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Bike Goddess
04-07-2006, 10:15 AM
Anyone planning to do this ride? Maybe we'll have sunshine for a change!
bikergal
04-07-2006, 10:32 AM
My husband and I are doing Primavera. I've got to say that the Wall is kinda freaking me out! We are going to try to do a trial wall ride next weekend.
Shelley
aka_kim
04-07-2006, 12:36 PM
I'm planning to do the 100k.
jobob
04-07-2006, 01:07 PM
I've got to say that the Wall is kinda freaking me out!
Gear way down, breathe steady, and take your time. The good news is, it's not a very long hill. It's finite. Keep telling yourself that. :)
Bike Goddess
04-07-2006, 01:58 PM
Thanks for the words of encouragement JoBob! Not ever having cycled in that area I too was wondering what all the fuss was!
Maybe we should find a place to meet afterwards????? I'm planning to do the century.
Veronica
04-07-2006, 06:24 PM
The Calaveras Wall really isn't that bad. And it's fairly short.
V.
snapdragen
04-07-2006, 07:32 PM
The Calaveras Wall really isn't that bad. And it's fairly short.
V.
Easy for you to say Amazon girl.....:D
Veronica
04-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the compliment. :D Last time I did it was after Hamilton and Sierra Road. Anything seems easy after those two. I did find myself wondering why they call it a wall.
V.
jobob
04-07-2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah V, no offense, but your definition of 'easy' is on a slightly different order of magnitude than for many of the rest of us :rolleyes: :D
Veronica
04-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Yeah V, no offense, but your definition of 'easy' is on a slightly different order of magnitude than for many of the rest of us :rolleyes: :D
Nope, not offended at all. :D I know I'm insane.
But Calaveras really isn't that bad and you get that wonderful rolling section afterward.
V.
aka_kim
04-08-2006, 09:49 AM
I've never found the Calaveras climb difficult when riding Primavera, but when I rode it the week of the TOC while spectating at Sierra Rd. I actually got off my bike and walked mid-climb. Oh the shame! :o:o I've only stopped twice on road climbs in 10 years. My excuse, and I'm sticking to it, was that I wasn't feeling well and was over-heated.
"Amazon Girl" - I like that better than V's other monikers. But too bad the initials are taken.
cindysue
04-08-2006, 02:55 PM
"Amazon Girl" - I like that better than V's other monikers. But too bad the initials are taken.
I like "double diva"
Diva - Etymology: Italian, literally, goddess, from Latin, feminine of divus divine, god --
aka_kim
04-08-2006, 04:23 PM
I like "double diva"
Diva - Etymology: Italian, literally, goddess, from Latin, feminine of divus divine, god --But we don't want her getting a big head :D.
(Is she gone, can we talk about her behind her back all week? :p)
Bike Goddess
04-21-2006, 09:09 AM
Looking good for Sunday weatherwise. So far it looks like we have 3 TE gals doing the metric and 1 (me) doing the century. Anyone else coming? Tonight at 11:59PM is the LAST time you can register. NO day of registration for this ride!
Metric
Kim
Biker Gal
Century
Nancy
Would love some company!
snapdragen
04-21-2006, 12:09 PM
Considered it, I would have been comic relief. Instead I'm going to a memorial celebration for a co worker.:(
Adventure Girl
04-21-2006, 12:14 PM
Metric
Kim
Biker Gal
Adventure Girl
Is that me? Sorry. I have other riding plans. I have not even been involved in this discussion. I don't know how I got on this list.:confused:
Bike Goddess
04-21-2006, 01:00 PM
No Adventure Girl there anymore! Must have gotten AG and BG mixed up! Oh well, you can ride in spirit with us!:) :) :)
Snap- you'll be missed, humor and all! But memorials are important too!
Bike Goddess
04-24-2006, 10:23 AM
The century ride was quite nice if you eliminate all the traffic we had to deal with coming, in the middle, and going back!
Veronica was right! The Calveras wall wasn't that difficult especially since it came in the first 15 miles of the ride. As we rode past Sierra Rd (sign said it was closed 5.5 miles ahead)I thought of the Tour and how lucky they were to have done it before the road caved in.
The tour around the Calveras reservoir was quite beautiful as it is very green right now. Since it was cloudy, the colors were somewhat muted. No wildflowers yet, but soon I would imagine.
The 2nd big climb over the Altamount Pass was pretty interesting. When we started at the bottom, one of our riders mentioned that we would be going over the freeway above (it looked pretty high!)and then on over the old pass. After a long not so steep hill we made it over the freeway and then eventually over the pass (that was a bit steeper). It was interesting to hear the windmills cranking away in the wind. Of course we knew that active windmills meant strong westerly winds going back to the start and indeed that's what happened!
Au contraire the hardest hill (at 90 miles) was getting out of Palomares Canyon. (I think my top speed towards the top was 4.2MPH and I managed to pass a few other riders who were also suffering!) To reach the canyon we had to go due west over the Dublin grade (parallel to HWY 580). The headwind was pretty strong so it took a bit of work to get over that grade. Fortunately we had a reststop just before going through Palomares. A guitar player serenaded us as we stocked up for our final climb of the day.
I recommend this ride. The food was great, there weren't thousands of riders so we never really saw a lot of pacelines and such, and the volunteers were most helpful. The only downside regarding the route was at times it was difficult to follow. Fortunately, I was with my club guys. 2 of them had done the ride before so they were our guides when a route question came up.
I managed to make a wrong turn at the end of the ride which resulted in a 5 mile detour, but that was my fault not the ride directions!
So Kim and Biker Gal - how did you do? I looked for you, but we started late (around 7:15). Maybe you saw us! We were best identified as the ones with the argyle socks (our latest trademark)!
bikergal
04-24-2006, 11:47 AM
DH and had both been sick towards the end of last week and I was feeling pretty run down during the entire ride. We live about a mile or two from the wall and I was so tempted to just ride home and forget the whole thing but I talked myself out of it. DH made it up the wall and then came down to find me and went up again!:eek: I'm not a great climber yet so I made it up part of the way and then had to walk the rest. Riding along the resevoir was beautiful. Had a near collision on the way down when the two cyclist in front of me decided to slam on their brakes without warning while we were going around 23mph.
When we got to the second rest stop I was really beat. We bailed and took the 70K route which was only 10miles to the end. Riding along 84 was slightly scary with all the big SUV's who think they own the road but we made it!
aka_kim
04-24-2006, 12:46 PM
I did the 100k route, and started around 7:15 also. I did see a few of the high argyle socks, but didn't associate them with the Benicia club. :o
Although I personally had a good ride, I saw the worst thing I ever want to see while riding. A rider went down on the Palomares downhill, and I was among some of the first cyclists to find him. He was sprawled ackwardly across the road, face down, unconscious and bleeding from the head. Someone was trying to staunch the bleeding, and someone else had gotten a cell signal to call 911. The rest of us stood around feeling impotent and horror stricken, as more cyclists came to a stop as they rounded the corner to the accident sight.
Suddenly the guy trying to stop the bleeding frantically rolled the man over and began administering CPR. Two other cyclists with some emergency medical training began helping. They'd get a pulse, stop the CPR, and within a minute need to resume. Someone had a jacket to help keep the man, whose name was Richard, warm. Passing motorists looked at the site with odd looks, like wtf are those stupid cyclists doing blocking the road. Meanwhile, the good samaritans knelt in Richard's blood, alternately calling to him and doing CPR.
I finally left just before the paramedics arrived. I could do nothing to help, and suddenly had this overwhelming fear that the man would not survive. I was alternating between near sobbing and wanting to vomit.
I haven't heard anything about what happened, whether Richard lived or not.
bikergal
04-24-2006, 02:48 PM
Wow Kim, that must have been so scary. Can you email the organizers and ask them if he's ok?
Bike Goddess
04-24-2006, 03:56 PM
Oh my. I overheard that something had happened on Palomares after we got back but didn't know for sure. Hopefully we can find out more and let you all know.
E2theD
04-24-2006, 04:35 PM
I'm part of the velogirls list and a few members knew the guy you are talking about. A few messages circulated today. His name was Richard Fitzpatrick and he passed away yesterday at Eden Hospital.
So very sad. Keep his family in your prayers.
Erin
Veronica
04-24-2006, 04:50 PM
Oh that is so sad. My heart goes out to everyone involved.
Veronica
miffy'sFuji
04-25-2006, 08:12 AM
Here is a news story about the accident:
http://www.chicoer.com/news/bayarea/ci_3749288
bikerz
04-25-2006, 08:21 AM
Oh that is so very sad - and frightening. I really feel for his family and friends, as well as the good samaritans.
aka_kim
04-25-2006, 08:29 AM
Thanks for the link, I've been trying to find some news.
I don't think he collided with anyone, though, as the story says. No one else was down, and I think if there had been a collision the other cyclist would at least have hung around. He did go down, or at least came to a stop, at a curve - but the downhill wasn't that steep and the curve wasn't that tight, and there didn't seem to be any debris in the road. I didn't notice any type of catastrophic bike/tire failure. Maybe he was just going too fast? Or had a heart attack or stroke, or something, while still on the bike?
Very scary, and unnerving. People often say how they'd rather die doing something they love than slowly waste away in a home - I'm one who says that too - but you know, there's nothing good about dying in the f*ing road.
SadieKate
04-25-2006, 08:40 AM
Kim, I couldn't agree with you more on every point. I hope witnessing the aftermath is not causing you problems. Are you OK?
aka_kim
04-25-2006, 08:48 AM
Umm, yeah. Just a little post-traumatic stress disorder. We all know the risks of the sport.
SadieKate
04-25-2006, 08:58 AM
Knowing and witnessing are two different things. Think postive OK?
I've got one last weekend for some hills. I'm thinking a metric distance. You want to plan something?
miffy'sFuji
04-25-2006, 09:04 AM
It's a really disturbing matter. I was pretty shocked to hear what AKA Kim witnessed. I guess we get caught up in day to day life and events and forget how dangerous sports or really any endeavor can be. I mentioned this to my coworker and she said the same thing about how at least Richard was doing what he loved. Regardless, life is really fragile.
aka_kim
04-25-2006, 09:13 AM
I've got one last weekend for some hills. I'm thinking a metric distance. You want to plan something?Sunday is good, although not too early - I may be working til the wee hours to see those DMD riders in.
cindysue
04-25-2006, 09:41 PM
gulp :(
heartbreaking!
Trek420
05-02-2006, 05:07 AM
very sad. I also saw this on the Velogirls board.
There will be a service for Rich Fitzpatrick, on Saturday, April 29th,
at 11:00 AM at Chapel of the Chimes in Hayward. The address is 32992
Mission Blvd. Flowers are OK. The service is open to anyone.
Let's all be super careful out there ladies.
jobob
05-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Word is he had a heart attack, which caused his crash.
So let's be careful not to have a heart attack out there.
Veronica
05-02-2006, 05:53 AM
Word is he had a heart attack, which caused his crash.
So let's be careful not to have a heart attack out there.
It always freaks me out when I hear that someone had a heart attack while riding. All this riding is suppose to make my heart healthy so that doesn't happen. :(
OTOH part of me thinks that having a heart attack while doing something I love wouldn't be a bad way to die, but what about all the poor folks who happen upon the scene? I haven't settled on a good death yet so I don't think I'll have one. Yeah 'cause I get to make that call.
V.
aka_kim
05-02-2006, 08:04 AM
Word is he had a heart attack, which caused his crash.That's strangely comforting. I just didn't see how he could go down so hard on a relatively gentle downhill and curve. He had just done the big Palomares climb, though - he crashed several miles down the hill. I always feel like I'm about to have a heart attack on that climb.
I'm still re-thinking the whole "I want to die on my bike" (if I have to die at all) thing. Any death by bike is going to be bloody and ugly, and yes, quite traumatic for anyone who witnesses it.
slinkedog
05-02-2006, 11:08 AM
I feel a level of comfort from this report, as well. I'm like you guys... I worry not so much about the method of death, but the effect on those left behind. I feel so bad for his family.
Bike Goddess
05-03-2006, 09:28 AM
JoBob- Thanks for the update. We had talked about it last night at my club meeting and were wondering what had happened.
Anyone remember the guy who wrote a book about running? (I think his name was Fixx). He died of a heart attack while out running one day too. iIthink they discovered he had some kind of defect in his heart, but I don't remember a lot.
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