "size" by actual measurements, not by the decal stuck on the bike.

If you read my previous post, you'd see I have a road bike and a cross bike from the same builder in the same size with the same top tube length. But Surly doesn't design this way. Therefore, PscyclePath's comment about a smaller size only applies to Surly and bikes from builders who design similarly - not to all cross bikes.

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Oh my, no!:( Sorry if that came out of whack:o:).

I've looked at the Surley's before. Wishing it would fit me. And I know even in the smallest size, the TT is too long in design.

I was just thinking about what a challenge it is to find smaller bikes stock that actually fit right. Before I found your post, I was coming back to post this thread link.

Some helpful discussion to the OP on geometry from the cyclecross section of this board....
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=27134

EDIT
This is a good thread too...
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=28565

More $ than a Surly, but she sure is pretty...
http://www.lunacycles.com/store.html
(and lord help me, pretty much fits me--about same as my mtb--and erie *same* color--twins in the stable, hmm--dunno about that--but for the sale price:rolleyes:... ahh, I digress:p)

And then, there is...(mo $ too than Surly *sigh*)...
http://www.terrybicycles.com/cycling_savvy/valcross

Kinda interesting blog on cross and smallness...
http://www.kerry-litka.com/main/word...008/10/page/3/

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Originally Posted by canonsue

I see that Specialize gives 515mm as TT, but I don't see anything about a TT (effec) like the Surly. I just assumed that it would also be about 10-12mm additional.

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It is possible that Specialized bike has the horizontal top tube. Then its effective TT is the same as TT. (from what I see, it looks like that).

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Originally Posted by canonsue

I have searched but I have never found that forum. Can you post a link? (If that is allowed in this forum) Or give me some direction on where that forum is?

-Sue

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Here ya go.

http://groups.google.com/group/SurlyLHT

Well, I did the Surly thing but purchased the Long Haul Trucker (42cm) instead of the Crosscheck. I wanted a bike that I could ride on dirt roads and flat single track as well as pavement. This bike will do that. And for a short woman, it looks like the fit will be much more comfortable. I am not crazy about the smaller 26" wheels but it does make the smaller bikes a much better fit and more stable.

Thanks everyone for the help. I will introduce myself in the introduce yourself thread and stay around awhile.

-Sue

I think that's a good choice. Look forward to seeing your new bike. :)