Yes, she's got me totally outclassed. I do have a month to practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by maillotpois
It should be noted that the frozen margs are within walking distance of our house.
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Yes, she's got me totally outclassed. I do have a month to practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by maillotpois
It should be noted that the frozen margs are within walking distance of our house.
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Originally Posted by Nanci
That's what I am going with...
Maybe they meant the big giant glasses...
Walking distance...sounds like a plan! Wish I could be there. I could handle a few.
That just bites it to the rim, eh? Don't you hate when that happens, feeling good, everything clicking, you know a personal best awaits you, then pssst?Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
I endured two flats on BTC last week. One was on a climb with such a slow leak, I rode to the top before changing it. I was about 1/2 mile from the last rest stop on the last day. Needless to say, my sense of humor was gone.
I was glad no one was around to hear my very unladylike discussions with my tire. I retired to my abode and had very ladylike sips of a Mike's instead. I gotta train to take up MP's frozen margarita slack.
You may need some wind tunnel work for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SadieKate
Wow... did this thread explode, or what?
I wanted to agree with Eden and BouncyBouncy way back on the first couple of pages...
Averages are really no more than an interest thing... a bit of fun... and don't really tell you much. There are too many variables...
The best advice in this thread I saw first was about page 6 I think from Eden... compare your average, fine, but only over the same course in similar conditions.
I have about four training courses, and about six club courses where I will try and do PBs.
I can compare myself to other riders on the club courses, and on my training course.
I try and choose days that I attempt my PB that have similar weather/wind/temperature conditions so the variables are minimised and I can measure my improvements more accurately.
To give an example of how averages do not tell you about ability UNLESS you have all the information...
On the 4th of June I rode flats for 9km but only managed an 18.5km av - this is way below what I am comforatable riding at but I was riding with my 10 year old son.
On the 5th of June I rode 83km at an average of only 22.74km - again, as a speed, not what I am comfortable riding at but this course has loads of hills and it was the first time I had ridden this far.
On the 2nd July my average was 31km per hour - I did a PB over a club TT course, though it wasn't a race situation and I think I would have done even better if it had been a club race.
I was happy with all those averages - but they need to be understood in their context.
I am much more of the opinion of time on the bike, and rides per week are the measures by which you watch your riding. While I was obsessed with averages to begin with - and it is a very real way to measure yourself as a beginning biker... I only fret about my average now in race (against others or myself) situations.
As for the stir that Lenusik made, well - I read the post and agreed with her... alot of the averages here are slow for me... now.
But I'd like to say to all the beginning riders... that all pro-riders started at a beginning level...
And to those who are not motivated by speed but rather by enjoyment and the pleasure of getting on a bike and increasing personal fitness ... don't get put off by people, like myself, who are obsessed with PBs (and beating my sister-in-law or my colleague at work).
We all have our own goals, and they are all valid.
The important thing is that we are all on bicycles, and we all get pleasure from the cycling we do.
So, when MP and Nanci average only 13.5 miles an hour over a 600k, they're only beginning riders?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadRaven
13.5 maybe slow for you on your course with your equipment, terrain, age, weight, winds, etc., etc., etc., It can be damn fast in other situations. When you can ride a 600K faster than that, let us know.
Sorry, but you sound like the Bike Club president who told me I wasn't a serious cyclist because I don't ride ultra-distance events. Well, I haven't noticed Lance riding brevets either. You start out your post by agreeing that the variables are critical, but you end it with implying that slow speeds make you a beginning rider. You want to re-consider?
Thanks for ALL the input. Has made for very interesting reading . I really didn’t mean to open up such a can of worms - I will know next time and averages HAVE been put in much better perspective.
I am still pretty slow compared to others on the group ride but the leader said for the long haul on the tour I am training for I will be better off than some because the way I ride won’t injure my knees (lower gear but high cadence)
Another thing to note when everyone is quoting numbers are they all MPH unless specified KMH, I accidently switched my computer to kilometers and WOW was I good! my average was 22
Some of the numbers sound more like kmh than mph
AND thought of a new variable - computers! how accurate are they ? ? ?
Last night on the club ride I averaged 14.7 over 30 miles with a one mile long 9% grade climb,
wind was negligble ( x wind of about 5 mph - heavenly for this area - today is 14mph again). I rode pretty much neck in neck with another gal who got less than a 1/2 mile ahead of me for the last 5 miles. ( part was I had to wait for traffic but my computer stops on waits) My computer at the end said 14.7average and hers said 15.9.
SOOO we all decided that either computers lie or mine is running slow - the vote was cast and mine is running slow.:D
Thanks for the great discussions and the great personalities.
Lets all make peace and RIDE ON!
#1 rule for calculating average speed: if you start and end the ride with the same person, you use the longest distance and the highest avg speed, even if it is from two different computers.
Let's go back to talking about drinking.
I've only tasted (and recorded notes on) 170 bottles of wine since I began officially Tasting a year ago spring, (not counting repeats, some of which are 5 or more!, and restaurant bottles) so I am not sure if I am still a beginner or not.
I am right at my one year anniversary of really road biking, and have ridden roughly 5000 miles in that year. But since I found out we could consider our max speed our average speed, I think I am near the top with 49.1 mph.
Cheers to my two favorite things to do!!
Nanci
Hmmm. I love tequila but hate Marguaritas - what is a girl to do? ? ?
How can anyone hate margaritas???
BF makes these really expensive margaritas. I'm not sure of the recipe, but the two bottles of Anejo and Grand Marnier cost nearly $100. Then some fresh limes and powdered sugar. They taste very strong to me, but after the first couple, who cares?? This one time, at band camp, I was taking a shower. I heard this heartbreaking shriek followed by very much cursing from the kitchen, then silence. When I came running out, there he was, crouched on his hands and knees, sucking up spilled margaritas off the floor with a straw (frozen, luckily). I guess when you are unlucky enough to drop the blender-full, and the batch cost $$$$$$$$$, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. Man, I love teasing him about that!
I did my first wine tasting a year ago, made me appreciate wine a little more. I can now drink merlot or shiraz with dinnerQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanci
My BF likes wine - I like beer and tequila - not mixed:eek:
Heifeweisen, Black and Tan, Beamish, Muphy's, Red stripe, Pacifica, Corona, Coors light - its all good (must leave out Bud light - I don't like the name :p
Dream vacation: Cycling through Ireland doing a pub crawl and staying at bed and breakfasts
Just remember:
Beer before wine you do just fine
Beer before liquor never sicker
liquor before beer you're in the clear!
Now that is a true love of margaritas. We're having a Margherita pizza for dinner. Not anything like the drink, but good none-the-less. If you're a beginner Nanci, then I guess I'm a mere infant.