Annoying Beagle encounter

While a dog chasing a lone cyclist will tend to stay behind or to the side of the bike, generally allowing you to keep pedaling and outrun the dog, I once had a different situation. I was pedaling with a group and the dog went for the bike ahead of me. I couldn't avoid it, hit the dog, and went down. My bike and I weren't hurt, but my wool Stil-long long underwear pants (worn under my shorts) were torn at the knee. Given that these were expensive wool long underwear and I was a poor student at the time, I actually went to the home that the dog came from and knocked on the door. My attempts to get the owner of the dog to pay for a new pair of Stil-longs were unsuccessful, and I later was able to patch them. Just a note that dog encounters don't always end as positively as Lisa's.

Then there are the country dogs that will wait for you 1/2 way up a hill...

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Originally Posted by DebW

Then there are the country dogs that will wait for you 1/2 way up a hill...

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Yup, that's the kind I get off the bike for and start purposefully walking towards and tell them to GO HOME.

Lisa, you dog encounter made me laugh. If I wasn't afraid I could see myself doing the same thing.

The rides you take sound so lovely to me also. It doesn't matter the pace, the main thing is you are enjoying yourself and becoming fitter at the same time. I think it is wonderful!!!

~ JoAnn

Once I was flying down a hill and saw two huge dogs at the bottom, lying in the middle of the road. They got up and began to act all aggressive towards me, and I knew I wouldn't be able to stop by the time I reached them. So I began to scream and shriek at the top of my lungs. Freaked the poor things out. They jumped out from in front of me. :) Makes for a nice story, but there's no way I'll go down that hill that fast again. Dogs are awfully unpredictable. Good thing they don't drive cars. :)

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Originally Posted by liberty

Once I was flying down a hill and saw two huge dogs at the bottom, lying in the middle of the road. They got up and began to act all aggressive towards me, and I knew I wouldn't be able to stop by the time I reached them. So I began to scream and shriek at the top of my lungs. Freaked the poor things out. They jumped out from in front of me. :)

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I would have loved to have seen that. :D :D :eek:

Speaking of startling a dog...
Many years ago my mother was visiting me in Puerto Rico. My mother was a real unique character- never a dull moment. Strange things always happened to her. (probably because she instigated them)
My neighbor Annie had a little pekinese that was rather nasty and would sometimes bite people, but she kept in inside her gated patio. I was walking with my mother and we stopped to say hello to the neighbor through her iron grated fence. The little pooch was there behind the iron fence with his eyes bugging out hoping to get lucky and chomp down on someone.
Well while Annie and I were talking, my mother unexpectedly suddenly reached down and put her hand inside the bars to pet the little dog's head, and Annie and I were jumping to stop her, but it was too late to stop what was happening! :(
HOWEVER...as my mother's hand reached down and the little dog simultaneously leaped up with mouth open to chomp down on her hand, somehow her finger went right down the dog's throat! :eek: I honestly don't know who was the most surprised- the dog, my mother, the neighbor or myself! But the wee bug-eyed doggie jumped back gagging and ran off all distressed into the house to escape the Strange Lady, and my mother couldn't figure out how her finger wound up going down the dog's throat and started apologizing. Annie and I had a good laugh over that one for months afterwards. Whenever we wanted a good laugh one of us would simply make the finger-down-the-throat gesture...

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Originally Posted by li10up

As dog owners we should never resign ourselves to their bad behavior. ALL dogs can be trained...but usually it is the owner that needs the training first in how to train the dog.

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Thanks for the advice, but I've been through obedience training with both dogs, had a specialist come out to work with us, and one dog got Canine Good Citizen certification and was a therapy dog in a nursing home till his arthritis got too bad.

It might be easy to yank on the leash and train one dog when a bike comes by, but when two (or three, before one of them died) go berserk at once, I'm happy to just be able to keep them under control. People who have walked multiple dogs understand this...it's a whole different ball game than walking one dog.

We hide behind parked cars when I see a bike coming, and I manage the situation. As I said, they're always leashed so the situation Lisa encountered can't happen with my dogs.

(I am hesitant to post this because I don't intend to get into a war of words about dog training, but I don't care for the insinuation that I haven't trained my dogs.)

divingbiker, I'm not insuinuating that you haven't trained your dogs at all. YOU said you resigned yourself to their BAD behaviour, not me. Dogs can be trained but still have an area or two that they need work in. That doesn't make the owner a bad person. Sometimes we just don't know what to do to correct the problem. Maybe working with one at a time would help. For years I didn't know what to do about my dog's fear of thunder. But after watching the show I mentioned I've come up with another thing to try and it worked. I've seen him take dogs, sometimes 2 or 3, which were nearly impossible to take for a walk because they would lunge at every passing person\bike\skateboard\dog or whatever and get them to walk with each other - plus he'd throw in a couple of his dogs. So, I think there is always a way to help our dogs.

I meant my post to be in no way an attack on you or your dogs. Just to say we have an obligation to not give up when it comes to our pets and to offer a possible solution.

There's a real thread killer.

Sorta on the same topic--I have a friend who says he had a friend who used a dog whistle when being chased by dogs. I've ordered one. Anybody have any experience with those? I thought that would be great to hang around my neck and just blow like mad when the dogs head after me. My experience with Halt is that the dogs around here seem to have figured out just how far to stay away from the stream. I also had one dog that I got right in the face with Halt, and it never even fazed him.

Heh. The Dog Whisperer cracks me up, because it is always really obvious when they are setting up the worst possible behavior for him to come in and magically fix. And I bet they just don't air the segments where he fails.

Dogs aren't computers. Training is important, control is crucial, but the idea that if a dog still has a behavioral problem, that automatically means that the owner just hasn't worked hard enough to find the magical solution ... to me, that sounds like a fantasy land, and I would never trust a trainer who made a claim like that. Particularly not in regard to a fear issue.

We took one of our dogs to one of the top behaviorists in the country because her fear problems were so bad when she was a puppy, and she told us straight up: you can make this dog safe, you make her a dog you can live with, but you can't make her perfect. Let go of that idea, because she is always going to be a fearful dog. Dog fears are almost as complex as human fears, and in some ways they are harder to treat because a dog can't take an intellectual approach to her fears.

(But none of my dogs are even slightly afraid of or even interested in bicycles. In our house that would be like fearing the coffee table. Bicycle pumps, on the other hand ... just because of that one time when my husband made a tire explode. That was a couple of years ago but they still try to hide behind me whenever he gets out the floor pump or takes a wheel off a bike.)

One of our dogs cowers whenever my husband carries a flashlight into the yard. We've had her since she was a wee pup so we wonder if someone came into our yard and hit her with something like a flashlight at some point when we weren't home. It's possible since the electric meter is on our house and the meter readers have been known to leap over the fence and come in to read it. (Now they just use binoculars to read it from outside the yard.)

When I was riding last week I was on a bike trail passing by a small pond when I saw a herd of geese all gathered on the trail ahead of me. Some were laying down; a few were standing and stretching their necks (not at me) and none were really looking at me. I've always heard geese can be agressive so I regretfully got off my bike and walked it around them, giving them a wide berth.

But boy did I want to just sail through the middle of them yelling and watch them all flapping and honking and lying away in a tizzy.

i was riding on the multi-use path thru the greenbelt and a guy was feeding the ducks from the lake right in the path!!! i rode right off the path thru the grass to the street til i got waaaaaaayyyyyyyy past them. you just caint trust ducks

I ride through a flock of Canadian geese every day in summer. They can see me coming, they have a humongous grass field to wander around on, and they still manage to get all het up when I ride through on the path :D

I try to aim right at their backsides though, they're pretty good at speeding up and getting out of the way but not very good at stopping. In fact they would probably try to take my shin out if I passed in front of them. Silly birds.

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Originally Posted by xeney

Heh. The Dog Whisperer cracks me up, because it is always really obvious when they are setting up the worst possible behavior for him to come in and magically fix. And I bet they just don't air the segments where he fails.

Dogs aren't computers. Training is important, control is crucial, but the idea that if a dog still has a behavioral problem, that automatically means that the owner just hasn't worked hard enough to find the magical solution ... to me, that sounds like a fantasy land, and I would never trust a trainer who made a claim like that. Particularly not in regard to a fear issue.

We took one of our dogs to one of the top behaviorists in the country because her fear problems were so bad when she was a puppy, and she told us straight up: you can make this dog safe, you make her a dog you can live with, but you can't make her perfect. Let go of that idea, because she is always going to be a fearful dog. Dog fears are almost as complex as human fears, and in some ways they are harder to treat because a dog can't take an intellectual approach to her fears.

(But none of my dogs are even slightly afraid of or even interested in bicycles. In our house that would be like fearing the coffee table. Bicycle pumps, on the other hand ... just because of that one time when my husband made a tire explode. That was a couple of years ago but they still try to hide behind me whenever he gets out the floor pump or takes a wheel off a bike.)

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I saw him work with a very aggressive dog that they had to put a muzzle on - that dog was nuts. If he was ever going to quit on a dog it would have been that one! That dog would have torn into him if he had a chance. I agree that sometimes they play up the dogs aggressiveness a bit but I really do think he knows dogs. Dogs that are fearful are really tough. My dog gets scared when I take the top off of a tube of Chapstick. :confused: If I make a strange sound with my mouth, like a click or pop, the dog comes unglued. Why would those things bother him. I can't seem to figure out how to get him over all his fears but I'm still trying. But if his fear caused him to lunge after other people or dogs I definately would keep on trying to resolve it.

We have a lot of ducks that hang out around the trail by the river. I'm always amazed when they just sit there and let you work your way through them. I always expect a bunch of wing flapping and feathers flying. But they are just as calm as can be. I guess because they are used to lots of people being around. It's still weird though.

When I was a little girl I was riding my bike down the big hill ;) in our neighborhood and this stupid annoying Scottie dog named Pebbles burst in front of me mid hill. I screamed, tried to get out of the way, ran over him with the bike (I will never forget the sight of him belly up under my wheel), then I fell off and cut my face. I still have the scar! So I can totally feel your pain.

As for Cease-

A lot of people in the dog behaviorist community are really critical of Caesar's show because he teaches an older form of "training" that might encourage people who don't know a lot about dogs to unknowingly hurt them physically and emotionally.
This blog discusses both sides of the issue.

As for annoying Beagles- I certainly know about that, I have two! I would never let them outside unleashed because they are bred to be independent hunting dogs that for generations were taught, "If you see something run after it barking" it is pretty hard to undo! I grew up with a Cocker and they are the same way.