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ny biker
05-05-2014, 09:51 AM
I have a Bontrager Affinity RXL on my road bike. As near as I can estimate, I've ridden just over 3000 miles with it. And I think it's worn out and needs to be replaced already.

Prior to getting the RXL, I had tried the R and RL versions of the Affinity, which are the same shape but have more padding. I generally liked the R and RL except for too much padding in the nose, which is why I switched to the RXL. In addition to being the firmest of the bunch, the RXL also has carbon rails. For the first year or so riding with it, I had no problems.

Last year I started to have some chafing problems, but only on the right side. I think that was largely caused by a defective chamois in the shorts I usually wore for long-distance rides, as the fabric was loose in the irritated area. I have recently replaced the shorts (many thanks to TE for replacing them under warranty!).

I'm still having the chafing problem, however, and now it's happening with shorts that used to be perfectly comfortable. I'm also seeing a visible change in the saddle -- there's a line running across it, like a slight indentation. The hard plastic shell of the saddle is not cracked or damaged, so I think I'm seeing a breakdown in the padding, like there are two separate pieces of foam that used to touch but now have a slight gap between them. One final thing -- though the saddle is level, it feels a bit like it's tilted up when I'm sitting on it.

I'm going to replace the saddle with another RXL in the same size. Bontrager has a 30-day guarantee, so I can easily return the new saddle if it doesn't solve the chafing problem.

It just seems to me that 3000 miles is not a very long life for a saddle. I know someone mentioned in another recent thread that they replaced their Specialized saddle (a Ruby, I think) every 4000 miles or so.

This makes me curious -- when you find a saddle that you like, how long are you able to ride it before it wears out and needs to be replaced?

emily_in_nc
05-05-2014, 12:31 PM
Not sure I can recall, but definitely more than 3K miles. I bought my 2006 Trek used and have ridden > 2100 miles on the stock Bontrager Select saddle just this year alone. Did not track my miles last year, but who knows how many miles the previous owner had put on it. It's still super comfy and in good shape. I did replace the Terry Butterfly on my Bike Friday with a Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flo at some point, but that was just to move the B-fly to another bike (that I eventually sold). Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had to replace a saddle for wear reasons. Usually I've sold the bike before the saddle wore out!

My DH put > 6000 miles on his Terry Fly saddle on his Trek in 2011 and has over 4000 on it this year. I have no idea how many thousands of miles he put on it before 2011. It still appears to be in decent shape.

I will be interested to hear what others say, but to me, that sounds low.

Edited to add that the 2100 miles were not all on my Trek...d'oh...a bunch were on my Jamis MTB. :rolleyes: So maybe more like 1100-1200 on the Trek this year, and < 1000 least year.

ny biker
05-05-2014, 02:35 PM
I suppose total hours in the saddle is a better measure than total miles for this. For example at my pace, a 60-mile ride lasts 5 hours or more. Someone who rides faster would be sitting in the saddle for only 3-4 hours over that same distance.

But my brain is too full right now to try to estimate the number of hours I spent on all those rides, especially since my weekly hill rides are at a much slower pace. I think I might be able to get the numbers from Garmin Connect. I will check.

azfiddle
05-05-2014, 02:47 PM
I bought a slightly used Specialized Jett from a TE member in 2010. I replaced it this winter, with somewhere between 15,000 and 20,00 miles on it....The leather was starting to tear.

Owlie
05-05-2014, 09:55 PM
Cut-out saddles don't last as long as "solid" saddles, but 3000 miles seems low. My roadie's Jett is about at that point and is perfectly fine...(and I'm slow!)

Catrin
05-06-2014, 05:51 AM
My first SI LDY Gel Flow lasted less than 2K miles - my fitter tells me that there is something about my positioning that causes a different wear pattern than he normally sees in cutout saddles. Both of my saddles (same brand) showed the same wear pattern so it seemed apparent that it wasn't a factory problem.

emily_in_nc
05-06-2014, 06:34 PM
I suppose total hours in the saddle is a better measure than total miles for this. For example at my pace, a 60-mile ride lasts 5 hours or more. Someone who rides faster would be sitting in the saddle for only 3-4 hours over that same distance.

I'm slow too...typically average 13-14 mph. DH is faster when he rides alone, but not always -- when he rides with me, he rides my pace...so the numbers I gave you were with that kind of time in the saddle.

Crankin
05-07-2014, 02:30 AM
I wear saddles out quickly (around 2 years) and we always have an extra Terry Falcon X around because it happens suddenly. I am "crooked," seriously, and I wear out the left side in a noticeable way. I ride between 2,000 and 3,300 miles a year. It's just the way it is. I also go through helmets like crazy. The parts (padding) inside fall off, get weird from the copious amount of sweat I produce. I now have 2 helmets that I switch between, but even the newest one I have is already messed up looking.

Catrin
05-07-2014, 03:55 AM
TIS rather than mileage makes sense, I hadn't thought about it that way. My average speed is around 12mph, so it takes me longer than many to go the same distance. Perhaps that 2k wasn't as short as I realized...

ny biker
05-07-2014, 08:58 AM
I suppose weight has an effect in addition to total ride time. I'm a good 35 lbs heavier than Crankin and Emily.

I bought the new saddle and had it put on the bike last night. The foam in the old one definitely feels less firm than the new one. If the weather people are right and our lunch-time rain storm really does move out of here in the next couple of hours, I should be able to do a short ride on it tonight. That's not enough to see if the chafing is solved, but I can at least see if the feeling of the saddle being tilted is gone.

OakLeaf
05-07-2014, 09:17 AM
Rider weight, rider boniness, how aggressively you ride, how bumpy the roads are, whether you do a lot of climbing which takes weight out of the saddle even if you climb seated, particulars of how you fit on the saddle, particulars of how the saddle is constructed ... I think it's as individual as how long running shoes last. There's a range that people quote as a general rule, but in the case of shoes it's a very large range, and I'd expect it's the same thing with saddles.

Just like shoes, there's generally visible compression in the saddle a good while before I notice the ride starting to degrade. It sounds like the compression you're seeing is fairly advanced, so I'm sure you're right about the saddle being worn out.

ny biker
05-08-2014, 11:35 AM
Holy cow, what a difference. The new RXL is so much firmer than the old one had become, I'm surprised my sit bones aren't sore from last night's ride. It was certainly the first time in a while that I could feel them supporting me on the saddle. If I hadn't bought both saddles myself, I wouldn't believe they were the same make and model.