Do you have good core strength? I had a tube coming out of my kidney:eek: for 3 months (long story) exiting my right flank, so I couldn't twist or do any core strength activities. Due to internal injuries healing, I wasn't allowed to pedal -AT ALL, on anything. At the end of 3 months I got on the bike - everything was ok, just poky, except standing to climb. My torso was like a wet noodle. There was absolutely no benefit from standing, in fact it was worse - quite bizarre! It took a long time to recover this strength, and to this day if I slack off, my right low back will get "tired", which was never a problem before! So much strength in cycling comes from core strength - I've seen it (not) in action! Tokie

