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quint41
09-10-2006, 06:56 AM
I ride with a group. I also belong to a gym. I've always been told to stretch and warm up before exercise, but only a small percentage of folks at the gym actually stretch and nobody in my cycling group does. Do you stretch before a ride??
fatbottomedgurl
09-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Yes. Stretch my quads, hamstrings, calves, knees (sides). But not every time. I usually stretch afterwards.
KnottedYet
09-10-2006, 07:32 AM
If I think to stretch, it's afterwards. And I certainly don't think to stretch after a little warm-up of 10 minutes or so, cuz by then I'm too busy riding to want to stop!
Cold muscles don't stretch as well as warm ones.
Bikingmomof3
09-10-2006, 07:59 AM
I stretch after I ride, although I usually have done some cardio workout prior to riding, so my muscles are already warmed up.
Bruno28
09-10-2006, 08:04 AM
I don't but I always mean to. I think it would probably help.
Kalidurga
09-10-2006, 08:10 AM
I usually end up doing one or two brief stretches when I stop for a break during my ride, after I've warmed up, and a few more at the car when the ride's over. I always intend to do a thorough stretch when I get home, but I've found a good warm shower loosens the muscles up just as well (and leaves me too sleepy to stretch anyway).
liberty
09-10-2006, 08:10 AM
It depends on where I am biking. If I want to do rides around my house, I tend to warm up on the trainer because once I leave here it is nothing but hills and more hills. Those absolutely kill me if I don't warm up first. So after warming up for about 10 minutes I will stretch out. But if I drive someplace for a ride I usually just get on and go. Then if there is a bathroom break or people need to stop I will stretch out a little bit. I definitely stretch afterwards. My back and shoulders would "talk" to me if I didn't...
mimitabby
09-10-2006, 08:31 AM
i used to stretch before each ride because if i did not i got cramps.
as i got stronger, that went away. Now I stretch on breaks during rides.
Bad JuJu
09-10-2006, 08:41 AM
I've just gone through a course of PT for my knee, and the therapist told me the best way to stretch is to ride for 5 minutes or so first, warming up your muscles that way, and THEN stop and stretch a little. Then of course stretch afterwards.
This makes sense to me, but honestly I don't know whether I'll keep it up. I don't know about the rest of you, but five minutes into a ride, I'm just getting into it and the last thing I want to do is stop and stretch.
chickwhorips
09-10-2006, 10:31 AM
i definatly stretch afterwards. occationally i'll do some weights before i ride and then i stretch, but mostly not. i do some stretching while i'm riding though, just to help loosen up some muscles.
Denise223
09-10-2006, 11:57 AM
No, I don't stretch first, but I do afterwards - not always.
I'll have to search TE & check out appropriate post-cycling stretches.
donnambr
09-10-2006, 01:51 PM
I must always stretch shoulders, neck, upper back before and after a ride or there will be chiropractor visits in my future. Only takes a couple of minutes.
Stretching cold muscles is supposed to be a bad idea.
Spinning your legs will be a good warmup, use an easy gear. You can always stretch during a break, but afterwards will bring the most rewards.
I wish I could explain why, but I can't. My coaches have always insisted on that though...
latelatebloomer
09-10-2006, 05:06 PM
I do some yoga almost every morning, so I'm not getting ever getting on the bike with stiff back or legs. For a while I got sloppy about after-ride stretching, mostly because when I get back there's always at least nine things I neglected to ride in the first place that gang up on me as soon as I hop off the bike. But I really felt I was paying a price for that in my mobility, plus the stretching is so deep and lovely after a ride. Since I quickly face inclines in any direction I ride, if the weather is chilly, I warm up with a short walk around the churchyard next door. Both my legs and lungs appreciate it.
The trainer I work with is a DEMON about stretching post-ride, which is probably one of the reasons he's in England now for the Masters' World Championships. At 55 he moves with more grace than most 20somethings.
GLC1968
09-10-2006, 05:19 PM
Stretching cold muscles is supposed to be a bad idea.
Spinning your legs will be a good warmup, use an easy gear. You can always stretch during a break, but afterwards will bring the most rewards.
I wish I could explain why, but I can't. My coaches have always insisted on that though...
Ditto.
There are studies that have shown that stretching actually decreases total strength output. The studies were weight-lifting based, but I would think a similar theory would apply here. You absolutely do need to warm up...easy spinning to get the blood flowing to the muscles in your legs AND in your heart. And stretching at rests is probably helpful...especially if the rest ends up being longer than anticipated (like wating in line for a toilet!). Stretching afterward is VERY important...cool down with easy spinning again, get the HR back to normal, and then stretch the muscles slowly.
7rider
09-10-2006, 05:22 PM
I ride with a group. I also belong to a gym. I've always been told to stretch and warm up before exercise, but only a small percentage of folks at the gym actually stretch and nobody in my cycling group does. Do you stretch before a ride??
Gulp!
I feel like I'm at the Dentist and he asks "Do you floss every day?"
Uh....
Well, I answered "yes," but I should probably add "mostly."
I also ride with a group, and we drive to the shop to do the ride. DH and I will stretch at the house while we're getting dressed, slapping on the sunblock, and loading the bikes. At the shop, we ride laps around the mini-plaza where the shop is to warm up.
After the ride, I'll stretch in the shower.
HillSlugger
09-10-2006, 07:56 PM
I even stretch before riding on the trainer stand.
Tater
09-11-2006, 07:33 AM
Nope, I don't stretch before a ride. I would rather spin in an easy gear for awhile then stretch. Things don't seem to hurt as much then.
maillotpois
09-11-2006, 09:15 AM
I liked this discussion from cyclingnews.com by Scott Saifer, and not just because I have been coached by Scott - I think his approach is pretty good, and he's funny:
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Stretching
I'm an 18 year old recreational rider who is doing 2 hour rides a few times a week. I'm not a very limber person and I usually do only two or three very basic stretches before and after my rides. I'm constantly sore and I think i'm missing some key stretches. What are the essential stretches every cyclist should do before and after a ride?
Will Pollock
Scott Saifer replies:
A few years ago I read a self-help/philosophy sort of book that suggested the introduction of a new word that would mean something between "yes" and "no" which was definite, not "maybe". The proposed new word was "po". You've asked a po sort of question here. There are no "key stretches every cyclist should do". The goal of stretching, if it is needed, is to develop the functional flexibility to efficiently and comfortably ride the bike. A rider who can already do that does not need to stretch. A rider who cannot pedal smoothly and comfortably should first get a good bike fitting to maximize performance with the current level of flexibility, and should then work on the specific elements of flexibility that continue to interfere with riding, or that seem likely to enhance performance, such as stretches that allow the rider to get lower or narrower, or to bring the knees closer to the top tube.
Here's another perspective :
Dave Fleckenstein replies:
I would take a slightly different approach to Scott, mainly due to the fact that I deal not as much with the healthy cyclists, but those who have become injured. Anytime that the body is subjected to repetitive activity, there is accumulation of breakdown and postural adaptation. If the body is constantly accumulating a pattern and not consistently perfoming maintenance to offset the repetive activity, than negative changes occur. In the case of cyclists, I tend to see excessive mobility present in the lumbar spine (accelerating the likelihood of degenerative changes) due to prolonged lumbar flexion, weak stabilization musculature, and tight lower extremity musculature (which limits normal motion of the pelvis and lumbar spine). I highly recommend my athletes perform fairly regular hamstring, hip flexor, and hip musculature (particularly piriformis and iliotibial band) stretching.
I would caution that there are many wrong ways to stretch and few right ways - I am making a more detailed program for CN this fall. I regularly have clients who mistakenly think that bending forward to touch the toes equates to hamstring stretching, when it reality it more closely correlates to stretching the lumbar spine - not a good thing to do consistently. I participate (cautiously) in yoga, and watch people trying to strain and struggle in poses (such as downward dog) and, rather than swallow their pride and use props or stretch less to maintain a strong neutral spine, they end up creating local stresses on the spine and are ultimately doing more harm than good.
Finally, as I live in a town that has a formula driven fit program that in my opinion creates more pathology than performs improvement, I would urge caution at being fit without first assessing normal mobility. The bike fit should be adapted to your current body and the mistake that most bike fit "pros" make is that the body will somehow adapt to an aggressive position. I can tell you absolutely it will not. If you are fit to an aggressive position without having adequate flexibility, the hamstrings do not lengthen, the lumbar spine does so preferentially, making support structures such as the disc and ligaments excessively lax. This leads to accelerated breakdown of the lumbar spine. Bike fitting is a constantly evolving project.. If I have a higher level racer who requires a more aggressive position, I will assess the ability of the racer to attain that position, prescribe a flexibility and stabilization program to enable them to succeed in that position, and slowly bring them to the desired position.
I ride with a group. I also belong to a gym. I've always been told to stretch and warm up before exercise, but only a small percentage of folks at the gym actually stretch and nobody in my cycling group does. Do you stretch before a ride??
Well, studies have shown that it's more effective to stretch after you have warmed up some.
I stretch after a ride.
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