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maillotpois
04-24-2006, 02:53 PM
Wow - this turned out long. But I know when I read Nanci's 600k report I still wanted more detail and kept pestering her with questions. So skim or go to the bottom for the more desperate and funny stuff.

There are many reasons I decided to do the San Francisco Randonneur 600k, but I wasn’t really sure any of them were strong enough to compel me to finish it once I was out there. I just had to hope that I could keep talking myself into continuing.

The route was a challenging one with over 16,000 feet of climbing. We would start at the Golden Gate Bridge and ride to Fort Bragg and back, with the return route slightly different than the outbound route. I arrived at the start fully loaded with advice and words of wisdom from friends who’ve done events like this. I knew I was prepared to handle weather conditions (it’s been raining non stop here) and most mechanical issues.

What made me the most nervous about the route was a 60 mile stretch of highway 128 from the coast to Cloverdale. We’d be riding this at night and early in the morning. There are scary people out there, drivers who hate bikes and narrow roads. I was basically okay with the concept of riding through the night, conceptually, but I was very nervous about the possibility of being alone on highway 128 at 2 in the morning. My friend Paul who was doing the event suggested I make contact with the only other woman who was doing it, Nicole, who had done the FC 508 solo. I met her that morning and she was amazingly warm and friendly and supportive. She said if our paces worked, we should ride together and I was relieved. Most of the other riders looked a bit too fast and bike race-y than I wanted to be on an untested distance.

My longest ride ever was 200 miles. This ride was 375 miles. Generally, people who do the brevet series do the whole series: 200k, 300k, 400k and then 600k. Due to my schedule, the 600k just worked out. I was a bit concerned that the leap in distance would be a problem, but another friend had said any training ride over 200 miles was a waste and that you can do 600k on a 200 mile long ride. I just kept telling myself that and I’m still not sure if he was lying to me or not!! Anyway, when I met Todd, the RBA (basically the head dude for the brevet), Nicole told him this was my first ever brevet. He looked a little taken aback. He said, “Well, have you done the FC508? Have you done RAAM?” And I’m thinking well, those rides are longer, so why would that be relevant? It was clear, though, that he was a little concerned about me doing this ride.

After talking to some of the people on the ride, it became clear that I happened to choose the most difficult 600k in Northern California to test myself out. There are at least two other brevet series available here, but this one has the reputation of having the most difficult courses. Oh well. I was comforted by the knowledge that 65% of the route was very familiar territory for me.

We start out from the Golden Gate bridge at 7 Saturday morning. Everyone stays together for the most part for the first 5 - 10 miles, and splits up on the first climb, Camino Alto. I stay with Nicole who seems to be riding just a notch slower than my double century pace which is fine by me. My goal is to stay in basically a recovery zone (perceived - I don’t use a HRM) for the whole ride. We make it to the first control at 35 miles (Point Reyes Station) in very good time, comfortably. Todd the RBA rode out with us as far as that control, and checked us in. Then we head to Petaluma.

At about mile 50, we leave the territory of my normal from-home training rides, and climb the little hill on Red Hill Road to go to Petaluma. (It may, in fact, be Red Hill, but I don’t want to assume.) I’ve climbed that hill a dozen times, but now my legs feel absolutely dead - nothing in them. I tell myself that this would pass, reminding myself that I’d cycle through any number of pains and lows and I would eventually come out of them. I didn’t know for sure if that was true for this distance, but it has been true for rides up to 200 miles. It turns out to be true.

I am descending and riding on the flats a bit quicker than Nicole, and arrive at the second control a bit earlier. At our second control in Petaluma (mile 57) we meet up with another rider, Ken, and the three of us ride together all the way to the third control in Healdsburg (mile 87). The 50 miles between these controls will be the flattest of the whole ride and pass quickly.

The controls are basically way points where you have to buy something, get a receipt with your name on it and put your arrival time in the brevet card. There is a window of time within which you must reach the controls. It is a very generous time window. Most of our controls were at Safeway stores, which print your name on the receipt if you have a club card. Safeway also has pretty good soup. I didn’t know what I’d want to eat on the ride, but in my usual fashion I packed and carried way too much: sport beans, clif blocks, nuts, trail mix. I still have 70% of the food I carried. I ate clif blocks religiously through about mile 150 and then put one in my mouth and almost threw up. At the controls, I would generally buy soup and chocolate milk and more gatorade.

After the Healdsburg control, we ride to Cloverdale. 5 miles from Cloverdale, the skies open up with rain that was so hard it was difficult to breathe. We stop and get geared up to try to stay as dry as possible. It rains hard through about the next 40 miles.

From Cloverdale to the coast, we ride on highway 128, which is the road we will come back on in the dead of night. I try not to overanalyze each descent and worry about how difficult a climb it will be on the return route. I am descending much quicker than Nicole and we get separated. I stop in Boonville for a drink and decide to continue on alone, knowing we will likely meet up in Fort Bragg. The stretch of Hwy. 128 seems interminable. I keep thinking I will see the coast soon, but it takes forever. I try to make myself familiar with the road, noting where the sheep farms or wineries are, so that it feels comfortable when I return in darkness.

Finally, I reach Hwy. 1 and the coast. I have to ride about 20 miles north to the turn around at Ft. Bragg. There are some difficult climbs on 1, but I just plod along. I meet up with another rider, Kevin, and we stay together to Ft. Bragg. It turns out he also lives in Mill Valley. He has a motel room reserved in Ft. Bragg, but I convince him he should try to ride with a group back to Cloverdale where Paul and I had reserved a room at mile 260. We reach the Ft. Bragg Safeway control point (181 miles) at about 9:00 p.m. I eat some fairly bad soup and drink a Starbucks double shot. I am really having to force food in at this point. Nothing is appealing. Nicole and Ken arrive at the Safeway. We all spend some time getting our lights ready and talking to a somewhat lonely mentally challenged local on a bike who tells us he thinks we may make it to San Francisco in about 2 or 3 days’ time. He doesn’t seem to believe we’ve “just” come from there. He talks at length about logging trucks and drunk drivers. All in all it is not very reassuring.

We start out in the dark together at about 9:30 pm. We’re finally riding towards home. It seems to take a long time to ride the 20 miles to hwy. 128. When we get there, we’re enveloped in redwood trees and it is incredibly dark. My light is working great, though I am keeping it on a very low setting because I don’t want the battery to run out before the descent into Cloverdale. The three folks I am riding with have stashed water and cokes in a couple of the towns along the 60 mile stretch of 128. It is a great excuse for some much needed breaks. When we stop at the first stash, I lie down on the pavement. I suddenly feel like I have bed spins and every nerve ending in my body is on fire. I decide it is better not to lie down. I have been drinking gatorade all day and my stomach is starting to feel bad. In Fort Bragg, I’d finally put water into my camelback which was full of Power Bar performance recovery drink powder. This seems to be much better on the stomach and I start to feel better. I also have some nuts. Maybe I am nuts.

At our second stop in Cloverdale, there are some creepy people driving around in fast cars and congregating at the fair grounds. I am so happy I am with three other people. We start the long climb to Yorkville. I am climbing a bit slower than the others, but descending fast (gravity, go figure). I also feel really comfortable descending in the dark with my nite rider on my helmet. I feel much more relaxed than I expected to.

At Yorkville we have about 15 miles to the motel in Cloverdale, but also a very long climb. Kevin and I decide to rest for a bit. I lie down on a doormat in front of the door to a closed convenience store. It smells a bit of cat pee. I use a space blanket, but I am shivering violently. After about 15 minutes, we decide that we should keep riding. It has been raining lightly most of the time.

The climbs seem to go on forever, but since it is dark, I can’t see where the top is. It’s as if I am riding in a quiet bubble of darkness. I know there are any number of animals to either side. At one point, I look to the side of the road and there are two deer staring back at me, their eyes reflecting my light back at me. Another time, I look to the side and there is an opossum right next to the road - I yell so he doesn’t run in front of me. We see a bat. It has finally stopped raining.

Once we reach the top of the hill, I start the descent and am soon alone. Descending in the dark is like jumping into a pool of water. You can’t see what is beyond the light of your headlamp. It is peaceful and much more relaxing than I expected. I descend so quickly that I reach Cloverdale a good 5 minutes before Kevin, Ken and Nicole. Ken and Nicole are going to continue riding. I know Nicole is a veteran brevet rider and goes through the night. This is amazing to me. I know I might not sleep, but I just want to get off the bike for a little bit and be horizontal.

It is 5:30 in the morning. Kevin and I go to the Best Western where Paul’s already in the room. He got in a couple of hours before we did. We lie down and I try to relax. I have a very hard time sleeping and am having trouble staying warm. I think I finally sleep for about 45 minutes and at about 7, I get up and start getting ready. Most of my clothes are still a bit wet. I had taken my clean shorts out of the large ziploc bag for some reason and they are wet. I put them on and put my dirty knickers over them. I do have dry socks.

We go to the control, which is a McDonald’s. I have the world’s best Egg McMuffin and chocolate milk and coffee. I am thinking that the rest of the ride is going to be fun and easy. It’s only 110 miles, and most of it is over terrain that I have ridden and even ride regularly. I expect that I should be able to finish within 8 or 9 hours - it’s only a century after all. I am so mistaken that it’s not funny.

Paul, Kevin and I ride down to Healdsburg (mile 275) and to Gurneville (mile 293). I am gradually becoming slower and slower. Out of Gurneville, the climb up Bohemian Highway, nothing very challenging, wipes me out. Paul has left already and Kevin keeps having to wait for me. I tell him to go on, and finally at Tomales I am alone.

There’s some sort of Harley Davidson rally going on and hundreds of motorcycles keep going by. They’re the kind where the rider sits back with their feet up and their hands on handle bars high in the air. They try to make the engines go particularly loud when they pass me. I decide they are overcompensating for male physical shortcomings. I stop in Tomales and buy earplugs and Pringles at the general store.

By this point, my crotch has really started to hurt. I convince myself I have left my chamois butter in the motel room. I can picture where I left it, on the edge of the tub. I try to spend as much time as possible standing. Since my knees are very tired, standing and pedaling is painful. I stand and coast a lot. I am going very slowly.

With 60 - 80 miles to go I am completely miserable. I think about calling my friends Holly or Stacy for encouragement, but thinking about calling makes me feel emotional and I worry I might cry and when I cry I hyperventilate and that would be counter productive. I am struggling to go 10 miles and hour into a mild headwind.

For the last 4 hours of the ride, I repeatedly alternately say either (1) “Okay” out loud in the sing-songy tone of voice you would use to calm a large animal or diffuse a hostage situation or (2) “F@ck!” very loudly. My bike’s shifting has become sluggish. I can’t blame it. Parts of my body I did not know had nerves hurt.

With 40 miles to go I am on a road I ride every week. I usually ride this road at 18 - 22 miles an hour. I struggle to hold 10. Now I have 25 miles to go. I text message Michael saying it will be at least 2 hours. They are having a birthday dinner for his dad and I am missing it. He writes super supportive things back but I feel like such a heel for not being there for the party.

I enjoy two fun descents which lift my spirits and am in Fairfax. 15 miles to go. After my last semi-suicidal text message, Michael is concerned and calls me. I feel better and I tell him not to worry. He tells me he’s coming to meet me at the finish. I am really touched by this and it gives me energy to go a little faster. With 10 miles to go I am completely out of water. My gym is on the route and I run in, past folks on ellipticals, and fill a bottle. One the last two climbs I am being passed by everyone. I am worried I may have to stop and walk, but I don’t.

I’m finally on the Golden Gate bridge. I usually hate riding on the bridge because it is loud and windy and narrow. I love it now, especially after the half-way point when the bridge slopes down and I can stand and coast, my favorite posture. I reach the vista point and there’s Todd, the RBA, amazed that I made it. He says some extremely complimentary things. I find my chamois butter at the bottom of my Camelback when I get my jacket out.

Then my father in law and mother in law drive up. My sister in law and brother in law and their two kids pull up. Todd the RBA is stunned by the reception and fanfare. My sister in law calls Michael who apparently was trying to find me on the course. I guess knowing he was going to meet me at the end made me speed up and I cam in faster than I thought. Michael and Emily and my dear friend Holly drive up. I have the largest reception anyone’s ever had for a brevet, except maybe PBP.

I posted this part on BikeJournal. I really learned a lot on this ride. For example:

- While it's nice to be prepared, I probably didn't need to lug 6 tubes and 8 CO2s. (I got no flats).

- Don't underestimate the last 100 miles. The last part of the ride was all "home territory" for me, and I never thought it would take me 11 hours to ride 110 miles, but it did!

- Things that hurt now may not hurt later. Keep riding.

- It is ALMOST all mental. Your body can keep going (granted not at its highest level) for a very long time. It's your mind that it going to talk you out of or into it.

- Homey was right. Any training ride over 200 miles is a waste! (That's not to say that my performance wouldn't have been better if I'd done the whole brevet series, but my goal was survival and I did.)

- When you think you left your chamois butter in the hotel room at mile 260 (where you got a whopping 45 minutes sleep), and you have 100 miles still to ride - keep checking around in your stuff because it may be there and you have no idea how much you need it.

- What you like to eat at mile 150 may make you throw up at mile 210.

Veronica
04-24-2006, 03:04 PM
Oh my GOD, that's all I could I think as I read this. Wow! So solo 508?

V.

greenmachine
04-24-2006, 03:12 PM
Wow! I'm impressed and inspired. I was just over at Bike Journal and logged my measly 345 miles since February of this year and you did 375 on one ride! I really enjoyed reading your report.

:) gm

Nanci
04-24-2006, 03:17 PM
Oooh goody! I am printing this and heading out to the patio with Mr. Bird and a glass of pinot gris to enjoy the tale!!

Nanci

Nanci
04-24-2006, 03:37 PM
Sarah,

I am so proud of you!! I hope my experiences helped you a little bit. I _loved_ your report! You're right, they can never be too long!! My favorite parts were "I am so mistaken that it's not funny" which I experienced on my 200k, and the part about the last four hours, where you alternate "okay" and "F@ck!" Don't say I didn't warn you!! I am glad that "it doesn't always get worse" held true for you. Man, it just brings back memories. When I was at my two-day 200 mile ride this weekend, I had this nightmare, Saturday night, about having signed up for another 600k, and I was thinking "It's too soon! What was I thinking! I am not ready for this! I don't want to do this again for another year!" My mom was mysteriously alive again in that dream.

Tell me, does the whole distance seem real to you, or is it all blended together in a series of short (seemingly long) segments, that you will never be able to join together in your mind as a whole?

Well, there's one more innocent victim out there that I know of, just getting ready to start the series...She knows who she is. She'd better be posting some great reports, the kind that you have to print out!

And hey, did you register for Furnace Creek? You will be the Goddess of
Ultramarathon Cycling, in my mind, when you complete that ride. I only wish I could be there...

Nanci

PS- I knew you could do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maillotpois
04-24-2006, 04:58 PM
Thanks guys!

V - I don't think solo 508. At least not this year. Nicole the woman I rode with who did the 508 solo ruined her knees training for it. She apparently ended up walking the last hills on the 600k. The 508 has about 30,000 feet of climbing, so it's much tougher - though you have support.

Nancy - I think I am due a pinot gris myself... Your report and emailed details helped TREMENDOUSLY. That's so funny about your dream. Did your mother tell you to do another 600? Or was she just a quiet observer? You know, I guess it is segments that I remember. You're right that it is a lot like childbirth. I have these vague recollections of them having trouble getting the epidural in, and pictures in my mind of all the blood on the sheets from the missed epi attempts when they finally moved me to the operating table. Throughout the childbirth and my hospital stay, I had these desires for a rice krispy treat from the coffee cart in the hospital lobby and no one would bring me one, even after I was done. The food images run through everything. But the 600 is a bit like that. I know a lot of it will fade and I will just have these images. Control to control is sort of how the segments are broken up.

My favorite part of your report was the image of you grabbing your crotch and, I think, swearing. When I was riding, I had things happen, like animals in the bushes and I thought "I read that in Nanci's report."

tprevost
04-24-2006, 05:20 PM
what a wonderful report! Very inspirational and quite impressive :) Thank you for all of the details and insight, you did a great job and even though I don't know you in person, I'm really proud of and for you!

Well Done!

Tracy

SadieKate
04-24-2006, 05:53 PM
Great report, MP. I love the whole family affair it turned into.

Blueberry
04-24-2006, 06:36 PM
Thanks a million for sharing! You're one amazing woman! Wow!

Carrie Anne

wabisabi
04-24-2006, 07:59 PM
Wowie, zowie! What an amazing ride!
I have driven around some of these areas and thinking about riding them in the dark is pretty daunting; Ft. Bragg is getting up by us up here. I really felt for you riding in the rain also. You really dug deep for this ride.

Running Mommy
04-24-2006, 08:02 PM
WOW!! Ok you get the bad asz of the week award! Heck, I'll give it to you for the entire MONTH, YEAR maybe!! I soo admire you and Nanci, and eveyone else who steps out of their comfy box. That is AWESOME!!
Nor Cal- sonoma county- being my hometown, I totally followed you as you described it. And there are some fierce hills in there! WOW!!!
Fabulous! Enjoy the spoils now... as in wine, chocolate, etc..:D
happy recovery!
denise

Dianyla
04-24-2006, 09:35 PM
Awesome job, MP! I love reading these ride reports.

Especially the little insanity bits. I can definitely relate just a little bit from the one double-century that I've done.

BTW, I have a name for the position that those harley riders are in with their legs all up and splayed like that... "BJ Stance". :eek:

cusepack
04-25-2006, 03:15 AM
Congratulations Miss Sarah. Fantastic report . . . I was so engrossed in your ride report - felt as though I was alongside for the ride (minus the crotch issues;) )

K

DirtDiva
04-25-2006, 03:48 AM
A great report. Thanks for sharing. :)

betagirl
04-25-2006, 03:53 AM
Great report! I too loved the "F@ck!" interjections. :D

This is great stuff for me since I'm starting my brevet series on saturday. I'm not too worried about the 200k, but the 600k seems a bit scary to me. Reading your story and Nanci's story are great motivators to try to get through the entire series.

Congratulations!

Nanci
04-25-2006, 05:06 AM
It's ok Beta, by the time you get to the 600k, you'll be ready!

Nanci

Lise
04-25-2006, 05:25 AM
These rides are amazing, and the reports are so much fun to read. I especially loved all the family being there for you at the end. And the descriptions of the peace and quiet of riding through the night. Looking forward to betagirl's reports!

BTW-as far as "bad azz" of the week, month, year....that award rotates pretty quickly through the astonishing women on this board! :D

Barb
04-25-2006, 06:46 AM
Great job! I have not riden in a week due to moving. Now I can't wait to get out there!

bikerz
04-25-2006, 07:16 AM
What an incredible story - I am completely in awe! That's a long way in a car, not to mention sitting on a bike saddle - yow! Amazing achievement!

Bad JuJu
04-25-2006, 07:40 AM
Thanks for what turns out to be a WONDERFUL STORY! And huge congrats on finishing with the rubber side down.:D

short cut sally
04-25-2006, 08:23 AM
What an accomplishment, I can't imagine being on my bike for 100 miles let alone a 600k..You should be so proud of yourself and thanks for sharing that story. shellyj

mtkitchn
04-25-2006, 08:29 AM
Thanks so much for the report! What an amazing ride! I'm going to come back and reread it later again!

bikerchick68
04-25-2006, 10:06 AM
maillotpois... amazing... yet again I sit here shaking my head in complete awe. You must be thrilled that you were able to talk yourself thru it mentally... I think what you said is so true... barring injury, accomplishing this feat becomes a very mental mind game with ones self...

Homey (and my brother and Richard from the Rebels if you know him a bunch of others) has been trying to get me to ride double centuries... I just can't imagine 16+ hours on the saddle... I worry about not being fast enough... but he assures me I would do well because I am a steady rider... I can hit a speed and maintain it for a looooong time as long as I don't try to keep up an unreasonable tempo to stick with others who are faster... he has yet to convince me! LOL... :D

your story, however... now THERE is some serious inspiration! :) who knows... maybe some day...

Nanci
04-25-2006, 10:24 AM
Just do a 300k brevet! It's only 186 miles, and you have 20 hours to finish! Leisurely!

Nanci

Geonz
04-25-2006, 12:04 PM
Oh, MY :-)

And writing it all down, too!

YOU DONE IT :) :) :)

latelatebloomer
04-25-2006, 04:24 PM
I am just totally, totally awestruck. And the next time I'm getting ready to weenie out, I'll think of you.

Bike Goddess
04-25-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks so much for your wonderful report. I'm truly amazed that you could remember all of the details. I can barely imagine what it must have been like to ride in so much rain. That takes determination AND skill. Having driven 128 I could well imagine your concerns. Yet you got through it. Funny how the toughest part was the last even tho you knew the roads like the back of your hand! I'm so glad you could be in contact with your family. There is absolutely nothing like support from your loved ones. How neat that they came to meet you at the end!

Your vivid account should be published! I'd see if Bike California would put it in one of their issues. They have stories from riders and yours would (IMHO) definitely qualify. What really kept me in the moment was your inclusion of other riders and their fate. Your description of what it was like to ride in the dark was excellent as well.

I really mean it when I say you should publish. Good journalism should be passed around. Let your words be an inspiration for other riders to go past what they dreamed they could do as well. Bravo!

Nanci
04-25-2006, 05:27 PM
I'm amazed you had the mental energy to write a report so soon! It took me forever! How's recovery going? Should be over the worst of it by tomorrow. We have to make sure the potential other brevet completers know they aren't going to die from riding 374 miles...

maillotpois
04-25-2006, 05:36 PM
Thanks Nanci and Nancy and EVERYONE else for your wonderful comments!

Recovery: My arms hurt!! My legs have felt better than after, say the Death Ride or Tam Double. The quads are just a little sore if I massage them. Overall I am shocked by how good my legs feel. But my arms hurt - especially putting shirts on and off. My face is chapped; my cough is back. My butt recovered after a day - which is astonishing.

My digestive system seems not to know what to do. I was mildly nauseated yesterday all day. Today I ate a LOT at lunch (large Quizno's sandwich!) and now am not hungry. It comes in waves and I am trying not to overeat. It's weird, though, because after a double I am ravenous for a week. But I feel low grade queasiness now.

Overall, my recovery has been good so this should not put fear into the hearts of prospective 600k-ers. I feel better and better as I catch up on sleep. I have had a full work schedule all week so can't sleep "in" (I usually get up at 5). But I have beenin bed fairly early and gotten a good 7 - 8 hours the last 2 nights. I still feel a bit of a sleep deficit, though. But heck I only got 45 minutes on Saturday.

Lise
04-25-2006, 06:53 PM
Don't forget the little lie-down on the cat pee smelling door mat! For some reason, that little bit about lying down on the doormat was the funniest part of the tale to me. :p

Interesting that it was your arms that came out most sore. Glad to hear you've been able to get in 7-8 hr sleep. IMHO that's one of the most powerful healers.

allabouteva
04-25-2006, 11:41 PM
Sarah,

Congratulations again. It's just so inspiring hearing about your 600k ride. It constantly amazes me that people (like Nanci, Veronica and you) do this, you know! So tell me how long have you been riding to get to this level? It'll take me a zillion years! My aim is a metric Century this year.:rolleyes:

Well done.

e

Nanci
04-26-2006, 01:40 AM
It doesn't take forever. I've only had a road bike eight months! Yes, I mountain biked before, but the three years prior to getting a road bike were less and less MTB and more and more running.

Nanci

maillotpois
04-26-2006, 09:36 AM
Interesting that it was your arms that came out most sore. Glad to hear you've been able to get in 7-8 hr sleep. IMHO that's one of the most powerful healers.


My bike is a fairly aggressive race-set up. Low bars, etc. So it's great for 100 - 200 miles, but after that I spent a lot of time with my hands on the tops. It's just not a great posture for such long distances, and that's why my arms suffered. I also spent a lot of time thinking about how I could take my other bike in and get it set up better for rando riding. Now that's sick!!

maillotpois
04-26-2006, 09:38 AM
Sarah,

Congratulations again. It's just so inspiring hearing about your 600k ride. It constantly amazes me that people (like Nanci, Veronica and you) do this, you know! So tell me how long have you been riding to get to this level? It'll take me a zillion years! My aim is a metric Century this year.:rolleyes:

Well done.

e

Eva - I responded over on your other thread....

I've been riding for about 5 years. Like Nanci, I started on a MTB, but super casually. In 2001, I got a road bike and did 3 centuries that year, including a road race of 115 miles in under 6 hours. It was like something clicked and I found out what I was good at after years of not being athletic at all.

SadieKate
04-26-2006, 09:40 AM
I also spent a lot of time thinking about how I could take my other bike in and get it set up better for rando riding. Now that's sick!!No, it's not. You should see the vastly different positions I have for my road bikes.

maillotpois
04-26-2006, 09:41 AM
No, it's not. You should see the vastly different positions I have for my road bikes.

But the point is after 280 miles I was already thinking about next time...

SadieKate
04-26-2006, 09:43 AM
Remember that thing you said in the other post about stupid? I didn't say it. :p

Susan Otcenas
05-14-2010, 08:12 AM
MP - With my own 600K looming in one week, I wanted to publicly thank you again for writing such a detailed report! It's a huge help. I'm especially taking to heart the part about being surprised how long the last 110 miles took you after your break. I have a hotel room at 360K. I've been allotting myself the last 15 hours to do the last 240 K(148 miles). That means averaging 10 miles per hour, which I keep thinking should be a piece of cake, especially since, like you, I'm really familiar with the last 75 miles or so - home turf. But now your story has me wondering if I should give myself a few more hours....

sundial
05-14-2010, 09:40 AM
After talking to some of the people on the ride, it became clear that I happened to choose the most difficult 600k in Northern California to test myself out.

Sarah, you simply amaze me. :) :)

kenyonchris
05-14-2010, 10:36 AM
OMG!!! YOU ROCK! After riding and training in Texas, I was reduced to a panting, barely moving baby on the hills in California when we were there at the beginning of the month...600k of them is AMAZING! GO GIRL!

Catrin
05-14-2010, 02:11 PM
You ROCK, thank you for sharing your amazing tale! I've been interested in brevets since first learning about them, but this year my goal is a metric century.

I look forward to hearing tales from everyone else tackling amazing rides this year as well.

andtckrtoo
05-14-2010, 02:37 PM
Sarah - you are simply amazing. Incredible tale! Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed every word, seriously! I have done some endurance events - nothing like your 600k at all, but some, and two lines really stood out for me:

- Things that hurt now may not hurt later. Keep riding.

- It is ALMOST all mental. Your body can keep going (granted not at its highest level) for a very long time. It's your mind that it going to talk you out of or into it.

I TOTALLY agree!! I think the only caveat I would add is that we can do so much more than we think we can - and that goes for anyone - not just us cyclists. I learned this the hard way when I first start cycling. I'd do out and back trips. One day I ended up going out a lot further than I thought I would and had to get back. Well, the only way to get back was to ride it. I did. And learned an invaluable lesson.

Susan Otcenas
05-14-2010, 02:51 PM
- It is ALMOST all mental. Your body can keep going (granted not at its highest level) for a very long time. It's your mind that it going to talk you out of or into it.

I TOTALLY agree!! I think the only caveat I would add is that we can do so much more than we think we can.


This reminds me - has anyone heard the radiolabs podcast about limits? They talk about the limits of the human body & mind. Most of the broadcast is spent on RAAM and Ironman Kona. It's a fantastic listen!

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2010/04/16

maillotpois
05-14-2010, 03:36 PM
Susan - glad you were able to find the report. ;) I would suggest as much cushion as possible for the last 100 miles. it really was amazing to me how hard it was given how easy a 100 mile route it would have been in isolation.

this report brings back some memories. I think I was really thinking I would do more long brevets, but I have not done another 600k since I wrote it, though I have done a 400 k and a double century that was almost harder than the 600k (DMD). one day I will do another 600 and perhaps a 1200.

good luck Susan!! i will look forward to reading your report. :)

Tri Girl
05-14-2010, 05:18 PM
and perhaps a 1200.


THERE'S A 1200K????? Holy cow!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
I think a 600 is super amazing. I can't imagine a 1200.

Is that the longest one?

WOW! I mean WOW!!!!

crazycanuck
05-14-2010, 05:25 PM
Yup..it's all mental..Like mtn biking enduros..all in the head..

Isn't PBP "THE" audax event..1200km in 90hrs...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris%E2%80%93Brest%E2%80%93Paris

Bike Chick
05-15-2010, 03:48 AM
That's crazy! You're amazing maillotpois and Susan. Thanks for sharing.

jobob
05-15-2010, 04:10 AM
Yep CC, PBP is the big daddy 1200K. It's held every 4 years, the next one is next year 2011. Rando-types in my area are already making plans for it. During the last one it rained like stink almost the entire time, it was super-challenging for the participants.

There are also plenty of 1200K's in the US and elsewhere (http://www.rusa.org/1200kms.html). Used to be, on a PBP year, no other 1200Ks would be run, but owing to the popularity of randonneuring they're actually going to limit the number of participants for PBP next year, and allow other 1200Ks to go on in 2011.

On the west coast of the US, there's the Gold Rush Randonne in Northern CA, and the Cascade 1200 in Washington State. I think these are run every other year, on alternating years. The Cascade is this summer; Lee and I volunteered at an overnight control the last time it was held 2 years ago, and had a blast.

More info on the RUSA (http://www.rusa.org/) website.

jobob
05-15-2010, 04:32 AM
- Things that hurt now may not hurt later. Keep riding.

- It is ALMOST all mental. Your body can keep going (granted not at its highest level) for a very long time. It's your mind that it going to talk you out of or into it.

I need to print this on my arm for my big training ride today. Over a route mapped out by coach maillotpois, no less. :cool:

Veronica
05-15-2010, 04:56 AM
Where is today's ride?

Veronica

sundial
05-15-2010, 05:00 AM
My digestive system seems not to know what to do. I was mildly nauseated yesterday all day.

Sarah, how do you feel today?

Ginger ale does wonders for tummy upsets. :) Last night as I was working on the bike I got to thinking that packing some crystalized ginger might not be a bad idea for those loooooong rides.

redrhodie
05-15-2010, 05:10 AM
Wow. I read that report last night, and couldn't fall asleep thinking about it. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I don't have the kind of relationship with my body that I can get it to do anything even a little painful. Lucky for me, riding is never painful at the distances I ride :o. I think we all have our strengths, but overcoming the voice in my head that tells me "this sucks" is not mine. Maybe I wasn't as much like that when I was younger, but now, I definitely like things cushy.

But, I'm really curious. What makes you want to do this? Is it just the feeling of accomplishment at the end? I would need some huge reward a part of the goal, to have a chance of completing anything even a quarter as hard. Did you do that (give yourself something amazing)?

Veronica
05-15-2010, 05:13 AM
Sarah, how do you feel today?

Ginger ale does wonders for tummy upsets. :) Last night as I was working on the bike I got to thinking that packing some crystalized ginger might not be a bad idea for those loooooong rides.

I bet she feels fine today since she did the 600K in 2006. :p I hope she feels fine since she's leading Jobob on a killer ride today.

Veronica

maillotpois
05-15-2010, 07:34 PM
Where is today's ride?

Veronica

portola valley - big basin/santa cruz mtns - windy hwy 1 - la honda. 112 miles 10 - 11,000 feet of climb including 2 of the longest sustained steep bay area climbs (redwood gulch and jamison creek) and jobob kicked a$$. :)

Veronica
05-16-2010, 05:29 AM
portola valley - big basin/santa cruz mtns - windy hwy 1 - la honda. 112 miles 10 - 11,000 feet of climb including 2 of the longest sustained steep bay area climbs (redwood gulch and jamison creek) and jobob kicked a$$. :)

Excellent!!!!

Veronica

maillotpois
05-16-2010, 07:47 AM
But, I'm really curious. What makes you want to do this? Is it just the feeling of accomplishment at the end? I would need some huge reward a part of the goal, to have a chance of completing anything even a quarter as hard. Did you do that (give yourself something amazing)?

You guys are all so great - thanks for the comments. As V pointed out, I did that ride in 2006, and Susan O bumped the thread because she has her own 600k going on - right now probably. (We eagerly await the report!!)

But to get to your question, redrhodie - I really just love long distance cycling and the type of people who do it. I did my first Death Ride in 2002 and my first double century in 2005 and was pretty well hooked. That's not to say that I do it all the time. I've done 9 doubles and several brevets over the 200 mile distance, but I haven't done a double since 2008, because I simply don't have the time. For the last several years, I have been putting most of my cycling time and energy into the Death Ride training program I run for TNT (which melissam and Dachsund did last year and in which jobob is kicking butt this year). And since I have a 14 year old daughter and a new business, I have to really work to balance it all and not let cycling just take over.

But that's the great thing about this sport, and ultra distance in particular. Once Em is off to college, I can start doing those long rides and not feel bad for being away all day. There was a guy on some of my doubles who was in his 80's and most of the double century crowd is in their 50's. This is a sport we can do for a LONG time.

I'm also pretty type A and ambitious overall. :rolleyes:

sundial
05-16-2010, 07:59 AM
I bet she feels fine today since she did the 600K in 2006. :p

Oops! :o :o

Susan Otcenas
05-17-2010, 09:17 AM
Susan O bumped the thread because she has her own 600k going on - right now probably. (We eagerly await the report!!)



No, it's this upcoming weekend. T minus 5 days and counting!

jobob
05-17-2010, 09:47 AM
I'm also pretty type A and ambitious overall. :rolleyes:

Gee, who knew. :cool:

maillotpois
05-09-2014, 07:56 PM
I'm doing this ride again. Tomorrow (through Sunday). For the first time in 8 years.

I haven't done a 600k since 2011. I'm woefully underprepared, have had a LOT of personal issues this year (no one died or is dying, but it's been a disruptive spring to say the least). But I'm gonna have a Stone IPA, read this report again and go to bed (and get up at 3:30).

Crankin
05-10-2014, 02:40 AM
Good luck.
I like your attitude. While I don't do 600k rides, what you said pretty much sums up how I feel before any hard effort!

Veronica
05-10-2014, 03:52 AM
Here's hoping for great weather and a great ride!

Veronica

maillotpois
05-11-2014, 08:24 AM
Well, that was a little dumb. A can-do attitude and willingness to suffer are one thing, but doing damage to a recently surgically repaired body part (I had hip surgery last year and couldn't ride for a good 4 months before the surgery because of the pain) is another. I made it 120 miles in and realized that the persistent hip pain I had been having for the last 40 miles was something I needed to listen to. There's "good" pain and then there's "bad" pain and I know the difference.

So I persuaded my riding companion to proceed without me, turned around and went back to the motel we'd all planned on staying at for a couple of hours.

Headwinds were crazy, and I'm sure that struggling to hold 10 mph in a paceline for 70 miles was more exertion than the hip needed. I just don't have enough solid base training in that hip right now, given the last few months of really inconsistent training. I know I can get back there, and I'm well on my way.

Next year. (Or maybe this fall, who knows?)

Veronica
05-11-2014, 08:33 AM
That was wise. You only get one body after all.

Veronica

Susan Otcenas
05-12-2014, 09:06 AM
[QUOTE=maillotpois;693163 There's "good" pain and then there's "bad" pain and I know the difference.

[/QUOTE]

Good for you for making the hard, but smart choice. It's NEVER easy to make the decision to DNF but listening to your body so that you can ride again another day is always the best thing to do. I"m sorry this weekend didn't work out for you, but I know you will be back out there soon!

Healing wishes,
Susan

maillotpois
05-13-2014, 06:41 AM
Thanks all. Depending on how my month goes, I'm contemplating doing a 600 in mid June. We'll see. Easier course and if I can get some solid riding in (heck I did a 140 this weekend after all - good training!) it may work. I know my hip *can* do a 600 (it didn't hurt at all during the 400), but I just need to be smarter about things than I used to be. Like the first time I did this ride.