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Veronica
05-21-2006, 07:41 AM
Well, I finished. :) I started riding with MP amd Mr. MP. We jumped onto a tandem train and that shot my HR up. I was afraid that if I stayed that high I'd crash and burn, so I jumped off the train. In retrospect, I wish I had stayed longer. I think I can probably push my HR 5 beats higher than I have been.

I rode by myself most of the day. Every now and then I'd latch onto a group as they passed me. I'd usually hang with them until we started a climb. Being men, they climbed faster than I do. I skipped the first rest stop, I didn't need anything other than a bathroom and there was a line for it.

At the second rest stop I discovered that this ride does not have Sustain or Gatorade. They refuel you with Cytomax - bleech! I know some folks love the stuff. So I was now on a water only in the bottle regimen. Usually I eat something solid every 30 minutes and drink food every 15. I started eating every 15 minutes at this point. That worked well. I especially liked the orange sport beans SK gave me. They are tangy and that was good.

I skipped the third rest stop. At the fourth rest stop, they didn't have any ice. I tried washing my Advil down with warm V8. It was my first experience with V8 and will not be repeated. I can't imagine liking it even when it's cold. :D

I stopped at rest stop 5 because they had real bathrooms. It's so nice to be able to wash your hands with real soap and water, instead of wet wipes. I also wanted to make sure I had full water bottles because the climbing began after this. One of the workers had just finished making a honey and peanut peanut sandwich. It looked yummy, so I took half of it off his hands.

Due to storm damage there was a route change this year and the ride had 800 more feet of climbing than in the past. I was somewhat amused to hear people whining about the climbing. You gotta remember, my last big ride had more climbing in 100 miles than this did in 200. But Davis is often the first double for a lot of people and the climb was tough. I had a lot of people comment on my small front chain ring - wishing they had one so small - 24 teeth. It's tiny! I like it! :D

I was going to skip the 6th rest stop at mile 105, I was doing okay on water and didn't need a bathroom and it was a mile below the summit. But I noticed the riders had soda cans! A soda! Yeah a soda would be good! That coke really hit the spot. AND... they had more orange flavored sport beans! Yes! I grabbed a couple of packs and continued up the climb.

We had been warned that the descent was treacherous - twisty, bumpy and a gravel section. Okay - I'll agree with the gravel section. But not what I would call a treacherous descent. It was fun! I passed a few people here.

The Lunch stop was next. Another peanut butter sandwich, this time with jelly, some pretzils, a few strawberries and I was on the road again, with more climbing. I climbed up this section with a guy I had ridden with at Solvang. He has an orange Rivendell, which I recognized from behind. It was good to have someone to chat with on this climb.

Rest stop 7 was at the top of the last climb. I think I had a soda here and refilled my bottles. Then we had some more fast descending. At the bottom of the fast descent we turned right and had a beautiful section of road along the Cache Creek. This was my favorite part of the ride - in spite of the headwind. We were still descending and it was just so gorgeous. Most of the time we were next to the creek, in the middle of this narrow canyon.

I skipped rest stop 8 and was pretty much by myself for a long time. I was beginning to get tired, after 160 miles I think that's appropriate and my back was beginning to hurt like it did on DMD. Hello stupid - start doing some yoga and swim! I don't think it had fully recovered from DMD, as it's bothered me a little bit on just about every ride I've done since. And it's the muscles, they're just not up to the task of supporting my upper body for so long. We know how to fix that. :p The route is still descending at about a 1% grade. And I'm playing this game with myself. When I get to 19 mph, I can coast. When my speed drops to 18, I have to pedal again. Whatever it takes to get you through.

I get passed by a train, and one of the women says, "Hop on." So I do thinking, "Okay they caught me, they must be going faster." But something went wrong. We'd be doing 19 - 20, then slow to 12. The train broke up before the next rest stop, where I had an orange soda and turned on my rear lights. it wasn't quite dark, but I had a little more than 20 miles to go and didn't want to stop again.

The last twenty miles were hard. My back was bothering me, my butt was beginning to hurt and I just wanted to be done. The return into Davis was kind of confusing - a lot of turns and some of them not really well marked. I was so happy to have my GPS at this point.

The end was nice, there were a few people there cheering you in, including my honey and a woman from my local club. I gave Thom most of my pasta dinner. It was good, but I just wasn't ready to eat a lot. I didn't have the same euphoria at the end that I had at Solvang. I think part of that was the course. The first 30 miles and the last 40 are BORING! Flat, nothing really to look at...It's a good first double to do. I'm a little disappointed with my average speed. I'd hoped for more than 14. I don't think I pushed myself hard enough at the beginning. I averaged 13.4 for the first 105 miles, and 14.5 for the second hundred. But it's so hard to judge with such a long ride.

V.

Total Mileage: 205.1 miles
Total Climb: 8458 feet
Total Time: 15:50
Avg. Speed: 13.9 mph

snapdragen
05-21-2006, 07:49 AM
Congratulations Princess Zippy, you did good!

yellow
05-21-2006, 07:51 AM
Good go, V. After your stories about back pain and my own experiences with it recently on long rides, I'm doing more ab work to prepare for my double in August. :D

You didn't speak of headwinds. Were you lucky enough to not have it too bad? And as for your speed, better to ride conservatively than to blow it out and maybe, just maybe, suffer all the more towards the end. I think you done good. You are such an inspiration!

DirtDiva
05-21-2006, 07:54 AM
Nice work. :) That's just unimaginably far once I turn it into kilometres!

maillotpois
05-21-2006, 08:03 AM
Great report! Reading it, I almost felt like I'd been there - wait - I was!

As V said, we started together and, as I knew he would, DH wanted to ride just a bit faster than I really wanted to. But this was the same as last year, and I made it, so I decided to just go with it. Plus, this would be our only double together as DH has decided he's "over" them. So we hammered the first part - skipped RS 1, climbed to the dam.

I started getting some back pain for a bit after Cardiac - I'd had some issues this week, not cycling related. But the rollers into Pope Valley I love - we worked with a very fast group. It's funny, every double I do when we get into an aggressive section, guys always compliment me on taking strong pulls at the front. They never compliment DH!

In general, I was pretty happy with my overall speed - especially climbing. DH always complains that I hold too much in reserve. THis year, having done a 600k, I had more of a mental reserve to draw from, and I knew that if I pushed myself above my comfort zone, I'd recover. I also discovered I climb a lot faster when DH is behind me. He gets on front and says he's not going to go fast, but either he is or I feel like he is and I feel like I can't stay with him. Well, I actually gapped him on Cardiac, and when I was on front on Resurrection I was climbing at a very good pace for me.

Cobb Mountain did make the course significantly harder than last year - but boy was it beautiful! DH went ahead and waited for me at the RS, and I climbed most of it with Robo.

We skipped 3 rest stops altogether. However, this year, we stopped at the last one for water. We skipped that one last year (only 8 miles from the end), and I am so glad we stopped this year - grilled cheese sandwiches!!!

My V8 count was relatively low for me - only 6 all day. :D Unlike V, I really love the V8 and will usually have 2 per RS. I think at Tam Double I had 8 or 10. I carried drink mix, which I usually do because I never know what people will be serving. I don't like Cytomax either, but I know a lot of folks do. You can't please everyone, so I guess ride organizers just get whatever they can get the best deal on.

Coming down off Resurrection into the Cache Creek area, we got caught by this guy on a recumbent. It was very windy, so working with him was better than not - but I could never get in front of him to take a pull because he was just so aero, and I felt badly about that. So I pulled up next to him, and started talking to him - explaining that we were more than willing to work, but I couldn't get past him. He was very nice, and it turns out he was on his second lap of the double because he's training for RAAM. He knows my friend Nicole (who'd invited me to join her for an extra 100 before the double), and we talked about PBP and the 508.

It's funny how many people I know on these crazy rides. I know about 5 folks through TNT who do the doubles, and another handful of people I have gotten to know just from doing these rides. We rode wth Gerd for a bit. I think he's in his late 60's - 70's. He was in Wheelworks the day before when we were there and he'd taco'ed his wheel - riding to Chicago. He's at all the doubles, and is so sweet. And boy he can hold a wheel! You just start seeing the same faces. Though Davis is a much bigger crowd. It will be interesting to see who's at Eastern Sierra in 2 weeks.

I was sorry we couldn't stick around at the end to see V finish but we had to get home to Em. Glad you had a good ride, V. I'd like to plan to do Tam or Knoxville together - I think we would have fun!

Off to eat something!

aka_kim
05-21-2006, 08:16 AM
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tprevost
05-21-2006, 08:20 AM
Well Done Ladies!

Thank you both for writing such great reports! It makes me want to go do a double :eek: oh, wait, I haven't even done a 'single' yet! :p But still, you both make it sound like a fabulous adventure and I thank you for sharing your stories! Did anyone take any pictures? I know there were a couple from SK on another thread but any more? LOVE those pics!!!

Tracy

jobob
05-21-2006, 08:59 AM
Hi Traci -

The ride yesterday with SK and Kim et al. followed the DD route for a few miles, we started out from Winters and went up Cardiac Hill and we turned off of the DD route at Muskovite Corners. (Not that I'd expect you to know this area, but in case some folks do.) I was passed by a lot of hard-bodies along the way and it was fun to chat with some of them (esp. going uphill where they didn't pass me quite as fast :rolleyes:).

One thing SK mentioned after the ride - and I noticed too - was that the people riding the double century seemed on a whole to be a lot more considerate and easy-going that the types one might encounter on a century "hammer-fest" ride. Perhaps it's becasue double century riders have that much more experience? Just a thought.

At any rate, when I first realized our route was to coincide early on with the Davis Double, I was a little apprehensive - I had visions of being run off the road by huge agressive pacelines ! - but that never happened. There were a couple of dorks out there but nothing like I've experienced on past organized rides.

Here's a photo I took somewhere along the Davis Double route between our start in Winters and before the climb up Cardiac- that's Kim just ahead of me. It was awfully pretty out there !

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SadieKate
05-21-2006, 09:04 AM
That pic is on route 128 west of Lake Solano and before you get into the canyon going up to the Monticello Dam on Lake Berryessa.

It is very pretty out there and yes, yellow, we lucked out and had incredible weather. Rain Friday night, dry and cool Saturday, rain again this morning. Maybe it's on its way to Yewtah.

maillotpois
05-21-2006, 09:04 AM
Jo - that's absolutely true about the double riders, and one of the things I really like about doubles. It is a much more relaxed and friendly crowd than regular century "racer" types. Everyone is very encouraging and supportive of everyone else. Davis is a much bigger group, so it's not as noticeable, but you still get a sense of it.

jobob
05-21-2006, 09:15 AM
Coming down off Resurrection into the Cache Creek area, we got caught by this guy on a recumbent. [...] He was very nice, and it turns out he was on his second lap of the double because he's training for RAAM. He knows my friend Nicole (who'd invited me to join her for an extra 100 before the double), and we talked about PBP and the 508. I was riding along the rolly section between Cardiac and Muskovite Corners with SK's friend Ed when a DD rider drew up and started chatting with us. (Seems like my trusty Carradice bag was quite the conversation starter :) )

He told us about the guy on the recumbent wow and he also mentioned that he was thinking about doing an extra 100 before this ride with a woman friend of his (but couldn't on account of a scheduling problem), so I imagine he too was talking about your friend. I didn't catch his name - or if I did the minor hypoxia I was experiencing trying to keep up with those guys and carry on a conversation destroyed those particular brain cells - but he was from Southern CA (Hermosa Beach, perhaps?), and he was doing this ride to prepare for the Santa Cruz Randonneurs' 600K next weekend Gahhh

Trekhawk
05-21-2006, 10:45 AM
Congratulations girls. I cant imagine riding that far or climbing that much.
WOW fantastic stuff.:)

Selkie
05-21-2006, 10:50 AM
Gals---I hope you had some Klondikes when you got home. GOOD WORK!

Veronica
05-21-2006, 10:58 AM
Thanks!

I've kicked my Klondike habit. :p Somehow I got it into my head that losing a few more pounds would be good for my climbing. I don't believe in "dieting", so I just kind of made a few changes - no more Klondike a day was one of them.

To me "dieting" means depriving yourself and cannot be maintained long term. Others with more will power can make it work.


V.

SadieKate
05-21-2006, 11:03 AM
But the Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Nirvana shake disappeared fast! And ride day is different.

Veronica
05-21-2006, 11:27 AM
I only ate about half or less of it. I put the lid on and then went to change and somehow it disappeared. Thom was starving!

V.

Geonz
05-21-2006, 01:06 PM
Just curious: 200 miles or 200 Km?

Veronica
05-21-2006, 01:09 PM
miles

why must responses be at least ten characters long?

snapdragen
05-21-2006, 03:16 PM
why must responses be at least ten characters long?

I'd guess it's the software, the "other" forum is the same way.

yellow
05-21-2006, 03:27 PM
One thing SK mentioned after the ride - and I noticed too - was that the people riding the double century seemed on a whole to be a lot more considerate and easy-going that the types one might encounter on a century "hammer-fest" ride. Perhaps it's becasue double century riders have that much more experience? Just a thought.
Jo--after my experience yesterday at the C here, I've pretty much decided that I will no longer ride in the "hammer fest" type of rides. Yesterday's ride was probably one of the worst I've been in from that perspective and I found myself saying more than once "It's just not worth it." One of the riders that went down was a ~10 year old kid, apparently riding without an escort nearby, wildly out of control.

That being said, I sure hope LRRH is saner. I spoke with one of the members of BBTC a little about it yesterday and she assured me LRRH is indeed more laid back. And I'm glad to hear that doubles tend to be as well. Hopefully I'll be able to confirm that!

Sorry for the hijack! :o

Veronica
05-21-2006, 03:48 PM
Bummer that you didn't have a good ride Yellow. A lot of people just aren't thinking about the others around them. I had a bit of that yesterday - it upset me so much called Thom. I had dropped my sunglasses and turned around to get them, crossed back across the road in front of a group, with plenty of room to spare. But one of the the riders freaked and swerved. Naturally the group blamed me.

I suppose I could have left my $250 sunglasses Or allowed them to be run over by this group.

Whatever.

V.

SadieKate
05-21-2006, 04:40 PM
That being said, I sure hope LRRH is saner. I don't recall one instance of hammerfest intimidation.

Lise
05-21-2006, 06:56 PM
You guys are amazing. The distance, the climbs, the fortitude, the ability to remember details for your reports--I love it. Thanks! :D L.

Brandy
05-21-2006, 06:57 PM
You guys are amazing. The distance, the climbs, the fortitude, the ability to remember details for your reports--I love it. Thanks! :D

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cindysue
05-21-2006, 07:54 PM
congrats to both of you!

very inspiring. Can't wait to hear about #3!

Deanna
05-22-2006, 12:37 PM
You two are amazing! I'm so glad the weather held out for you. When I went to bed Friday night I was thinking of you and hoping the rain would not be an issue.