65 and new to cycling

[sashadieken]

I've been riding now for a few weeks and have worked up to 16 mile rides, but my average speed stays the same, right at 8 mph. How do I get faster?
I either ride on a mostly dirt rail trail or paved/dirt back roads. I have a Specialized Crossroads, which is a comfort bike. Do I need a different bike? Or is there a way to improve on this bike?

[Trek420]

8 mph is really quite good on dirt. :) Keep at it and welcome to TE.

[sashadieken]

Oh, I didn't know that. I am always reading about people averaging 12-15 mph so I thought I was extremely slow! And not improving.

[Trek420]

Cycling is a multi year sport. It can take years to really build up. So you are off to a great start!

To get speed you need a strong foundation of lots and lots and lots of base miles. Keep riding and you'll build endurance. Once that's established far later this year or next season add hills, interval work, maybe lift weights.

But without a solid foundation of base miles all that's for naught. So keep riding. Speed will come.

Most posting 15 mph+ are on road bikes and not on dirt. So you are doing great. Slicks would not hurt (smoother tires if you have knobbies on the comfort bike) but really ....

8 mph on dirt with a comfort bike? :eek: :confused:

You rock!

[sashadieken]

Okay--now I really feel encouraged! I'll keep at it, and be patient. Thanks :)

[laura*]

Most posting 15 mph+ are on road bikes ...

The saddle to cranks geometry of a comfort bike is meant for ... comfort, not efficiency. The cranks are probably further forward than a road bike. This means you can't use gravity (your body weight) to help push the pedals.


8 mph on dirt with a comfort bike? :eek: :confused:

You rock!

Ditto!

[Catrin]

What the others said, you are doing fantastic! Also, welcome to TE and to cycling :D

[velo]

I think you're doing amazingly! Keep on keeping on! It can seem like it takes forever to see improvements, but they do happen slowly. One day you'll look back and see how far you've come. Good work!

[goldfinch]

I have almost 4000 miles under my belt now, having ridden since April of 2011. I am 57. The last couple of weeks I have been riding rural roads, a mix of gravel, dirt, and pavement on my hybrid bike. My average has ranged from 9.6 to a high of 10.7. The surface and the bike matters. I do much better on pavement with my road bike. As does time riding. Just putting time in the saddle will improve your speed.

Welcome to TE!

[PamNY]

Cycling is a multi year sport. It can take years to really build up. So you are off to a great start!!

This is so true and very important. It takes a long time to build strength. But guess what? Cycling is fun, so it doesn't really matter. You can enjoy yourself even if progress is slower than you'd like.

Consider this: do you need to go fast? I'm quite happy being slow.

[Trek420]

Just putting time in the saddle will improve your speed.

Welcome to TE!

Patience, grasshopper :p But seriously. I'm thrilled beyond belief to be at 8 mph on my utility/hybrid/commuter mobile.

I've learned here that building speed and endurance is like building a house. You need a strong foundation or the whole thing collapses. Don't worry about speed, you are doing great!! Just keep getting TITS. :rolleyes: Everyone get your minds outa the gutter that's Time In The Saddle. Or as some trainers say: take LSD :rolleyes:. Long Slow Distance.

Also for us gals (I'm 56) we need to cross train especially weight bearing. I would not let cycling be the exclusive deal for you.

You've obviously got some fitness going on so depending on that let's say 3-6 months hence start doing a little interval work?

Then we'll enable your addiction by helping you shop for a road bike. :D

[sashadieken]

Yes, my mind is already drifting toward a road bike!

Today I rode the rail trail into town for some lab work, a fasting blood draw. I decided to take off the bulky panniers and, lo and behold, my speed increased! I was going strong on the way in at 9.5 to 10 average, but much slower on the way back. I finally stopped to eat a luna bar and that perked me up. I also noticed that bending lower and sitting back allowed more power to transfer to the pedals, and that's probably why I'm thinking road bike.

I don't know why I think I need to go faster but I guess that's one marker of improvement, but distance would be another, and maybe better, marker.

[kajero]

There is a thread on bikeforums.com devoted to riders over 50. It is really fun. Inside of that thread is another one for riders 65+. I wish we had one of those here!

I also gave up on average mph meaning anything. You can ride all day at 14 mph but if you have to keep stopping for streetlights and what not you will never actually ride at an average of 14 mph!

There is one trail I ride that has very little stopping for anything. I can always average 14-17 mph on it. Another trail I ride that is very similar to it I can never get beyond 12 mph. There are just too many stops signs and lights. It is also busy and if you get behind a group, you often to have follow at their speed until you can pass them.

And if you ride around the Chain of Lakes in Minneapolis, MN, the trails have a speed limit of 10 mph (as if anyone follows THAT).

So to me, average speed is relative. Just ride and enjoy!:)

[Trek420]

There is a thread on bikeforums.com devoted to riders over 50. It is really fun. Inside of that thread is another one for riders 65+. I wish we had one of those here!

We have several large threads titled "Is there anyone/someone here over 30 ... 40 .... 50 ...." I just can't find them at the moment. :o

[AppleTree]

There is a thread on bikeforums.com devoted to riders over 50. It is really fun. Inside of that thread is another one for riders 65+. I wish we had one of those here!

I also gave up on average mph meaning anything. You can ride all day at 14 mph but if you have to keep stopping for streetlights and what not you will never actually ride at an average of 14 mph!

There is one trail I ride that has very little stopping for anything. I can always average 14-17 mph on it. Another trail I ride that is very similar to it I can never get beyond 12 mph. There are just too many stops signs and lights. It is also busy and if you get behind a group, you often to have follow at their speed until you can pass them.

And if you ride around the Chain of Lakes in Minneapolis, MN, the trails have a speed limit of 10 mph (as if anyone follows THAT).

So to me, average speed is relative. Just ride and enjoy!:)

I would second the idea of having a dedicated thread for 50+!! So who do we ask to get that? Not just a thread, but a regular topic, like the "new riders" or "touring" topics.

[sarahkonamojo]

Sasha,
I will just try to help here... you need a new bike!
Along with a lot of base miles, a new road bike will find its way into your life.
So start saving up and looking around and keep riding.
S

[sashadieken]

Sarah,
I'm hearin' ya! I'll be saving up and maybe start looking in earnest next Spring.
(Actually Sasha is one of our dog's name, other one is Dieken.)
Shelley