SoCal TE Ride 7/1 (Saturday)... who's in? [Archive] - Women's Cycling Discussion Forums

tprevost

06-20-2006, 05:08 AM

this one will be out of Orange County - probably between 40-50 miles and possibly w/hills, depending on who's coming. Several of us are trying to get some hill work in in preparation for Cool Breeze coming up in August. :p

I TRI, if you wanted to come and do a shorter ride, you can always turn back early or Pam might be able to give you a way to do a shorter loop. Everyone is really great and lots of fun!

T~

bikerchick68

06-20-2006, 10:46 AM

I'm hoping to be there but have house sitting obligations for my best friend...

I need details please... where is the start? What time? (I think Pam said 9AM?) how far etc... I have to figure out timing and make sure I can make it without messing up the dog who's old and medicated... stuff's gotta be on time.

bcipam

06-20-2006, 11:00 AM

OK OK just need to know whose coming - haven't worked out a start time or route yet. My project for next weekend since I'll be home unable to ride. Would everyone be interested in an earlier start - say 8am especially if the weather turns hot? Would like to make the distance somewhere around 40 - 50 miles again depending on whose coming.

If we start early and the temps stay down I would like to climb up through Lemon Heights to Orange Park Acres and then give you a gals a great downhill (practice!) on Jamboree. From Jamboree we can turn (most likely at Portola to the Hick's Haul Trail) and head out towards the ocean. Not as many path trails this time cause we need to practice being out on the roads.

Start place will most likely again be Cedar Grove Park, in Tustin Ranch.

Bikerchick: Would really love for you to make this ride. Is there any way someone else can check on the dog for you? I predict the ride will take the morning and maybe some of the afternoon as well.

bikerchick68

06-20-2006, 02:20 PM

OK... I mapquested this and it's 95 miles... about an hour 40 minutes from me... assuming we start at 8 am I would HAVE to be done and in my vehicle no later than 2pm... and that is really pushing it... I'm gonna have to think about it... that means this dog couldn't go out from 6am- almost 4 pm... close to 10 hours. My friend will be in Michigan for a wedding so no way to change plans...

chances are we'd complete the ride faster than that... but I never underestimate weird mechanical stuff and flats on long rides...

hmmm... lemme think about it... I may just have to cut out early if it's taking too long...

bcipam

06-20-2006, 03:04 PM

Bikerchick: We took quite a while on our last ride. With your trip up and back it would be pushing it.

If I can talk the gals into it maybe we can schedule another ride in late July and anytime you want to come up here and ride let me know and I'm willing to go down there. Always looking for an excuse to ride in SD! How about you schedule the next ride?

tprevost

06-20-2006, 04:24 PM

Pam,

I'm good for 8am and I love that little park, so I'm in. We did do quite a bit of stopping last time when we might not have needed to, so maybe you can get BC68 a route map or directions so she can zoom on ahead if necessary. I, for one, would love to have Jen come if at all possible.

Also, I don't really need to stop and eat (other than gu/sports beans etc.) so I'd actually prefer to just hit 7-11 or something since I'm paying for childcare while I'm gone... that would save quite a bit of time right there. In theory, 40-50 miles should take us no more than 5 hours including stops at the very most, right?

In any case, I am coming and the route you posted sounds great! Looking forward to it!!!!

Trac'

Brandy

06-20-2006, 05:39 PM

I'm game for not stopping for lunch as well. The sooner I'm back to the kids, the better :)

tprevost

06-20-2006, 06:26 PM

Heya Brandy! :D

Its too quiet here when you're gone... no more 10 day trips for you!!! :p

T~

I TRI

06-20-2006, 07:06 PM

You ladies are way too fit for me, so I'll pass on this one, but if there's a San Diego ride posted and I can swing the distance, I'd love to join in.

Nicola

Brandy

06-20-2006, 07:10 PM

Oh...and if given a choice, I'd like to shoot for 50 miles this time! :D

tprevost

06-20-2006, 07:33 PM

Nicola,

Somehow I get the feeling you are pulling our legs! ;) Seriously though, if you don't want to go as far, we can figure out a shorter route if you decide you'd like to try it! These are no-drop rides as well so we usually stop and wait till everyone (usually me!) catches up!

Trac'

tprevost

06-20-2006, 07:34 PM

I'll second the 50 mile request...

Trac'

I TRI

06-20-2006, 08:07 PM

Nicola,

Somehow I get the feeling you are pulling our legs! ;)
Trac'

No not at all!! My longest ride so far is 20 miles ... our 25 on Friday will be my new record!!

Nicola

tprevost

06-20-2006, 08:36 PM

N~

the good news is that the last 10 miles are pretty much downhill or flat... and I go really, really slowly up the other hills so you'll be just fine ;)

T~

chartman64

06-21-2006, 07:23 AM

As a relative newbie, I'm finding that I can't hack riding in the sun and heat. My daily workout rides are starting at 5 or 5:30 AM and I'm usually out and done by 7:30, 8AM at the latest. I'm guessing that I'm probably not going to find a whole lot of like-minded souls who want to ride with me at the crack of (or slightly before) dawn.

tprevost

06-21-2006, 07:33 AM

Hey Chartman64!

You may want to try it at least once because Pam (who's putting the route together) doesn't like heat either and if it's too warm, she will be putting together something near the coast.... so I think you might be okay?

You might want to PM her to get her thoughts; I'd love to see you give it a try!

Trac'

Tiffanie

06-21-2006, 08:42 AM

I'm out. My work schedule just changed. :( Hopefully next time!

bcipam

06-21-2006, 09:22 AM

OK so I'll think about putting together a 50 miler. Weather will dictate direction.

But just a word of of caution. I don't need to stop for lunch either but depends on how slow the group is. Most likely I will make everyone stop for GU or Bean or whatever every 20 miles or so. Stops short and quick and move on. Riding 50 without a proper food stop will make everyone bonky, including me. I can usually do a flat 50 in about 4 hours (hilly - 5 hours), including a quick coffee stop but it depends on the heat, the group etc. If we start around 8 we should be done around 1 - 1:30. Suggest everyone bring their gels and beans but also a proper food source such as protein bar, pj sandwich, fig cookies, etc.

tprevost

06-21-2006, 09:59 AM

sounds like a great plan!!!!

T~

ACG

06-21-2006, 10:29 AM

Do you have a plan as to where you are going? I'm trying to clean my yard, but think I could squeeze in a ride with you ladies... If you are willing to let a slow turtle go with you.

Ninabike

06-21-2006, 10:52 AM

Pam, I have been a little behind in posting lately - very busy at work. I would love to go. I am just not sure yet, because we had talked about going to Catalina over that weekend. If I do go, I don't need to stop for lunch or long breaks either. My endurance is pretty good and I can average 16-18 mph. It's just those hills!!! I'll stay in touch.

Nina

tprevost

06-21-2006, 10:55 AM

ACG and Nina,

Hope you ladies can make it, Pam knows some really good routes! ACG, we are starting from a little park near 261 and Jamboree (Tustin) if that gives you and idea of area... we're looking at about 50 miles or so.

Trac'

bcipam

06-21-2006, 11:05 AM

Here's my proposed route so far... athough subject to alteration and change due to weather..

Cedar Grove Park, Tustin Ranch
Lower Peters Canyon to Lemon Heights
Lemon Heights to Skyline (yes we are climbing but its early when its cool)
Skyline to Cowan Heights to Newport Blvd.
Newport Blvd to Santiago Canyon.
Santiago to Jamboree
Jamboree to Portola
Portola to Hick's Haul bike trail
Take the East trail back to Portola
Portola to Jeffrey (need to check status of Jeffrey due to construction)
Jeffrey South (again depends on construction) to San Diego Creek trail
SD creek trail to Back Bay East to PCH
PCH to Santa Ana bike trail
SA bike trail to Orange and then find a way back to Tustin.

I think its about 50 miles. If not we can cruise back up Pioneer and Jamboree to add mileage.

tprevost

06-21-2006, 11:12 AM

Whoo Hooooo, we got ourselves a route!!! That sounds like a GREAT route Pam! Thanks again for putting it together, it really helps to have someone who knows those roads!

What are the other climbs besides Lemon Heights? (No, I'm not worried, just want to be prepared ;) )

Trac'

bcipam

06-21-2006, 11:35 AM

well I was sortof toying with putting in Newport Coast to PCH - would be a good challenge for us up and down. I may do this....

From Jeffrey go to Ridgeline (big climb!!!) to Turtle Rock to Bonita Canyon to Newport Coast (big climb) to PCH to Marguerite to San Miguel (medium climb)
and somehow Back Bay or take PCH to Santa Ana River trail.
Like I said, need to think about it.

Right now the climb is all in lemon Heights, Skyline and Newport Blvd, Santiago and Jamboree.

tprevost

06-21-2006, 11:39 AM

if we do the 2nd option, would we still start at the same park? It sounds like Nina will need to bring her triple! ;)

Trac'

Ninabike

06-21-2006, 12:08 PM

You are right, I may need my triple!! That bike overall, is not quite as comfortable or as good a fit as my regular bike with the compact double. Right now, it's sitting on a trainer.

bcipam

06-21-2006, 12:41 PM

if we do the 2nd option, would we still start at the same park? It sounds like Nina will need to bring her triple! ;)

Trac'

Right now the start is still Cedar Grove and yes Nine may have to bring the triple. But then again it maybe hot and I elect to keep the route flat. Will decide next week by Thurs.

Tiffanie

06-21-2006, 02:06 PM

Pam, I was just on Culver today and noticed there were bike route detour signs noting Jeffrey. Just an fyi...

Here's my proposed route so far... athough subject to alteration and change due to weather..

Cedar Grove Park, Tustin Ranch
Lower Peters Canyon to Lemon Heights
Lemon Heights to Skyline (yes we are climbing but its early when its cool)
Skyline to Cowan Heights to Newport Blvd.
Newport Blvd to Santiago Canyon.
Santiago to Jamboree
Jamboree to Portola
Portola to Hick's Haul bike trail
Take the East trail back to Portola
Portola to Jeffrey (need to check status of Jeffrey due to construction)
Jeffrey South (again depends on construction) to San Diego Creek trail
SD creek trail to Back Bay East to PCH
PCH to Santa Ana bike trail
SA bike trail to Orange and then find a way back to Tustin.

I think its about 50 miles. If not we can cruise back up Pioneer and Jamboree to add mileage.

bcipam

06-21-2006, 02:11 PM

Yeah I know there maybe a problem but I can work it out. I'll try and drive or ride the route later this week.

chartman64

06-23-2006, 07:09 AM

Ninabike

06-23-2006, 08:52 AM

caligurl

06-23-2006, 09:31 AM

I didn't mean to imply the ride would average 16-18 mph. Pam will decide on and set the pace. I just want to make sure I don't slow down the group. In any event, my tentative plans put me on Catalina for that weekend so don't listen to me!!

Nina

*gasp* you don't want to slow down the group.... and you ride 16-18 mph! double *gasp*

i surely don't ride 16-18 mph! and ESPECIALLY not with hills involved!

iffen you's all are riding 16-18 mph... you are WAY too fast for me! i go the distance... but i go slowly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brandy

06-23-2006, 09:40 AM

I have to back out of this ride, darn it! I'll have to join you ladies next time.

bcipam

06-23-2006, 10:32 AM

50 miles, 16-18 mph and only very brief stops is most likely going to be beyond my capacity right now, especially if you factor in the heat. I think I'll stick to my 2, 2.5 hour early morning workouts on the hills and trails around downtown for now -- the only thing unsatisfying about that challenge right now is the lack of company. I'd like to catch up with y'all sometime next fall, when hopefully I'll have built up my endurance and speed a bit more.

Who said the pace was 16 - 18 mph (I think Nina may have mention that pace but the hills will slow her down)????? The pace is going to be casual - this is a training ride. The distance will be around 50 miles but will include some hills. I am a slow hill climbing. Most likely I'll be lucky to hit 5 mph.

Anyway, this isn't an event ride. This is a slow training ride meant to get us out on the saddle for at least 4 hours and to do some distance. The plan is to have regular breaks although nothing like the long lunch break we had last ride. I am a firm believer of frequent quick stops and not a few long ones. I like to keep my legs warmed up.

Because there will be alot of climbing, regrouping at the top of hills and bottom of hills will be part of the stops/breaks.

And we will ride to everyone's level as long as you can make around 50 miles. Don't stress out about not keeping up.

My friend Jess (of the OC Rebels) is helping me come up with a nice course. It will include Newport Coast - not a hard hill, just long. If you can do NC, then anything on CB will be easy.

Ninabike

06-23-2006, 11:27 AM

I can only go fast on flats!! My speed on hills is my walking speed. That'll slow down any group!!

Nina

caligurl

06-23-2006, 11:33 AM

see... then you still have something over me.... i'm not fast on hills.... i do get passed by MOST people... however i do occasionally pass a couple of folks...

however... i'm not even fast on downhills or flats! yes... i'm faster going down than up! not saying that! but i still get passed on downhills.. and flats.. forget it... i get passed by the majority of people!

what i have (and have said before) is endurance... so i just keep going (i've gotta find me an energizer bunny gif! lol!)

i was looking at my bikejournal log... and my yearly average for my rides so far is only 13.66! yep... that's it! so see! i told you i was slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have over 3000 miles... but lots of hours on the bike doing those miles!

bcipam

06-23-2006, 01:15 PM

Cali and Nina:

I look at it this way we all have certain gifts. Cali, clearly yours is endurance and stamina. I can't and won't even think about doing some of the rides you do. It makes me tired thinking of them.

Nina is definitely fast on flats. I am too. My gift is having very large, very powerful, strong legs. I can also push a big gear in wind. But put me on a hill.... well, the big parachute sail comes out and I drop way behind. Now, I can climb the hill but my size and weight keeps me behind the pack but once I crest that hill I can usually make up the deficient. I'm not afraid of the downhills on a road bike - mountain biking has helped me over that fear.

That's why group riding is interesting. I consider it to be an "ebb and flow" people go forward, people drop back but eventually you usually catch up and regroup. Signals lights are a great equalizer.

Jess is definitely coming up with an interesting although challenging ride for us. It may be shorter than 50 miles (I'll cut it short if it gets too hot) but will definitely be challenging. Nina bring the triple although none of the hills are as steep as Shady Ridge, just long. Newport Coast is about a mile. Jess is also going to take us up off the busy, narrow part of PCH so we have to climb Dover, not a bad hill. The toughest hill will actually be the first - Lemon Heights. It is very short - just several 100 feet but crests at 10% or so, then a nice rolly road through beautiful 1,000,000+ homes and up onto Skyline, another doable but long hill with some switchbacks corners at about 10%.

Hills are not my favorite thing but they are good for me. Help burn off all those calories, make me lose weight so someday I can climb like Cali!

Nina don't be scared off - its all doable.

AND CALI - the reason your average is onl;y 13 is all the hills and elevation you do. Geez... considering 13 is awesome!!!!!!

tprevost

06-23-2006, 01:31 PM

Okay, everyone who is on the fence!!!! Cut it out!!!! :p Pam is an excellent leader and this is not going to be a race; cause, believe me - if it was... ya'll could have a long lunch and I'd still be catching up! Besides, we have our ladies who are strong on the flats/downhills, those who rock on the uphills, and ME, who isn't good an anything yet! :p But darned it, I'm trying and hopefully it will eventually pay off!

Caligurl and Chartman64.... please come :p it will be so great to have you there! Heck, if I can keep up, anyone can!!!

Tracy

ps. Brandy, I'm seriously bummed that you can't come! When can you and Tiff come ride the wine country loop???

caligurl

06-23-2006, 01:33 PM

it all depends on what's up with hubby's neck and what we have on tap for next weekend! (he's not even riding the grand tour tomorrow and he's already paid :( ) and of course... the weekend after the 1st is 3 harbors... not sure he will want to drive 3 weekends in a row..... we'll see!

bcipam

06-23-2006, 02:09 PM

Cali (and hubby) come - it will be a friendly easy ride. Just something to stretch out your legs. And its not that far to OC maybe an hour, hour and an half, not too bad.... :o

caligurl

06-23-2006, 02:11 PM

well see! it's not the getting there that is the problem... it's the getting home! traffic pics up by then.. and we've NEVER been on the 91 on the other side of green valley without HORRIBLE traffic!

with the drive to malibu tomorrow.... and then back to ventura in two weeks... he may not want to drive "down the hill" next weekend! plus gas gets spendy on all those trips!

Brandy

06-23-2006, 05:49 PM

ps. Brandy, I'm seriously bummed that you can't come! When can you and Tiff come ride the wine country loop???

I know...I'm bummed too. :( I'm using up all of my babysitting time with Grandma next week and then I had something come up so I thought it was better to bow out. I'd like to do the wine country loop, but I melt in the heat...would I be dying out there?

tprevost

06-23-2006, 05:59 PM

I've been begging and pleading w/Caligurl too but it is a long drive.... its at least 2+ hours; could be more w/any traffic. I hope they come though!

tprevost

06-23-2006, 06:01 PM

Brandy,

I did it this morning and it was nice, probably mid 80's at the end. We started at a little before 9am. Of course, you wouldn't want to be doing it any later than lunch time!

T~

chartman64

06-24-2006, 08:15 AM

Okay, everyone who is on the fence!!!! Cut it out!!!! :p Pam is an excellent leader and this is not going to be a race; cause, believe me - if it was... ya'll could have a long lunch and I'd still be catching up!

Well, I *still* think I'm probably way too new for this and that 50 miles is most likely too ambitious at this point, but if you don't mind the giving a newbie a shot at it, I'll come. I figure, worse comes to worse, so long as I have a map and can get back to my car, I can always turn around.

Can anyone give me directions from downtown L.A. to the starting point, and let me know what time to be there?

Cindi

tprevost

06-24-2006, 06:09 PM

YEAH Cindi!!!

Just wanted to pipe in to say I'm glad you're coming!!! I only know how to get there from my house so I'm no help w/directions ... sorry. I was in Irvine all day today though and it was actually pretty cool - the June gloom was over the airport area pretty much all day and it didn't get too warm... hopefully it will be that way next weekend too! ;)

Trac'

bcipam

06-24-2006, 09:04 PM

I will post the route and directions next week for anyone interested

chartman64

06-26-2006, 08:14 AM

YEAH Cindi!!!

Just wanted to pipe in to say I'm glad you're coming!!! Trac'

Thanks very much! I really look forward to meeting you!

tprevost

06-27-2006, 08:20 PM

So, what's the plan for Saturday? I'm leaving Thursday afternoon and won't be home until late Friday so I'd like to get an idea of start time (I'm assuming the starting point is the same).

I think there are several people who will need directions to the start as well. I can't wait to see everyone!!!! YEAH!!

Trac'

bcipam

06-28-2006, 04:55 AM

I was hoping to get and post the route slip from my friend Jess but it has not arrived yet. No worries, I have a route planned in my head. I think with all this "Africa Hot" weather we are having we will skip the hill climbing in the beginning. I still plan on doing Newport Coast. Will also have a little climbing once we hit PCH, but its a little hill. Depending on how everyone is doing and what the weather is like, we can add some hill climbing (and mileage) on the end. I'd like to do 50 miles but with really hot weather may cut it to 40 or so. Remember to bring plenty of water and snacky snacks.

Anyway, let's plan on meeting at Cedar Grove Park around 8 - planning to leave at 830a. Directions:

Cedar grove Park, Tustin Ranch CA

From LA: Take 5 South past the 55 (Newport Fwy), exit Tustin Ranch Rd. turn left. Continue up Tustin Ranch Rd. to Pioneer (approximately 1 1/2 - 2 miles), turn left, right, and then immediately left into the Park parking lot. Note if you hit Jamboree, you went too far. Pioneer is the left turn before Jamboree. Tustin Ranch dead ends into Jamboree. Look for the 7th Day Adventist Church and OC Fire Station at the corner of Tustin Ranch and Pioneer.

From South OC or San Diego: Take 5 North, exit Jamboree turn right. Take Jamboree past Irvine Blvd, look for Tustin Ranch Rd., turn left. Next right is Pioneer, turn right, then right again and left into the Park.

My cell phone is (714) 308-5522. Please call me if you are running late, get lost etc so we wait for you. I have a white Ford Explorer with cycling stickers all over the back window, license "BIKNPAM".

I'm hoping both Wayne and my friend Richard join us. Please give me a roll call so I know whose coming and know to wait for you all.

tprevost

06-28-2006, 06:12 AM

I'm in, see ya at 8am :D

Trac'

Ninabike

06-28-2006, 07:49 AM

Hi Pam, I'm not sure yet, but will let you know.

Nina

bcipam

06-28-2006, 10:58 AM

Bump this up for everyone to see.

chartman64

06-28-2006, 12:29 PM

I'm in, unless the currently forecast 10-degree temperature drop doesn't happen. If they're predicting 90s, I think it'd be foolish for a newbie like me to attempt even 40 miles. I'll leave a message on Friday night if I won't be there.

Cindi

bcipam

06-28-2006, 01:08 PM

Yeah kindof thinking if its very hot what to do. Cindi I will definitely shorten
the ride and keep it easy. We can play it by ear.

bcipam

06-29-2006, 11:25 AM

OK I now have 3 ride options depending on who comes and what everyone is up for.

Right now the only for sures I have are Tracey, myself, Wayne, Wayne's friend Mike. Richard is a maybe as is Cindi and Nina.

The plan is still to meet between 8 - 8:15, planning to start riding at 8:30 at Cedar Grove Park. I have 3 route options and distances - 35, 50 and 67. I think the 67, which is a cool route, I'll save for the ride planned end of July early August to see if we are all ready for Cool Breeze. I was thinking of taking the 35 and turning it into a 45 by adding some hills and a loop in the beginning if the weather's not bad and everyone is game but otherwise, the 50m ride is fairly easy, only really one long hill (Newport Coast) and lots of flat. That ride can also be modified. Jess has us going all the way into Huntington Beach, Main Street. I'm thinking we might want to avoid the crazies and hit the River Trail instead, take a break and head back. I will bring all 3 route slips with me and we can discuss that morning depending on who shows up.

Again roll call please?

tprevost

06-29-2006, 11:31 AM

I'm still in.... looking forward to it ;)

T~

Brandy

06-29-2006, 11:47 AM

Not going to be able to make it, but HB is going to be nuts this weekend between the nice weather and the holiday on Tuesday. I hope you all have a great ride and I'm looking forward to the next one. That would be great if we could do the 67 mile route before Cool Breeze Pam!

Ninabike

06-29-2006, 12:39 PM

Pam, I'll let you know for sure by tomorrow morning. Thanks for all your efforts.

Nina

bcipam

06-29-2006, 02:15 PM

You guys start thinking of another date and let's set up the metric ride. I would hate for Jess' work to go to waste!

Anyone interested out there in doing and setting up a San Diego ride. With this hot weather would be a nice place to ride.

tprevost

06-29-2006, 02:52 PM

BC68 knows how to do the whole Amtrak thing - which would re-create part of the Amtrak Century route. If she doesn't want to organize it; I'll get the info from her. I think she parked in San Diego and road to San Clemente; although I think I'd rather do it reversed.

Trac'

ps. I'm off to take an exam tomorrow... please everyone, cross your fingers!

Ninabike

06-29-2006, 02:57 PM

Tracy - Best of luck on your exam. I'm sure you'll do just fine!!

Nina

tprevost

06-29-2006, 05:06 PM

Thanks Nina! I'll need all the help I can get ;) its a toughie though so I figure if I have to take it again, at least I've had practice!!!

Hope you can come Saturday!

Tracy

caligurl

06-29-2006, 05:15 PM

tracy.... you are gonna ACE that exam!

Brandy

06-29-2006, 06:07 PM

Good luck Tracy! You'll do great :)

tprevost

06-29-2006, 07:06 PM

Awwwww... thanks everyone! Keep those thoughts coming tomorrow okay? ;)

Trac'

Tiffanie

06-29-2006, 07:56 PM

Good luck tomorrow! :)

ACG

06-30-2006, 05:22 AM

I'm in! Sorry for the late response. I'll see you ladies tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!

chartman64

06-30-2006, 07:08 AM

Arrgh! Turns out it's not weather or lack of confidence that will keep me out -- unfortunately, I'm not going to have a car. My ride tomorrow is going to be home from the car repair place.

I"ll look forward to meeting you all another time.

Ninabike

06-30-2006, 08:03 AM

Hi Pam,

My husband and I are in. I am also e-mailing you.

Nina

bcipam

06-30-2006, 10:24 AM

OK cool we will have a nice little group. Looks like Tracy, Nina, Nina's husband (I need to get his name again sorry!) and ACG. Cindi you would have done fine. Never to worry. Maybe next time. Or organize something up your way.

OK Gang... be prepared for some hill climbing. I will bring all the route options (some very flat) to the park and we can look them over but my preference is to do the 45 miler which includes about 2000' of climbing, most right in the beginning and then Newport Coast. A good test for our legs. I will be slow and so most likely sweeping. You get to follow Wayne's nice rear view and his friend Mike up the hills. The first trek is through some beautiful country roads (yes even in Orange County) and consists of 4 signicant climbs. The first and steepest, is very short, the next just grindy but on that cool country road, the 3rd long, and the 4th, well, you are tired from the first 3. If everyone is done with hills we can cut out the 4th (thankfully everything is negotiable and changeable).

PS - not trying to scare anyone off. I'm a horrible hill climber and if I can do them so can you. I would say all the climbs are very doable even Newport Coast. On top of Newport Coast you will have the most magnificant views - well worth the climb!

So looks like we have about 7 - 8 people. I'll be there early. Bring plenty of water (although there will be places to stop and get replenishment) and snacks.

Ninabike

06-30-2006, 11:01 AM

Hi Pam, My husband, Alex, and I are in for sure. I don't know if you got my e-mail, but my husband was able to get coverage for the day. Can't wait!!

Nina

bcipam

06-30-2006, 11:45 AM

ALEX... Alex, a-l-e-x... Hopefully now I will remember but if not remind me!

Looking forward to seeing you both again. I think I have a really nice, interesting route for us this time.

I can't check my home emails at work so I'll catch your email later today when I get home.

ALSO just a warning - have no idea what parking is going to be like the Park - it's been a real popular place lately with socce camps, girl scout camps, etc (I main have to start our rides somewhere else from now on). If the park is empty I'm going to park as close to bathroom as possible. Just easier to get in and out if we aren't close to the entrance of the parking lot. Look for my car.

Brandy

06-30-2006, 02:02 PM

Pam...would you mind posting your hilly route? Tiff and I are going to have to get some climbing in ASAP and we're hoping to squeeze in a crack of dawn ride sometime this week.

bcipam

06-30-2006, 02:13 PM

Brandy

06-30-2006, 02:42 PM

Well some of the route is in my head and not written down cause frankly its too hard to write down - you would get lost if you didn't have a guide. BUT I'm willing to meet with you guys and do an early ride and I can show you the hills. Otherwise I do have the bottom part of the ride on a route list which I can send to you. It includes enough hilliest to make the ride hard. Send me an email at home and I'll forward the slip... bcipam@yahoo.com

I would love it if you would come out early with us. You do realize that I set my alarm for 5:00 a.m. to get a ride in yesterday morning, don't you? See what you might be getting yourself into? :p

tprevost

06-30-2006, 04:42 PM

that sounds like a perfect route! YIPPEEE!!!!

See ya'll tomorrow in the AM!

Trac'

chartman64

07-01-2006, 01:44 PM

Brandy

07-01-2006, 03:05 PM

How'd the ride go? I did my usual 15-mile ride at 6AM and it was already getting uncomfortably warm when I finished at 7:15. I'm thinking that tomorrow, I'm going to have to start by 5:30 AM, so that I can finish before the sun really gets cooking.

I rode a few mornings ago and left before 6:00 a.m. and it was so much nicer than trying to ride in the heat of the day! I'm going to start making going to bed early a priority so I can get up and get my rides in!

tprevost

07-01-2006, 06:12 PM

Hey There!

It was a great ride but it was pretty warm at the end. I didn't have too much trouble with the heat (it was still a good 15 degrees cooler than here at home :eek: ) but you could tell it was causing everyone to drag!

We started out by going back behind the park to get in some hills... it was absolutely gorgeous back there... WOW!!! Then we took the bike paths towards the coast and ACG and I went with Mike up Newport Coast road... of course I was very slow but it wasn't too difficult. Nina and Alex went with Pam around the hilly area and we met up at a coffee shop for a break then headed back via the bike paths. Per Mike's little satellite thingy we did 44+ miles and about 2000 feet of climbing so it was a step up in difficulty from the first ride.

Brandy, you would definately get lost trying to find your way in the first section; I had NO idea where I was or which direction I was going! I'm sure you and Tiff will whip up those hills though ;)

Anyway, it was great to meet you ACG, thanks for coming out! Nina and Alex, I hope you had a good drive home and have cooled off! And, Pam, thanks once again for the great ride - be sure to tell Mike how much I enjoyed riding w/him and appreciated the water at the end BIG time!

Trac'

Brandy

07-01-2006, 06:17 PM

Sounds like you had a great ride! Tiff and I are planning a hilly ride on Thursday. It should be around 50 miles with 2000 feet of climbing. I'm hoping to start before dawn (did you hear that my friend????? lol) since we're starting off in Back Bay and then on the San Diego Creek Trail for the first part. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping we're done with the climbs on Santiago Canyon Road before it gets blazing hot. Wish us luck!

tprevost

07-01-2006, 07:44 PM

Hot schmott... you ladies are such wimps! right cali???? Okay, just kidding, it was pretty darned toasty today!

That sounds like a good route Brandy! I'll expect a full report w/pictures!!!

Trac'

ACG

07-01-2006, 07:56 PM

I had a great time, because I was surrounded by a great group of people. The hills would have been easier had it not been so hot. Can we do this again in a few weeks? :p

caligurl

07-01-2006, 08:28 PM

Hot schmott... you ladies are such wimps! right cali???? Okay, just kidding, it was pretty darned toasty today!

That sounds like a good route Brandy! I'll expect a full report w/pictures!!!

Trac'

you tell 'em trac!!!!! lol! come out HERE and ride if you want hot! i started at 6 this morning (25 minutes later than i wanted to) and it was already warm!)

sounds like you gals (and guys) had a great ride!!!!!!!!!!!

Brandy

07-01-2006, 09:36 PM

Hey...I've always admitted to being a wimp in the heat! There's no shame in that. :D

bcipam

07-02-2006, 06:24 AM

I posted a quick ride report under July 1 rides.

Hopefully we can get together again soon. Unfortunately all my Saturdays in July are booked with TNC mountain bike rides but I have Sundays open. Could also do a early morning or afternoon ride during the week.

Brandy you and Tiff plan on doing Santiago Canyon? Good for you!!! I was thinking as part of my Cool Breeze Training of doing some early morning rides through the Canyon as well. Starting from my house, up Jamboree and then maybe just going to Blackstar Canyon Rd and turning around and repeating the hills.

I have to say I hate heat. Just hate it. If not training for Cool Breeze, I would probably just be doing spin classes, indoors, where it is cool!

tprevost

07-02-2006, 06:51 AM

Pam (everyone!)

Are any of you open to evening rides? How is OC around 5pm?

Trac'

Brandy

07-02-2006, 09:16 AM

Pam (everyone!)

Are any of you open to evening rides? How is OC around 5pm?

Trac'

Let's see. I didn't go to bed until 2:00 a.m. because it was so bleeping hot in my house upstairs! It's been staying warm here pretty late the last few weeks.

tprevost

07-02-2006, 09:33 AM

yeah, I know whatcha mean Brandy! We've got a two story too and the master bedroom is pretty toasty! A/C is a wonderful thing.... until the bill comes ;)

Trac'

Brandy

07-02-2006, 09:42 AM

yeah, I know whatcha mean Brandy! We've got a two story too and the master bedroom is pretty toasty! A/C is a wonderful thing.... until the bill comes ;)

Trac'

We have no A/C http://www.tinklebelle.com/Smilies/images/boohoo.gif

Tiffanie

07-02-2006, 10:03 AM

We have no A/C http://www.tinklebelle.com/Smilies/images/boohoo.gif

I'm tellin' ya - get a window a/c for your room! They're cheap!

bikerchick68

07-03-2006, 07:35 AM

sounds like you all had a fun ride! Wish I could have come... but I did ride both Sat and Sun this week... got in about 55 miles total and did some climbing yesterday... got a little color and had a good time... thought of you all on Sat :) Hopefully I can catch ya on another one sometime soon!

tprevost

07-03-2006, 07:57 AM

Jen,

I almost called you last Thursday to go to BJ's because I stayed downtown SD Thursday night. The only reason I didn't was because I thought it would be too short of notice - originally I was set to get there around 8 but then at the last minute I ended up getting to leave early and got there at 5 or so. If I don't pass the test, I'll grab you for dinner next time!

Trac'

bcipam

07-03-2006, 12:08 PM

Pam (everyone!)

Are any of you open to evening rides? How is OC around 5pm?

Trac'

I'm always open - went out last night about 6pm with Richard and Wayne and it was glorious out. Got so cool I got chilly. Didn't finish up until about 8:15 just as it was getting dark.

Anytime you want to ride, just let me know - give me a call. I usually ride during the week starting round 5:30p.