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Kathi
09-04-2001, 05:07 PM
Terry butterfly, felt like I had a 2X4 between my legs. The bike shop worked and worked to make sure it was right. But it was still miserable.
Kathi

Daisey
03-09-2003, 06:00 PM
I am a fairly new rider and I've got the Terry Butterfly seat that came with my Terry bike. I find I have to tilt it down one notch to keep from getting numb, but other than that once I set the seat height, etc. properly, I didn't have any more trouble. I also move my butt around every so often to give my body a change of pace. I'm going to try the new butterfly gel seat to see if that gives more comfort in the crotch area, as I am still getting used to riding longer distances, and sometimes feel a little "bruised" in sensitive anatomy from being on a firm seat, but have heard seats with gel in them can cause problems from compression. So a seat with gel inserts may not be the answer either. More time training in the saddle probably is.

Most bike shops give excellent service, and it sounds as though yours has tried very hard to please you, but sometimes you have to experiment a little bit by yourself (make one small change at a time) because our bodies do not always follow a standard "norm" that shops go by.Books, bike shops, etc. only give a starting point to work from. Your body will tell you what you need, but again, only one small change at a time. Try adjusting your seat yourself bit by bit and see if that helps.

It may also be that the Butterfly just will not work for you. Talk to the folks at Terry. They are wonderful people and will most likely be able to suggest a different saddle for you to try. They have excellent cusrtomer service, and a good money back satisfaction guarantee.

Daisey
03-09-2003, 06:06 PM
Hi Kathi, it's me again. I forgot to mention that it is also important to invest in the best biking shorts you can afford. Buy something that has a women's specific chamois in it, and one that will wick moisture away. Go to teamestrogen.com, and also terrybicycles.com and check out what they have. Team Estrogen has a technical description on several different chamois and their characteristics.

Terry makes an excellent bike short, as does Shebeest. Shebeest brand's chamois wicks moisture away really well, if that is also a concern of yours.

BikeMomma
12-10-2004, 12:01 AM
Daisey, just wanted to say a quick thank you for the shorts tip. I've been out of cycling for about ten years, desperately fighting time issues to get back into it, and looking at what's available for women now, the dilemma was "ok now who has the best ones?". You may have answered that - thanks.:)

CorsairMac
12-10-2004, 11:31 AM
BikeMomma - Loved your signature line!

BikeMomma
02-21-2005, 04:15 PM
BikeMomma - Loved your signature line!



Thanks, Corsair! (sorry I'm only just now responding) Truth is, I've never met a grouchy one! At one time or another, they always flash a smile! :D

I like your handle as well. When I was a kid, my older brothers were really into airplanes - they even conducted tours, as teenagers themselves, at the Castle Air Museum here in Atwater. They would quiz each other, then quiz me as well, so that's how I sortof got drawn into appreciating WWII history. I think the Corsair was/is my favorite WWII fighter plane, maybe just because of its distinctive shape and service record. Awesome piece of machinery. If you ever make over here to Atwater, a visit to the Museum is a must. There's just about every plane from every era imaginable. Even an SR71 Nighthawk. Way cool...

Have a great day :) (lousy weather tho :( )
- Kim

emily_in_nc
02-22-2005, 06:03 PM
Terry butterfly, felt like I had a 2X4 between my legs. The bike shop worked and worked to make sure it was right. But it was still miserable.
Kathi

It's so interesting how different we all are. I have Terry Butterflies on my three road bikes and love them. Have ridden several centuries and a self-supported tour averaging 65 miles per day on them. I tried a Terry Damselfly at one point b/c I thought it was sexy, and 2x4 was exactly how I described it. I gave it a fighting chance but ended up selling it.

Good lucky finding a saddle that works for you! A lot of women seem to like Serfas.

Emily

caligurl
02-23-2005, 07:22 AM
i'm in the process of trying a terry butterfly. put it on the bike saturday.. YUCK! hubby moved it forward and tilted it down a few times during our ride...

it was getting there...

sunday we started out and i still wasn't happy... so we stopped for him to move it forward and tilt it down a bit more... i finished the ride and think we may have it!

i was riding on the dolce seat that came with my bike... and the butterfly looks a lot like it (size-wise) but maybe a tad bit less squishy....

we'll see after i get on it this week (if the rain stops) or this weekend!

caligurl
02-28-2005, 07:13 AM
ugh... no... we don't have it on the butterfly :mad: i'm not giving up yet... but i'm getting there.

i didn't ride all week... (no motivation and rain).. so saturday i get on the bike and after 25 miles i'm miserable (i wasn't comfortable the first 25.. but after 25 it was awful! i did manage to get in 40 miles though.. but a LOT of shifting, standing, moving around...

so sunday hubby and i start out... stil not comfortable.. so he does some adjusting after about 5 miles... i ride a while.. and it's still not good... i had to stop after 30 miles.. i just didn't want to deal with the uncomforatbleness (ya.. not a word) anymore! i don't know what to tell him to do to adjust it.. so i just tell him where it hurts/annoys me... i try moving back on the seat.. no relief.. forward.. nope... UGH!

i can't believe the stock dolce is more comfortable than a butterfly!

DeniseGoldberg
02-28-2005, 07:28 AM
ugh... no... we don't have it on the butterfly :mad: i'm not giving up yet... but i'm getting there...

i can't believe the stock dolce is more comfortable than a butterfly!

Caligurl -
Wow - I have to hand it to you. I can't believe you've actually managed 2 rides on that very uncomfortable saddle. I tried the Terry Butterfly many years ago. It lasted on my bike all of 15 minutes - I couldn't stand it. I realize that we're all different and the saddle that works for me might not work for you, and as Emily said the butterfly works for her! Just in case... the saddle that finally worked for me (the 4th saddle I tried, if you can believe that!) is the Fi'zi:k (http://www.fizik.it) Vitesse, which is listed on their web site as a unisex saddle. Go figure! Anyway, it might be worth a try.

Good luck - and hopefully the next one you try will be the right saddle for you.

--- Denise

caligurl
02-28-2005, 07:31 AM
hi denise.. it's actually been 4 rides! i rode with it last weekend too! this weekend it just seemed a lot worse than last!

thanx for the tip on the fi'zi:k.. ya know.. hubby just got a new fi'zi:k (arionne or something like that i think.. very sexy looking saddle!) he fell it love with it the first ride!

i'm gonna check out the one you recommended on their site right now!

worst case is i'll have to get another specialized dolce!

pedalfaster
02-28-2005, 01:54 PM
I'm glad I'm not alone. :o
I've tried Terry saddles (both the butterfly and the men's fly) and I , uhm, fall into them (yeah, I know way, way TMI).

I've decided I'm just not a cut-out kinda gal! :eek:

Put me down as yet another happy Fizik user.

preeder
08-18-2005, 04:34 PM
I think sometimes riders decide that padding is the main comfort factor. The Fizik Vitesse goes the other way--very minimalist. Smooth, narrow and just enough padding for the sitz bones. It's great for the rider who balances weight between hands, feet and butt. Nothing rubs, no cutouts with tough edges. It's the best once you decide you don't need a pillow wedged between your legs.

I've never had a Terry seat, but when I was doing my original research on seats after I concluded that the one that came with my bike was just not right, there were many comments about the lack of quality control on the Terry seats. Comments about the varying thickness of padding and the variance between the different sides of the saddle. After reading all the comments, and knowing how a mm can make a difference in comfort on a bike, I wonder if quality control might be at the root of some of the problems people are experiencing.

veloputt
12-12-2005, 05:40 PM
To throw my two cents in--I once had a Terry Liberator racing saddle years and years ago that I liked (though I sold it with the bike), then stopped riding for a few years, got back to the riding my other road bike, with another Terry Liberator saddle--had the cut-out, but didn't like it. Then I tried the Terry Butterfly racing version. I had been commuting 17 miles each way to work, a few times week, and after a few days using this saddle and icing my tender bits when I'd get home :eek: , I had to find something else. (And I have great PI shorts and tried different positions). After some research, I invested in the Fizik Alliente--though it's the men's version, I absolutely love it! It's so much easier to sit back on the bones w/ the flex wing design, I am able to keep the pressure off the sensitive bits that the Terry cut-outs only seemed to aggravate! Bellisimo!

veloputt
12-13-2005, 11:55 AM
Just for the record: it's the Fizik Arione that I own and love--w/ the flex "wings"--not the Alliente...

Kyna
02-13-2006, 06:18 AM
I've never had a Terry seat, but when I was doing my original research on seats after I concluded that the one that came with my bike was just not right, there were many comments about the lack of quality control on the Terry seats. Comments about the varying thickness of padding and the variance between the different sides of the saddle. After reading all the comments, and knowing how a mm can make a difference in comfort on a bike, I wonder if quality control might be at the root of some of the problems people are experiencing.


Wow, where did you find that research? I have to admit I've been a Butterfly user for about 2 years now. Its usually pretty comfortable but after mile 30+ I get a bit sore especially on the right side to the point I get sores (BUtt'r helps alot). I tried turning the saddle a bit to take the pressure off the right side a bit, but this makes alot of sense.

I'm to that point though... do I really want to mess with going though more saddle fitting all over again... or do I just deal with it. Usually most of my rides are fairly good, except when I had to take a week off for sores at the start of this year.

Here's another question... whats the lifetime for a typical saddle? How do I know when its time to replace it?

betagirl
03-22-2006, 04:58 PM
Hiya

I have a Terry butterfly saddle and I like it. I do have to admit it took me longer to get used to it than the Terry Liberator gel I have on my other bike. But I got it last season when I got my new bike and I had to do some adjusting to get it comfy. But now I just hopped on my bike and rode about 15 miles the other weekend after being off of it for 4 months and I wasn't sore. So I guess as has been said, we're all different. I'm sorry it's being a PITA for you. :D

eofelis
03-26-2006, 09:23 AM
I have a a Terry Liberator Ti Race on both my road bike and touring bike. Never had a problem with either of them. I also have a regular Terry Liberator, it's not my favorite, but it works fine for me.

Nokomis
05-01-2006, 06:55 PM
Geez, I can't get thru the fi'zi:k website without hearing a bad Italian-American accent as I read thru :D

luv'nAustin
05-01-2006, 07:42 PM
I have a butterfly and really like it alot. It has never made me sore. However, I must admit that I have never ridden more than 65 miles at one time. Wish I could say the same about my feet!

Nokomis
06-16-2006, 07:13 AM
I've been going thru a ton of saddles to try to find something that works ~ and last night DH brought home the Butterfly... because the shop owner said it was what he sells to all the girls. Someone must love it - but OW! I will make an adjustment and give it one more (short) try, but if I stand after a short ride only to feel the blood rush back to that region? No Go.

Oh - and DH is a little frustrated that he wasn't able to swoop in & solve the problem... I don't think guys get how particular this issue can be.

mimitabby
06-16-2006, 06:48 PM
Oh - and DH is a little frustrated that he wasn't able to swoop in & solve the problem... I don't think guys get how particular this issue can be.

YEsterday i almost got into it with one of my coworkers who started giving me
sh## about my brooks saddle being so heavy. I work with all men who all seem to ride on little bar-shaped saddles.
I finally had to say; "let's not go there" because it's bad enough talking about girly parts and the nether regions with the SO but to have to talk about it
to a bunch of numbnuts (literally!) that you work with; I guess they're just going to have to think I'm a little goofy because i have that big heavy saddle on my slick new road bike.

ChainsOflove
06-17-2006, 09:14 AM
THAT'S TERRIBLE!! JUST IGNORE THOSE JERKS!!!:mad: