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Brandi
03-14-2006, 12:40 PM
So we are going on this tour right? It is the first week of sept in colorado to Utah. So the weather could be dodgy. I have already had to buy a bunch of gear including a new bike. And my dh has had to buy new stuff too. I was looking at the prices for gloves. I need some waterproof ones. Well they are pricey. And i don't know how often I am going to use these if at all. So here is my thought. I have fleece full fingered riding gloves. what if I coverded them with disposable gloves. Not the dishwashing kind but the surgical kind? We have a huge box of them. Also any suggestions on water proof pants that won't leave me broke. I got a rain coat made for biking so I am good there.

bcipam
03-14-2006, 12:44 PM
Brandi where are you riding? Utah tends to be a very dry state. I've done alot of rides through Utah and except for one day (in the mountains) I have not had rain. My suggestion is to wear layers and not worry about water proofing. f it's raining that hard, seek shelter. I would get a rain poncho but I wouldn't worry about water proof gloves especially if they won't be used.

maillotpois
03-14-2006, 12:52 PM
I have friends who wear those disposable gloves UNDER regular short cycling gloves for doubles and longer rides where the start is REALLY cold, and then it warms up. I did that for the Death Ride and it was terrible! My hands were soaking in a pool of sweat by the time I took those off (at the FIRST pee stop I made on the first part of Monitor!) I took the gloves off and about 2 T of sweat poured out of them! :D I never knew my hands sweat so much.

I ride in the rain a lot, and don't use waterproof gloves. Just use long fingered gloves and you should be fine. You may get wet, but the key is to stay warm.

Brandi
03-14-2006, 01:04 PM
Moab Utah is where we are riding. I guess the potential for bad weather could happen. But I am still thinking it wouldn't hurt to bring the rubber gloves just to have in case. I am bringing one pair long finger fleece and two pairs short fingered. So Is is not like I can't change into dryer golves if i have too. And the huts have pot bellied stoves to dry our stuff out if we need too. And it is pretty dry up there too so things will dry fast.

SadieKate
03-14-2006, 01:06 PM
Brandi is going to be at very high altitude in Utah where afternoon thunderstorms could be a daily occurrence. She's going to be mountain biking where shelter is not available except for the huts at night.

You'll probably need rain gear more for outbursts than steady non-stop stuff, but it could happen.

I've never taken waterproof gloves but I do be sure to have long fingered-warm gloves. Surgical gloves would be easy to carry in your seat bag and just use for a short while.

A waterproof breathable jacket is probably more important than rain pants. You do have tights?

Veronica
03-14-2006, 01:06 PM
I usually have a couple different pairs of gloves on a cold ride. My hands sweat I guess and the gloves get damp. Or maybe it's from my constantly running nose.

You might be able to get some deals at REI, LL Bean or Lands End on winter fleece gloves.

V.

SadieKate
03-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Moab Utah is where we are riding.

http://www.sanjuanhuts.com/

Brandi, aren't you riding the San Juan Huts from Telluride to Moab? You will spend very little time at the lower and hotter climate of Moab. Gateway is the only other low point. The rest of the trip is high and in the mountains. Think closer to Telluride weather.

I think your glove plan is fine.

CyclaSutra
03-14-2006, 01:19 PM
Brandi,

I _just_ got these rain pants in the mail yesterday... $17.95

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.aspx?baseno=46532



and I haven't field tested them yet, but they look and fit great, nice velcro tabs around the ankles to twist them out of the way of your chain.

Boy, you sure are shopping and prepping early! I agree, I've never had to have waterproof gloves. I've used a garbage bag around my sock and shoved my sock in my boot when hiking through sloppy snow, but you WILL sweat if you try some sort of vapor barrier like a rubber glove.

Grog
03-14-2006, 01:27 PM
I ride in rainy conditions quite a bit and don't have waterproof gloves. I usually ride with a pair of long-fingered gloves made of neoprene and have a pair of warmer cross-country skiing gloves in my back pocket. If/when one pair gets thoroughly wet, I switch to the other.

I would argue against the surgical gloves because of the sweat issue that others have pointed out. Getting wet from the inside is no better than getting wet from the outside...

Cross-country gloves can be much cheaper than cycling gloves for the same type of quality/function. I know they're not easy to find in California, but looking online should make it easier...

This is in September, right??

Good luck!

Brandi
03-14-2006, 01:56 PM
yes it is in the first week of sept. I guess the weather in telluride can be anything though. And it is the san juan hut ride. Durango to moab. See I was thinking I will be wearing the fleece lined gloves which should keep my hands warm and the rubber gloves over as long as my hands are warm it shouldn't matter if they are wet too right?. You know I have a pair of fingered wool gloves too. they really saved me during a very cold Canadian sand sculpture contest. My hands were soaked but warm. Maybe I will just bring those and my fleece ones.

kjay
03-14-2006, 05:00 PM
I just checked out this sanjuanhuts tour, and it looks so fascinating and fun. I learn so much here. Thanks very much!

Grog
03-14-2006, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE=Brandi]See I was thinking I will be wearing the fleece lined gloves which should keep my hands warm and the rubber gloves over as long as my hands are warm it shouldn't matter if they are wet too right?. [QUOTE]

Yes and no. It depends on the weather outside. Wet + cold (less than 10C) + wind = cold hands. Can be quite unpleasant, and eventually dangerous (hypothermia). Hence the change.

Frankly you will probably be fine. You may want to bring a third pair in case your gloves don't dry overnight. Think windbreaker more than waterproof.

G'luck! And stay warm & toasty.

fixedgeargirl
03-14-2006, 06:30 PM
Forgive me for being the nervous Nellie here :p .

Brandi, you could easily get SNOWED on. What happens if you are relying on that one pair of surgical gloves and they get torn? Definitely think worst case scenario, or, at least, really really bad case scenario. At 9000 feet I have had to stop one mile from town and put on two extra layers while hunkering under a tree to avoid going hypothermic during a thunderstorm. This was in August, and not all that unusual.

Wool is good. Very, very good. Fleece is good. If you can find a pair of waterproof overgloves (to fit over your fleecies) they would be grand. Of course, if you bring them, you won't need them :p :D ! Have you looked on ebay? Most online retailers are closing out winter stuff now. Don't just jump on the first thing you see, you have a while.

A mylar space blanket is great. They fold down smaller than a travel pack of kleenex. They're waterproof and heat reflective. Getting deep under a coniferous tree can keep you pretty dry, too.

You are in for a grand adventure!!!

Brandi
03-17-2006, 08:32 AM
ok i am going to bring my summer gloves, my long fingered fleece one's and a pair of wool figerless that have a mitten flap that can go over the fingerless part. I will also carry a pair of surgical just in case. and some of those little hand warming packs. that should take care of me. I hope. There is always duck tape!

CorsairMac
03-17-2006, 11:04 AM
I bought the rain pants from REI:
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47916379&parent_category_rn=4500841&vcat=REI_SEARCH

I haven't worn them in the rain yet - I live in the desert but I do wear them as an extra layer when it's really cold and love them. I don't wear them without anything underneath (shorts/leg warmers) coz they tend to get a tad "sticky".

fixedgeargirl
03-17-2006, 12:01 PM
Don't forget the duct tape :D ! To avoid having to lug an entire roll, wrap a few feet around a short length of dowel or something similar. Have everyone in your party do this and you'll have plenty to go around!

Dianyla
03-17-2006, 02:39 PM
Don't forget the duct tape :D ! To avoid having to lug an entire roll, wrap a few feet around a short length of dowel or something similar. Have everyone in your party do this and you'll have plenty to go around!
Hmmm, when hiking I usually wrap a bit of ducttape around one of my trekking poles to carry it conveniently. I suppose one could do the same around the seatpost or some other (nonpainted) area of the bike?