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Catrin
12-06-2012, 03:32 AM
It feels like I only started to learn how to really cook in August...at least that is when I became brave enough to actually COOK, rather than to just toss frozen chicken breasts in the oven and veggies in the steamer.

Anyway - I roast a lot. I love roast pork, roast chicken, and now I've access to good quality grass-fed beef from a local farmer, some of the cuts are quite large. I do a lot of braising as these are all lower-quality cuts, and braising does wonderful things to these cuts of meat. Right now I've two arm roasts in my freezer that are just too large for the large baking dish that I tend to use as a roaster/braiser and it is time to add to my kitchen implements.

With all of the holiday sales, I've noted that I can get a decent dedicated electric roaster/cooker for the same price as a decent oven roaster. Is there an advantage to having a dedicated roaster rather than getting an oven roaster? I've the idea the electric roaster is more versatile but I may be mistaken. If you have one, do you use it or does it wind up collecting dust because of <insert reason here>?

e3rdpower
12-06-2012, 07:37 AM
I cook quite a bit. I'm a fan of Alton Brown's theory of kitchen appliances in avoiding "one trick ponies" whenever possible. I have only an oven roaster-I don't roast terribly often, being in South Florida I hate heating up the kitchen for long periods of time. An electric roaster would certainly eliminate that issue, but to me it just takes up space. For what it's worth, I would get a nice quality slow cooker (if you don't have one) and an oven roaster. I find a slow cooker extraordinarily versatile and easy, and it would be great for those cuts of meat.

Catrin
12-06-2012, 07:45 AM
I cook quite a bit. I'm a fan of Alton Brown's theory of kitchen appliances in avoiding "one trick ponies" whenever possible. I have only an oven roaster-I don't roast terribly often, being in South Florida I hate heating up the kitchen for long periods of time. An electric roaster would certainly eliminate that issue, but to me it just takes up space. For what it's worth, I would get a nice quality slow cooker (if you don't have one) and an oven roaster. I find a slow cooker extraordinarily versatile and easy, and it would be great for those cuts of meat.

I have a slow cooker - but it doesn't cook "slow" enough. It's lowest temperature is too high and it is too small for these cuts of meat... It is a quite nice one, and it wasn't inexpensive when I got it a 2 years ago, but it's low temperature is too blasted high :mad:

OakLeaf
12-06-2012, 08:02 AM
I'd invest in a nice enameled cast iron oven that you could use both stovetop and in the oven. Like a 5-1/2 qt round Le Creuset, you can use that for stews, soups, steaming with a foldable rack, as well as braising. They're not cheap, but they do go on sale periodically, and it'll last a couple-three lifetimes. :)

There are some "other" brands available now. I don't know anything about the quality. I did have the enamel fail on one Le Creuset item and they replaced it no questions asked. Another one was a wedding gift to me and my first husband in 1983 (yikes :eek:) and while it's got some staining, it's really not worn otherwise.


Another possible investment would be (whenever your current microwave fails, as they seem to way too often :(), to get a combination convection oven/microwave. Another thing that isn't cheap, but will save you on both counter space and on not having to heat up the big oven when you're just cooking for yourself. I'm really liking the one we got last year.

Catrin
12-06-2012, 08:36 AM
Good idea Oakleaf. I've been noting sales on large enameled cast iron ovens/pans, though I don't know what the quality actually was. I am a renter so I've no say in the replacement of my microwave/etc. The nice thing is I don't have to at least pay for it when it breaks :)

I was at Meijers the other day and they had some large enamel roasters, but I do like the idea of something I can use for both oven and stovetop. The attraction of the dedicated roaster was the ability to also use it for other things. We will see what I can find, at least this is a good time of the year for sales! Right now I am simply considering my options and needs.

indysteel
12-06-2012, 08:38 AM
I had a response to add to this thread that I didn't have time to post that basically echoes Oak's suggestion about enameled cast iron. Until a few years ago, I didn't do much cooking. Now I cook all the time, and my enamel dutch ovens are my most loved and most used pieces of cookware. They provide even cooking, are non-reactive when cooking with acids, go from stovetop to oven, and are easy to clean. The main thing that I don't use them for is roast chicken. For that, I used a heavy stainless roasting pan with a rack.

I don't have any Le Creuset because of their cost. I have two from Lodge and another from Tramontina, which Walmart sells (I normally avoid Walmart like the plague, but Cook's Illustrated gave it a good review so I beg for mercy). So far, they've all held up well.

As for electric roasters, they are a versatile tool. Just be warned that they are not good for browning. So, if you like crispy skin on your turkey or chicken, you might not be happy with the results.

Catrin
12-06-2012, 08:59 AM
Indy - thanks for the comment about the Tramontina, I think that might have been what I saw at Meijers the other day but I could be mistaken. I will consider this along with my other options. I've never used enameled cookware so really hadn't considered it but it sounds like there is a lot in their favor. Thanks!

indysteel
12-06-2012, 10:12 AM
Indy - thanks for the comment about the Tramontina, I think that might have been what I saw at Meijers the other day but I could be mistaken. I will consider this along with my other options. I've never used enameled cookware so really hadn't considered it but it sounds like there is a lot in their favor. Thanks!

I don't think Meier carries Tramontina, but there are a number of other brands out there so you may have seen something similar. Again, I'm no Walmart fan, but their prices on it are pretty good. I've gotten some good deals on Lodge at Amazon, too. Cooking.com often runs email specials, if you sign up for them. In any event, given what you've shared about what you're looking for, I'd look for 6.5-7.5 quart models. Perhaps they'll be big enough for your needs.

Owlie
12-06-2012, 10:45 AM
Agreed on the enameled cast iron. Mom got a Le Creuset set as a wedding present and only recently dug them out. Some of the pieces are too heavy for her to lift, but there are smaller ones she uses all the time.

It's expensive, but they do go on sale every so often, and if you can find a Le Creuset outlet near you, you could always check them out. (I know there's one near Dayton/Cincy, but that's quite a drive.)

Becky
12-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Check Marshalls/TJ Maxx/Home Goods too. I often find Le Creuset and other enameled cast iron pieces there.

tulip
12-06-2012, 01:41 PM
I'd invest in a nice enameled cast iron oven that you could use both stovetop and in the oven. Like a 5-1/2 qt round Le Creuset, you can use that for stews, soups, steaming with a foldable rack, as well as braising. They're not cheap, but they do go on sale periodically, and it'll last a couple-three lifetimes. :)

There are some "other" brands available now. I don't know anything about the quality. I did have the enamel fail on one Le Creuset item and they replaced it no questions asked. Another one was a wedding gift to me and my first husband in 1983 (yikes :eek:) and while it's got some staining, it's really not worn otherwise.


Another possible investment would be (whenever your current microwave fails, as they seem to way too often :(), to get a combination convection oven/microwave. Another thing that isn't cheap, but will save you on both counter space and on not having to heat up the big oven when you're just cooking for yourself. I'm really liking the one we got last year.

I love my Le Creuset Dutch oven. I've had it for about 20 years and it's not going anywhere. Thanks for the tip about the microwave/convection oven combo. I actually HAVE one, but I always forget about the convection oven and turn on my big oven. I prefer my big oven because it's gas, but I really don't need to use it to heat up small things or bake sweet potatoes. I'll have to remember to use it!

My one-trick ponies in the kitchen are my rice cooker, which I used extensively when I was eating rice, and a slow cooker, which I also have rather forgotten about since it's tucked away. It's great for winter stews, time to break it out again!

Oh, and I have a pannini maker that I bought when my kitchen renovation was going on. I rarely use it now, but it was handy when I didn't have a kitchen. (it's actually great for grilling asparagus).

Irulan
12-06-2012, 01:49 PM
Macy's has the Martha Stewart enameled cast iron 60% off Saturday, online also. Items my also be eligible for the extra savings pass- not sure about that.

Catrin
12-08-2012, 08:16 AM
I want to thank all of you for your comments and suggestions. I saved TJ Max for last - I've not been to one in years and I see I've been shorting myself by not going! They did have several Le Creuset Dutch ovens - still very expensive even if they were $100 off retail :eek: They weren't really quite large enough outside of one slightly damaged (chipped) model - but even that was well over the limit I had set for myself. After some thought I brought home a 7 qt Cuisinart dutch oven. It is quite nice, and while it may well have come out of the same factory as the cheaper version at Meijers, it wasn't in the box so I could see that the lid fits well and no chips. No roaster with rack, but that can come at a later time.

OakLeaf
12-19-2012, 05:20 AM
Sur la Table 5-qt and 8-qt enameled cast iron ovens $79 http://www.surlatable.com/category/cat850438/?om_u=NsiuLK&om_i=_BQ0bpUB8v0QMZB&ch=eml

Catrin
12-19-2012, 09:19 AM
Very nice Oakleaf! I think my next kitchen purchase will be an oven-safe enamel skillet. I love my new dutch oven but it is a bit large for smaller tasks like fritatas.

OakLeaf
12-19-2012, 01:13 PM
I do frittatas in a regular non-enameled cast iron skillet. I do it mostly on the stovetop, and just finish them under the broiler for five minutes or so.

Yum.

Catrin
12-19-2012, 01:31 PM
I do frittatas in a regular non-enameled cast iron skillet. I do it mostly on the stovetop, and just finish them under the broiler for five minutes or so.

Yum.

I've not had much luck with plain cast iron in a long time...I destroy the seasoning at the drop of a hat :( I eat fritatas a LOT, and I've never been lucky in cooking eggs with cast irn regardless of seasoning. How were you able to season it that well? As for me, I just cook the sausage on top of the stove, then mix in the eggs and veggies, and pop the whole thing into the oven for about 30 minutes. Yum :)

OakLeaf
12-19-2012, 01:41 PM
I don't know, just re-seasoned the pan often, like pretty much every use, when it was new? I don't eat pork, really not that much meat at all, which kind of makes me have to be more diligent about caring for the pan. I would think cooking bacon a few times would season it up pretty well. :) I sauté the vegetables in a good amount of oil, considerably more than I'd use for the veggies alone, then pour the beaten eggs over them. Maybe 10 minutes stovetop (if it's really deep, I'll cover the skillet), then a few minutes under the broiler. Maybe a sprinkle of grated parmigiano reggiano. :)

I do have a cast iron wok that I was never able to season. :( It's sitting unused because I just could not get the surface right.

Catrin
12-19-2012, 03:19 PM
Yeah, that sounds like what I've tried to do, but was never successful on keeping it seasoned. Enamel covered does it for me :)