General TE tips

[Trek420]

I thought I'd post this tip here due to the recent rash of spam on board. It occured to me that between new TE'ers and it's never been explained how to delete spam (I had to learn on the streets, just like I've learned everything else I know) maybe there's only a few of us who knew what to do.

Also realised that once the admin gets back from his ride and deletes said spam, my instructions will dissapear.

Hence this new thread.

So, when you see spam, first calm down take a deep breath, have some cytomax.

Now on each post, under the userid of the poster do you see a little white triangle? Click there and it alerts the admin to the spam and or hostile posting, flames, spelling errors etc.

I'm just kidding about the spelling errors, don't alert the admin to that.

The only posts you WON'T see the triangle are your own. You can't report yourself.

If you need to report yourself ask someone else to do that for you ;-)

So now you know what many "morning people" self included do when checking TE waaaay too early in the morning and you can be part of the posse that keeps TE spam free too.

Figured this thread could be a place for general TE tips, managing attachments, creating icons, how too uze the spell cheque feechure.

[Brandi]

Thank you. I was one of those who didn't know!

[SadieKate]

Thanks, Trek, it's nice being in a later time zone and a later riser than some of you insomniacs. Thanks for taking care of all the riff-raff. :)

The forum rules also recently underwent a facelift.
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_policies

[DeniseGoldberg]

The forum rules also recently underwent a facelift.
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_policies

Thanks for letting us know that the rules were updated. It's funny, I've recently stopped myself from adding a note to some threads about copying text from other web sites - it felt wrong even though the copying was acknowledged, but I thought maybe I was over-reacting. Glad to see the additions to the rules.

--- Denise

[Trek420]

SadieKate, we're in the same time zone! :)

And I dunno if I'm an earlier riser than you. You got yourself to the TdC from Davis and to rides here, I only had to meet Spazz and then go across the Bay.

We looked for you after watching the race and walking almost the entire route BTW but were not sure which booth. Picture Trek & Spazz wandering from booth to booth "are YOU SadieKate?"

And Brandi don't feel bad, I didn't know about the facelift and shoulda known better about some pictures, I'm a design major for gosh sakes.

[SadieKate]

Deleting this post now because it doesn't have any forum tips; it's just a hijack.

[Bike Goddess]

Sadie Kate-- If you come down, there is a shuttle from Benicia to Martinez. Starts at 6:30AM and every hour on the 1/2 hour til 4:30PM. The shuttle can hold 14 bikes so you can take your bike over or not. It's free! I wouldn't recommend driving as it will be pretty hard to get around in a car.

PM me if you want directions. I'm riding over via Carquinez Bridge. The club is also going if you want to go at 8:00 AM! Race starts at 11:00- best to be there around 10AM. 9:30 AM bus would work. OR AMTRAK!!!!!!!!!!

[tatormc]

I've seen several posts where someone stated they missed a thread. Here are some simple steps to never miss a new thread or post again. After you log in to TE click New Posts on the top tool bar. It will pull everything that's new from the time you logged out last. Then next to each thread you'll see a little box with a check box in it. If you click this you'll be taken to the first unread post.

[RoadRaven]

Thanks Trek
I guess I needed to take note of this before - its not a feature of other boards I have been at and spam makes me so mad (anyone else notice my little tantrum earlier? :p )
Road - taking a chill pill - Raven
:rolleyes:

[Trek420]

Bump!

good morning TE.

Just bumping this up as a reminder how to report spam. :D

[SadieKate]

Double bump - good info about copyright infringement.

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_policies

[DeniseGoldberg]

Double bump - good info about copyright infringement.

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_policies

Funny - I was going to post the same thing but you beat me to it. One of the big copyright infringements that I've been noticing lately is people copying text from other sites. Sometimes there is an acknowledgement of the source, sometimes not. But whether even with an acknowledgement it is an infringement of copyright.

--- Denise

[SadieKate]

Denise, lemme guess. You are also in a position where you have to keep an eye on your company's intellectual property or some other copyrighted material?

[DeniseGoldberg]

Denise, lemme guess. You are also in a position where you have to keep an eye on your company's intellectual property or some other copyrighted material?
Uh, sort of. My work life revolves around product management and QA for a software company. So yes, intellectual property & copyrighted material both come into play here. In the past I worked for a health care software company and was caught up in making sure we were following the HIPAA (privacy) regulations. And of course that we were acknowledging the use of copyrighted materials.

I guess everything related to privacy and security plus falling into copyright areas is intertwined in my head...

--- Denise

[SadieKate]

Ditto! I contract the project services for a health care software company with its own clinical content. You want info, even a project plan, you have to pay for it.

[SadieKate]

Has anyone had "problems" with the spell checker? It appears to get creative with apostrophes. Doesn't seem to get the difference between the plural, the possessive or the contractive. Is it just the grouchy grammar grinch getting grumpy?

[maillotpois]

There's a spell checker?

[SadieKate]

Yes, I had to download it. Someone called our attention to it somewhere, somehow. Who was it and where? Trek420 prolly knows.

[Dianyla]

There's a spell checker?
There's a spellchecker in some web browsers, but not in the forums software.

[snapdragen]

There's a spell checker?

See up at the top of the Reply to Thread box, in the right hand corner? There's a little check mark with ABC - spell checker. It's for IE only though. Firefox has one too, but I don't know the name.

Now if someone would invent an internet grammar checker, Sadie could rest.....:D

[SadieKate]

Hey, I know who my compatriots are.;)

[Lise]

Has anyone had "problems" with the spell checker? It appears to get creative with apostrophes. Doesn't seem to get the difference between the plural, the possessive or the contractive. Is it just the grouchy grammar grinch getting grumpy?
SK--people don't know the difference between the plural, possessive, or contractive! People program machines...:rolleyes: My favorite misuse of the apostrophe to date (and I've been collecting them for over 30 years), is the sign in a window in my neighborhood, advertising the following service: Re'sume's. Oh, the irony.

I appreciate the presence of another GGG! ;) Have you seen this? http://angryflower.com/aposter.html My personal favorite. I found my 6 year old nephew studying the poster on the side of my frig one day. I hope I've saved one child from lawless apostrophe abuse! L.

[SadieKate]

lawless apostrophe abuseThat's so good I changed my signature line.

"Re'sume's" - that's very unique.;) :rolleyes:

I'm adding you to my compatriot list.

[maillotpois]

Oh my gosh that poster is excellent!! I get super grouchy about apostrophe abuse also. I specifically hate when people use them to pluralize - even for something like RVs, VCRs, etc. Just because it's all caps doesn't mean it's special. Then there's the whole it's/its debacle - and I don't mean the tasty ice cream sandwich made locally in the Bay Area....

Now that's not to say I am not guilty of my fair share of typos. (I never learned how to type correctly, so I type with about 3 fingers and tend to go very fast but sometimes make mistakes. But throwing in gratuitous apostrohpes won't be the sort of mistake I usually make...)

[bikerz]

All grammar grinches need to read the book "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves!" (It's on my stack...) :D

There was a Stouffers poster in Bart with a misplaced comma in the copy that I had to look at EVERY DAY and it drove me INSANE! Finally it was replaced with one of those ubiquitous Ipod posters instead...

[DrBee]

I like the "incorrect rule #3" - add one whenever you want. That seems to happen waaaaayyyyy too often. I see this a lot when I'm reviewing manuscripts. Drives me nuts!

[Bad JuJu]

I teach English composition to college freshman, and if you think YOU'VE seen apostrophe abuse...in the words of an old popular song, "you ain't seen nothin', yet." Drives me absolutely freakin' nuts.

And hey, bikerz, I love Eats, Shoots, and Leaves!

Anybody shop at Lands' End? They admitted a few years ago that their apostrophe is incorrect, but they say they're keeping it that way to remind them of their fallibility--right, and to avoid having to correct all their corporate letterhead stuff, too. :rolleyes:

[SadieKate]

In college, I typed papers for money (yeah, a real typewriter and I learned on a manual). I finally told a Business Management major, a steady customer, that I was going to stop correcting his special version of the word "management" if he didn't figure it out. Amazingly, the next paper was perfectly spelled.

[bikerz]

My favorite misuse of the apostrophe to date (and I've been collecting them for over 30 years), is the sign in a window in my neighborhood, advertising the following service: Re'sume's. Oh, the irony.
Hey Lise - have you ever read the book Ex Libris by Anne Fadiman? She has a really hilarious essay in there about her family (grammar grinches one and all!) who have a family sport of collecting published grammer errors. That's a really great little book! (She also wrote the wonderful The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down, which was mentioned on a another thread here recently.)

(Can anyone tell I'd rather be doing something besides working right now?)

[Lise]

I insistantly misspelled Thucydides in a history paper in college. The instructor got so mad that he circled each instance in red, and wrote the correct spelling in caps across the title page. :o Don't believe I've had cause to write the name again until today, 27 years later, but you'd best believe I checked the spelling before posting! :eek: :p L.

[Lise]

Hey Lise - have you ever read the book Ex Libris by Anne Fadiman? She has a really hilarious essay in there about her family (grammar grinches one and all!) who have a family sport of collecting published grammer errors. That's a really great little book! (She also wrote the wonderful The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down, which was mentioned on a another thread here recently.)

(Can anyone tell I'd rather be doing something besides working right now?)
Oh, yes, I loved Ex Libris and The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down. Especially the latter. My first degree is in anthropology, and the next two are in science/health care. The only thing wrong with that book is I didn't write it! If somebody ever offers to pay my bills and support me while I get a doctorate, I'll look at something like that.

I am going out to ride my bike. Really. Right now! :p

(has anyone ever noticed how hard it is to type with a cat sitting on your hands?)

[Adventure Girl]

Then there's the whole it's/its debacle - and I don't mean the tasty ice cream sandwich made locally in the Bay Area....My favorite post of the day!!!:D

[Dianyla]

Regarding the re'sume's sign... I don't consider this outright apostrophe abuse. They were trying to type the french e+acute accent letter to produce the word résumés. A lot of word processors have the language options set so that you use the apostrophe key right before or after the desired vowel to be accented.

So, in their quest to be more professional, they ended up looking incompetent. :rolleyes:

[yellow]

OK, I'll come out of the closet as well as a GGG.

In addition to grammar, I have issues with the misuse of perfectly good words. I'll never forget the time I was in some high-powered meeting (back in the day when I wore suits) and I heard my boss use the word irregardless in front of about 30 snooty professionals. I'm sure my face turned red. THAT one drives me batty.

Others? Mischevious, not miss-chee-vee-us. And potable, not pot-able. However, as a friend of mine once said, "If millions of people make the same mistake, is it truly a mistake? Maybe YOU'RE the one that needs to get updated." I still refuse to conform.

I'm not perfect, by any means. But I know how to use an apostrophe and most forms of punctuation.

P.S. Lise, I'm with you. I've wasted enough time that it started raining again, which means that I won't be riding outside. I think I have a date with my trainer instead.

[SadieKate]

Comparable? Compare-able or?

Often as in orphan or as in frequently? (Anyone know their Gilbert and Sullivan?)

[Crankin]

I thought I was the only grammar grinch. I have not given in to the urge to correct posts that constantly put apostrophes any place an s appears at the end of a word. But, it seems like the whole world does this. I don't want to seem like an old lady English techer (which I am). It's one thing if my sixth graders can't do this correctly, but adults should know the difference between a plural and a possessive.

[maillotpois]

Then there's the whole it's/its debacle - and I don't mean the tasty ice cream sandwich made locally in the Bay Area....



My favorite post of the day!!!:D


Thanks! Every time I drive by their factory or whatever it is on South 101 by the SF airport, I'm always fixated on their sign. Mmmm. It's Its. Or are they It's It's? Now that I don't know.

You know, I should really go get one to clarify the issue.

[Veronica]

What about capitals at the beginning of sentences? I've wondered if there are keyboards out there without a shift key. :p

Like MP, I am a terrible typist. Three fingers and a thumb on my right hand do most of the work. AND for some reason "the" often gets typed as "teh". Annoying.

Wanna have some fun... explain the difference between a subordinate clause and a coordinating clause to a fifth grader. Then convince them that although a sentence has a conjunction, it is not necessarily a compound or complex sentence.

V.

PS I do know that wanna really should be want to. :D

[Veronica]

Thanks! Every time I drive by their factory or whatever it is on South 101 by the SF airport, I'm always fixated on their sign. Mmmm. It's Its. Or are they It's It's? Now that I don't know.

You know, I should really go get one to clarify the issue.


You know whatever they are, I don't like them. :( I'd rather have a Klondike. Alas, poor Yorick and I are swearing off Klondikes in hopes a few more pounds will disappear to aid the climbing effort. I knew those Klondikes very well.

V.

[maillotpois]

What about capitals at the beginning of sentences? I've wondered if there are keyboards out there without a shift key. :p

Like MP, I am a terrible typist. Three fingers and a thumb on my right hand do most of the work. AND for some reason "the" often gets typed as "teh". Annoying.

Wanna have some fun... explain the difference between a subordinate clause and a coordinating clause to a fifth grader. Then convince them that although a sentence has a conjunction, it is not necessarily a compound or complex sentence.

V.

PS I do know that wanna really should be want to. :D


OMG - another 3 fingered typing freak!! We should have a club. Or a support group. (Yes, I know I should not start a sentence with a conjuction - and that that was a sentence fragment. "Conjunction junction, what's your function....?").

I also transpose letters, which can be a pain. I am also guilty of not capitalizing letters that should be capitalized when I am using my handheld. (Have you seen the size of my thumbs? You think typing with 3 fingers is tough....:D )

[Jones]

Maybe you English teachers and grouchy grammar grinches can help me. I was taught that you could go anyway but not anyways. I see and hear people use the word anyways as a conjunction often. It bugs me. Is it correct.
Jones

[SadieKate]

You know, I should really go get one to clarify the issue.Another good excuse for "the calories don't count when . . . " thread. The calories don't count when it is to solve a grammar question.

Good one, MP.

[maillotpois]

Another good excuse for "the calories don't count when . . . " thread. The calories don't count when it is to solve a grammar question.

Good one, MP.

But thank you for supplying the validation.

[Lise]

Regarding the re'sume's sign... I don't consider this outright apostrophe abuse. They were trying to type the french e+acute accent letter to produce the word résumés. A lot of word processors have the language options set so that you use the apostrophe key right before or after the desired vowel to be accented.

So, in their quest to be more professional, they ended up looking incompetent. :rolleyes:
Alas, it is a neon sign.

[withm]

It would seem that proper grammar is not everyone's forte.

Even the FRENCH pronounce it "fort." Where do people get the idea that it's for-tay?

[SadieKate]

The French don't care what they do actually, as long as they pronounce it properly.

Professor Higgins (My Fair Lady)

I have musicals on the brain today.

[Veronica]

It would seem that proper grammar is not everyone's forte.

Even the FRENCH pronounce it "fort." Where do people get the idea that it's for-tay?


From the dictionary :D - according to Webster's it should have a long a or a long e sound at the end.

V.

[bikerz]

Oh, yes, I loved Ex Libris and The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down. Especially the latter. My first degree is in anthropology, and the next two are in science/health care. The only thing wrong with that book is I didn't write it! If somebody ever offers to pay my bills and support me while I get a doctorate, I'll look at something like that.
You are so right! My first degree was in Anthro also! (Alas, propbably my only degree, unless I win the lottery and can pursue degrees for fun in comparative linguistics, Spanish lit, medical anthropology ... oh, so many things are interesting!)

My favorite is "reduplicate", which I know is a real word, but seems like it shouldn't be. Worse, "reduplicate again". I have a client who says this all the time. And another client says "flustrated" - maybe a cross between "flustered" and "frustrated".

I am totally loving this thread - I feel like you all are my long lost, three-fingered typing, language-freak family!

[KnottedYet]

I've come to view grammar as mere guidelines in my maturing years.:D Sometimes you want to follow the rules, sometimes what you want to communicate works better if you break the rules. (Sometimes I can't be bothered.)

Kinda like composing music in the key of C major, and tossing in a couple of accidentals. Those accidentals can say a lot.

I was a librarian in one of my former lives, and am the product of a fine lineage of librarians. I get far more disturbed by library books shelved out of call-number order than by grammar-as-creative-enterprise. If I can understand what someone is trying to say, then they have communicated successfully.

I read dictionaries for fun. Ain't kidding.

[KnottedYet]

If you want an exercise in medium vs. message, read "Push" by Sapphire.

Then read some Mary Oliver. You'll need to.

Do both communicate successfully? Compare and contrast, using the conventions of Strunk and White, single-sided and double-spaced, and return to me by next week. Yes, you in the back row with the headphones? No, you may not email your paper to me. You may deliver it to the department office or bring it to class. I must have it by Friday for you to recieve full credit.

P.S. Strunk and White cohabitate beautifully with Rhyme's Reason on my bookshelf. All they need is a complete OED for company. Hardbound, not CD. If I ever meet someone with a complete OED, I might just have to sleep with them. (the OED)

[profàvélo]

It would seem that proper grammar is not everyone's forte.

Even the FRENCH pronounce it "fort." Where do people get the idea that it's for-tay?

Probably the same reason we pronounce "crêpe" as if it were "crape," while the French word actually rhymes with English "step." It's a word that's been borrowed from French, and its pronunciation has been adapted/changed.

(note the use of "it's" and "its" ;) )

In fact, the French word is "fort," pronounced like "four" (with a French R, of course, but no T). It's the masculine form of the adjective that can be used as a noun (to mean the opposite of a weakness). The T of the feminine adjective "forte" is pronounced, but the E is not. We (speakers of English) just made that up.

I am sure you were all losing sleep over this one.

[SadieKate]

All they need is a complete OED for company. Hardbound, not CD. If I ever meet someone with a complete OED, I might just have to sleep with them. (the OED)Whew, I only have the compact edition and haven't gotten any updates. I'm safe or maybe it's safe. :confused: :p :D

[maillotpois]

Whew, I only have the compact edition and haven't gotten any updates. I'm safe or maybe it's safe. :confused: :p :D


I've got the compact, too. My father in law has the complete (2 volume, tiny print, comes with magnifying glass....) I have envy.

[SadieKate]

Mine says compact but is 2 volume, tiny print, etc. Did they change format? Better not tell Knotted about your FIL.;)

[bikerz]

This might be the only place this is safe to admit, but I have ALWAYS wanted the full 20 volume set of the OED, on its own little stand! (unfortunately, current price: $1500 :eek:)

(But sorry Knotted - if I had it (them?) I'm not sure I'd let it out for sleep-overs!)

[maillotpois]

Mine says compact but is 2 volume, tiny print, etc. Did they change format? Better not tell Knotted about your FIL.;)

You know what, I was confused. I have the Concise OED. My father in law has the Compact - that I covet. And I guess now I covet yours, too.

[Dianyla]

I always pronounced forte "for-tay" after the Italian word forte, commonly used in sheetmusic instructions. :)

[KnottedYet]

When the latest edition of the complete OED came out, Village Books had an old one for sale for only $800. Cuz it was like totally out of date dontcha know.

Man, if I'd had the money I'd've nabbed it.

Then I could've slept with my own.;)

[Lise]

20 volumes of the OED on their own stand. I don't think it would be little.

I have an old dictionary that my Grandma gave me for my 20th bday, 26 years ago. It's on a wonderful, slightly spindley dictionary stand that I found in an antiques store. The other day, when double checking the spelling of Thucydides :cool: I thought, "I really should get a new dictionary." I have a bit of a problem with anthropomorphizing, though, and getting rid of the dictionary from Grandma feels kind of like disrespecting the ancestors. On the other hand, she was a librarian and English teacher, so she'd WANT me to have an up-to-date dictionary! Yes! Thank you, TE grammar grinches, for helping me resolve this thorny dilemma! I'll ask my sibs to give me a new dictionary for my b-day! Problem solved! :D

[SadieKate]

Don't get rid of the old one. For sentimental reasons but also the references to countries that no longer exist and all kinds of stuff from ages past.

[Lise]

Don't get rid of the old one. For sentimental reasons but also the references to countries that no longer exist and all kinds of stuff from ages past.
Ah, I'd never get rid of it. My sister bought a globe once at a garage sale because it has the Soviet Union on it. That's something I'd like. A globe from 1960, the year I was born. The world as it was when I came in. :)

[Trek420]

I go off surfing for a dog trainer, come back and TE gals are sleeping with the OED. You gals are kinky :eek: this is a family forum.

[Lise]

I go off surfing for a dog trainer, come back and TE gals are sleeping with the OED. You gals are kinky :eek: this is a family forum.
It's OK. The kids don't know what the OED is. ;)

[snapdragen]

Trek - did you find a trainer? I highly recommend Bay Area Dog Training - Mike is awesome.


new drift.....I don't like vermouth.

[withm]

From the dictionary :D - according to Webster's it should have a long a or a long e sound at the end.

V.


When you are speaking of someone's strengths, "fort" is correct, however, the musical term is "for-tay."

However I admit that we continue to corrupt the English language and pronounciations evolve despite the efforts of the grammar police to lock our language in place.

From http://thesaurus.reference.com/

for·te Pronunciation Key (fôrt, fôrt, frt)
n.
Something in which a person excels.
The strong part of a sword blade, between the middle and the hilt.


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[French fort, from Old French, strong, from Latin fortis. See fort.]

Synonyms: forte, métier, specialty, thing

These nouns denote something at which a person is particularly skilled: Writing fiction is her forte. The theater is his métier. The professor's specialty was the study of ancient languages. Mountain climbing is really my thing.
Usage Note: The word forte, coming from French fort, should properly be pronounced with one syllable, like the English word fort. Common usage, however, prefers the two-syllable pronunciation, (fôrt), which has been influenced possibly by the music term forte borrowed from Italian. In a recent survey a strong majority of the Usage Panel, 74 percent, preferred the two-syllable pronunciation. The result is a delicate situation; speakers who are aware of the origin of the word may wish to continue to pronounce it as one syllable but at an increasing risk of puzzling their listeners.

[Trek420]

Thanks Snap, I've had some responses and trying to narrow it down to the right one for the fearocious beast. I googled and found several Bay Area Dog Training Groups, which one is Mike in? Can you PM me Mikes info?

Thought we only drift in Triathlons?

[Duck on Wheels]

Words imported from other languages often change pronunciation in the process. They also often change meanings. I think that in French "forte" means strong, while in English it means strength, as in a thing that you're good at. I could be wrong in that instance, but there are plenty of other examples of the phenomenon. These kinds of shifts in meaning and pronunciation are so common that you pretty much have to accept them as correct. Some other examples:
Queen in English comes from kvinne (pron: kvinn-uh) in Norse, which simply means woman.
Husband in English comes from husbond (pron: hoos-bohnd) in Norse, which means farmer (a meaning maintained in "animal husbandry").
And what was the one I saw the other day ... Oh yeah! One of my grad students is French. In an essay in English he used the term savoir faire. He used it, I think, in the French sense, i.e. simply as knack, or know-how, or skill. But moved to English it also carries a bit of a flair, precisely because it is imported. So it has some mystique, some je-ne-sais-quois, some romance, some .... hmmm, is there an Anglo-Saxon word at all that expresses this? Or is the mysterious quality and status of an import word something we can only express with other (meaning-modified) import words? ;)

[Lise]

.... hmmm, is there an Anglo-Saxon word at all that expresses this? Or is the mysterious quality and status of an import word something we can only express with other (meaning-modified) import words? ;)
Precious little romance in the Anglo-Saxon, it seems. My ancestors: We invade you. We win. ;)

The name of my profession, "midwife" is from old German, and means "with woman". Although I prefer what they call us in French -- sagefemme. It looks and sounds beautiful, and means wise woman.

[DirtDiva]

How do "they" know for sure that the genesis of an English word is from one language or another? It can't be an exact science. I mean, the Italian forte has the same latin root as the French forte and also means "strong" (rather than the generally held belief that it means "play as loud as you can until your music teacher covers her/his ears and begs you to stop abusing her/his precious piano so" ;)).

I often think I couldn't hack life as a mod - Id find it so veery dificilt too rezist squigeling my red teecher pen al ovr peepils' posts. :rolleyes:

[bikerz]

is there an Anglo-Saxon word at all that expresses this? Or is the mysterious quality and status of an import word something we can only express with other (meaning-modified) import words?

There's always the fallback to the the word "whatever", in all it's various intonations. It's like the "white flag of surrender" signaling a complete failure of vocabulary. That, and the loss in some conversations of verbs to express speech. I've overheard conversations very similar to this one: "I'm all, whatever, and he goes, whatever, we're like, you know, whatever."

(I seem to be feeling particulary grinchy this morning - time for a bike ride in the cold fog! What happened to spring? We went straight from winter rain to summer gloom and fog :( )

[bikerz]

I often think I couldn't hack life as a mod - Id find it so veery dificilt too rezist squigeling my red teecher pen al ovr peepils' posts. :rolleyes:

Isn't it hard to get the red pen parks off your monitor? :D

[Trek420]

whatever ;)

[DirtDiva]

You know it is, z! :D

[snapdragen]

I'll track it down when I get home - the business is actually called Bay Area Dog Training - Mike Hatjes is the owner. I'm sure I've got his card at home.

I drift all over the place.....:rolleyes:



Thanks Snap, I've had some responses and trying to narrow it down to the right one for the fearocious beast. I googled and found several Bay Area Dog Training Groups, which one is Mike in? Can you PM me Mikes info?

Thought we only drift in Triathlons?

[Veronica]

There's always the fallback to the the word "whatever", in all it's various intonations. It's like the "white flag of surrender" signaling a complete failure of vocabulary.

I like "whatever." But I think I use it more to say, "I think you're an idiot, b*tch or some other derogatory word and I think what you're doing is stupid, rude or just plain wrong. But it doesn't really affect me so... whatever."

V.

[Lise]

Remember that scene in The Wizard of Oz, early in the movie, where Margaret Hamilton (soon to be the Wicked Witch), tells Dorothy and her family that she's going to get an order to have Toto put down? Auntie Em says, "So and so (I can't remember her pre-witch name), if I weren't a good Christian woman, I'd tell you just what I think of you!" I think of that sometimes. Sort of a predecessor to V's version of "whatever".

[Veronica]

Elmira Gulch!

I love The Wizard of Oz. It's one of my three favorite movies - the other two being Gone with the Wind. I'd swoon for Rhett Butler. :D And Aliens, which I think is funny, romantic and scary. I think after Thom and Rhett, Michael Biehn is pretty sexy.

V.

[maillotpois]

I like "whatever." But I think I use it more to say, "I think you're an idiot, b*tch or some other derogatory word and I think what you're doing is stupid, rude or just plain wrong. But it doesn't really affect me so... whatever."

V.

You gotta do "whatever" with the handsign - your hands forming a "W" - What-EVER!. Petitepois has customized it to combine with the "L" handsign at your forehead - "What-EVER, Loser!"

[Starfish]

I'd swoon for Rhett Butler.

Oh man, my first major media crush after reading the book as a 5th grader (and 7th, and 9th, etc.). Last year I almost died laughing (to myself) when my 15 yo niece bought herself a DVD copy of GWTW and got her hands on a life-size cutout of Clark Gable as Rhett for her bedroom! I guess some crushes are timeless. Love Wizard of Oz, too, and your definition of WhatEVER!

[Dianyla]

From our fliends at engrish.com: Grammar Crisis (http://www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=grammar-crisis-room.jpg&category=Signs/Posters&date=2006-05-04) :p

[SadieKate]

Oh, sheesh. I have tears running down my face.

What's for dinner? Woof! :o

[Dianyla]

Oh, sheesh. I have tears running down my face.

What's for dinner? Woof! :o
Yep, looks like someone just lost her engrish virginity! :p

[maillotpois]

OMG - I only looked at the grammar crisis before.

"Cheerful Lion. I will support your happy! This happy is a secret for you and me."

Wow. Speechless. Woof.

[Starfish]

Oh, sheesh. I have tears running down my face.


Oh my gosh! Engrish. "Lots of enjoy, lots of cry."

[maillotpois]

I had lots of cry. My husband demanded I get off the internet because I kept sending them to him. Crying.

[Lise]

OMG. I wish I had more time to explore this. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart! I will FIND the time! I will! :p L.

[SadieKate]

From our fliends at engrish.com: Grammar Crisis (http://www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=grammar-crisis-room.jpg&category=Signs/Posters&date=2006-05-04) :pI can't even get to the Grammar Crisis yet. I'm having to dole out the Engrish in bits and pieces. My stomach hurts from laughing.