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Jiffer
07-23-2012, 12:32 PM
As a child I was a towhead blond. As I aged, my hair slowly darkened. (Why did nobody tell me this would happen?!) For several years I dyed and highlighted it. Eventually I stopped dying it, but still highlight it . . . always at a salon. So my natural "dark blond" color, which can tend to be mousy is highlighted with light blond highlights.

I'm now considering just dying it at home.

So what happens if I get a box of blonde dye that is darker than my highlights and lighter than my natural color and put it on my head? Will all of my hair appear the same color? Or will my highlights still appear lighter? Is there a risk of it doing something strange, like making my hair green or orange?

There was a short period of time where I dyed my hair a dark auburn color and did it myself. I had my hairdresser do it initially, mostly because I was going from bleached platinum blond and didn't want to take any chances! This time it seems safer to just do it myself since I'm not doing anything too drastic, but thought I'd see if anyone has any advice.

Thanks!

ehirsch83
07-23-2012, 12:48 PM
As some one who has done both at home and in salon- my advice is- go to the salon if you want stay lighter.

99% of the time, at home jobs turn out yellowish or you end up frying your hair.

I have found it is worth it to spend the $$ for a professional and professional products(and I used to go to GBS or Sally's and buy the dye and the developer... It just isn't the same as high end salon products.

indysteel
07-23-2012, 12:53 PM
This is something I leave to the professionals. I've not overly vain about my hair, but I'd be so upset if it ended up being a weird color. That said, I get highlights about twice a year. They're too expensive to maintain more frequently. I otherwise get all-over color that's about half a shade lighter than my natural color about every 12-13 weeks (I have dark hair with a lot of grey around my face). When that color first goes on, you can't really see the highlights much anymore, but as that top color fades, the highlights start to come out again, although they're more subtle. I usually get a lot of compliments--especially when I'm in the sun--when the color is at that stage because it looks more natural than fresh highlights (at least on me).

Aggie_Ama
07-23-2012, 01:54 PM
Most people I know who lighten their hair too much or highlight it at home end up ruining it to straw. I dye mine a medium ash blonde to cover my gray and use Nice and Easy, this color is very close to my natural color but the biking puts natural highlights in it for me. If I ever feel like keeping up with the maintenance of highlights I would leave it to the pros myself.

jessmarimba
07-23-2012, 02:07 PM
Much more difficult to go lighter than darker at home. To really lighten hair, you need to use some pretty potent chemicals, and that's where your chances of green or orange, etc. come in. Darker you can just dye over the natural color, but lighter you have to strip some of the natural pigment out of the hair first. I self-dye darker sometimes out of boredom but lighter always takes me to a salon!

GLC1968
07-23-2012, 03:45 PM
If you do what you are asking - ie. use a permanent color over hair that is partially virgin and hair that is already processed, you will not see an overall evening. The virgin hair will take on the color of the new dye and the highlighted hair could do any number of assorted things. And yes, green is a possibility. I did something similiar years ago and my hair turned purple (I was working with much darker colors than you are but still....)

Either 1) go with a demi-permanent color (washes out in 30 shampoos but it doesn't really....it just fades) where all it will do is deposit color over your existing. It will deposit color in a different rate on your two different types of hair and it'll likely look overall darker than you expect, but it's less risky than a permanent die that removes and then deposits.

Or 2) go to a professional.

This is coming from someone who dyed her own hair for over 20 years in between bouts of using a professional. You do not want to mess with double-processed hair. Single process (ie. all your highlights have grown out and you are going to dye all the virgin hair) is easy to do at home.

Crankin
07-23-2012, 04:04 PM
I had been getting highlights for 30 years, as my blonde hair got darker and darker. But, with the advent of my short hair cut, which means the highlights last about 6 wks., I started getting all over color (single process, I guess). The result is that when it is growing out, it looks like very expensive highlights. It also means that I can go at least 3 months between coloring, sometimes 4 months. My hair looks dark before it gets colored, but as long as there is not a lot of grey, I try to go as long as I can. This wouldn't work for someone with longer hair, though. What I've learned is: I can't tolerate color with bleach. So, my hair color is a little more on the reddish side than I would like, because I can't get the ash color the bleach gives you. But, I never was a platinum blonde, more like golden.
So far, I only have a little grey near my temple, on the left side. It looks like blonde when it's growing out, so far, OK. When my hair gets more grey, I will have to make more decisions; do I color it darker and get some highlights, or just stick with the all over blonde color? I think #1 will be too expensive, as I go to an expensive salon, which I trust fully. I would never do even the single process on my own. I know too many people that look terrible fromt his.

Veronica
07-23-2012, 04:57 PM
Lucky me - I started going gray at 19. I get my hair done every 5 weeks. My hair and nails grow really fast, probably because of all that protein I eat. :D My hair and my arms/shoulders are my vanities. I'm too young to be so gray.

Veronica

Blueberry
07-23-2012, 07:06 PM
I'm starting to think about this.

I had very blonde hair that also has gotten progressively darker. In the last 6 months, it also has *way* too many gray hairs. All of a sudden. Bleh.

gnat23
07-24-2012, 08:31 AM
Lemme know when you're ready to come over to the Crayola Side.

-- gnat! (I got this!)

SheFly
07-24-2012, 08:49 AM
Lucky me - I started going gray at 19. I get my hair done every 5 weeks. My hair and nails grow really fast, probably because of all that protein I eat. :D My hair and my arms/shoulders are my vanities. I'm too young to be so gray.

Veronica

I got you beat - my first gray was at 16 :eek:. I, personally, gave up and embraced it after 25 years of both salon and DIY coloring. As someone who has had BAD at home hair colors, take thee to the salon - especially with hair that is already treated.

SheFly

GLC1968
07-24-2012, 08:54 AM
Lucky me - I started going gray at 19. I get my hair done every 5 weeks. My hair and nails grow really fast, probably because of all that protein I eat. :D My hair and my arms/shoulders are my vanities. I'm too young to be so gray.

Veronica

Ha, me too. I just gave up a few months ago and I'm *almost* 100% natural again. I'll be there after my next cut on Saturday. Shefly was one of my inspirations, actually. She looks so damn cute with her natural color!

I do have you beat in one way though. I had to color my hair every 3 weeks to keep the grey at bay! Dark brown natural hair and super white grey, all around the face, does not an easy color life make. :p I'm so glad to be done with it for good.

Aggie_Ama
07-24-2012, 09:01 AM
Lemme know when you're ready to come over to the Crayola Side.

-- gnat! (I got this!)

I want to do some soft purple peekabo highlights but my husband poopoo'd that. Probably best, my office would probably flip out.

SheFly
07-24-2012, 09:22 AM
Ha, me too. I just gave up a few months ago and I'm *almost* 100% natural again. I'll be there after my next cut on Saturday. Shefly was one of my inspirations, actually. She looks so damn cute with her natural color!

Aw, shucks ;). Pics! We need to see the new do!

SheFly

GLC1968
07-24-2012, 09:33 AM
Aw, shucks ;). Pics! We need to see the new do!

SheFly

It's all a tad bushy right now (and I have a swollen eye) so I'll take some on Saturday after my cut. It's about time I updated my facebook photo anyway. ;)

malkin
07-24-2012, 09:58 AM
We had a family fling with temporary purple highlights for everyone.

Temporary for the humans but permanant for parts of the bathroom!

lovelygamer
07-24-2012, 10:15 AM
I color my own hair at home and have for years. I use sally beauty supply professional products. It just takes a lot of reading the directions and a lot of trial and error. I have also been wearing pink or purple in my hair for almost two years now-permanent. My office hired me with it that way and are really cool about it. Good luck with your hair. I'm going from blonde to red this fall and am nervous.

laura*
07-24-2012, 10:55 AM
Lemme know when you're ready to come over to the Crayola Side.

Four years ago I tried bright pink hair at Burning Man. I think I must have done something wrong because the color kept washing out every time I washed my hair. By the end of the week is was mostly gone. From my hair that is - my T-shirts, pillows, and towel all had pink marks.

Is that the way it is supposed to work? Is there some sort of color fixer that I should have used? (The store only sold me the one bottle of pink goop.)

breeze
07-24-2012, 11:02 AM
Years ago, in an attempt to go auburn-colored with a demi-permanent color at home (from blonde with highlights) I accidentally ended up with Bozo-the-Clown orange hair with green streaks (the former highlights). It took weeks to wash out.

I don't color my own hair anymore. Lesson learned!

That said, I'm also a blonde-to brown gal. Grew up with almost white-blonde hair that has gradually darkened, and is naturally reddish-blonde with lighter highlights on the sides and top. I haven't been keeping up with salon coloring in the past few years but I'm thinking about a major cut/color soon. I'm waiting until I get to donation length this fall (Locks of Love- 10 inches) and then I'll probably chop and color.

I'm also thinking about treating myself to a pink streak when I finish my dissertation next year. We'll see. I've been wanting one for years!

lovelygamer
07-24-2012, 01:01 PM
Four years ago I tried bright pink hair at Burning Man. I think I must have done something wrong because the color kept washing out every time I washed my hair. By the end of the week is was mostly gone. From my hair that is - my T-shirts, pillows, and towel all had pink marks.

Is that the way it is supposed to work? Is there some sort of color fixer that I should have used? (The store only sold me the one bottle of pink goop.)


The "temporary" colors rub out like that. The semi-perm or perm don't. You can lock in crazy colors with a variety of things, including household white vinegar.

indysteel
07-24-2012, 01:38 PM
Years ago, in an attempt to go auburn-colored with a demi-permanent color at home (from blonde with highlights) I accidentally ended up with Bozo-the-Clown orange hair with green streaks (the former highlights). It took weeks to wash out.

I don't color my own hair anymore. Lesson learned!



Oh my gosh; I'm sorry to laugh at your expense, but the visual on this is darn funny. I'm glad it's behind you now though!

Jiffer
07-24-2012, 04:59 PM
I'm also thinking about treating myself to a pink streak when I finish my dissertation next year. We'll see. I've been wanting one for years!

For those of you pondering pink (or other interesting color) streaks, have you ever heard of dying your hear with Kool Aid?! My 14 year old daughter learned this from her friend and dyed the underneath layer in the back red and it lasts like forever! She just stuck in in a bowl of Kool Aid and wah lah! :eek: She did it about three or four months ago.

She will be needing a trip to the salon in the next month to un-Kool Aid her hair for the private school she's going to next year. They don't accept hoodlum Kool Aid kids! Haha!

Jiffer
07-24-2012, 05:07 PM
Just to clarify, dying my own hair is not a matter of know how. I've done it before when I was a dark auburn. But I do believe it was easier to do darker hair. It seemed I couldn't mess it up. (Sometimes I can't believe I actually went through that phase! It's the only time I haven't been blond in my whole life. Hmmmm. Maybe I should do it again!)

It might be harder with a lighter color, though, to touch up and do just the roots.

But my main question was what it would do to my currently treated highlights mostly.

I might just grab a box of temporary color, as suggested by a few, and see how that goes. Unless I misunderstood, I have less of a chance of having a strange color reaction?

I've often wondered how I'd like myself with my natural color, so I might even decide to do a temporary color to match my natural and see how I like it. Hmmmm. So far, at 43, I don't have any grey hairs to cover up. Maybe I'll be like my dad who didn't get a grey hair for many, many years. I get my blond thick locks from him, so crossing my fingers I get the non-grey hair gene as well.

Part of my consideration is just saving money. With two daughters now in private school, and my husband's business that has ups and downs, I'm currently in a really, really, really long phase of waiting to get my hair done because money is tight. If I dyed my own hair this would not be an issue.

My sister dyes her hair blonde and her natural is much darker than mine. I figure if she can do it, I can do it. Cause, you now, "Anything she can do I can do better, I can do anything better than her!!!!" :D (That's a song, in case some of you didn't catch that!)

Pedal Wench
07-24-2012, 05:09 PM
We had a family fling with temporary purple highlights for everyone.

Temporary for the humans but permanant for parts of the bathroom!

OMG - I had my hairdresser do a purple streak for me (kinda permanent) and I went on a trip immediately after. First shower in a hotel bathroom (on New Years Eve, no less) and it looked like an alien murder scene - there was purple splattered EVERYWHERE! Spent the next day buying bleach and cleaning supplies...

jessmarimba
07-24-2012, 06:40 PM
I always wanted to do this, but was afraid I couldn't pull it off. I love the blue (the pink wouldn't work so well on me). Maybe after I finish paying for my new water line.

http://www.haircolorsideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/blue-hair-fish-briad.png

(to give credit where it's due, that photo was originally stolen from a Free People photoshoot; I borrowed it from someone's blog)

Jiffer
07-24-2012, 09:44 PM
Okay, so apparently there is no such thing as semi-permament BLOND hair color. Went to three stores, suspected after the second and asked someone at the third. Only light browns and darker colors.

I came SO close to trying it, and then came SO close to grabbing a regular box of blond, but just couldn't do it.

Pretty sure I'm going to go to my hairdresser and have her do a solid blond (no highlights) and then possibly try to maintain it myself. That's my latest plan. It'll probably change tomorrow!

I was hoping to have something done before the trip I'm taking to Northern California for hubby's first Ironman this weekend. But that's not gonna happen.

Blueberry
07-25-2012, 07:36 AM
Okay, so apparently there is no such thing as semi-permament BLOND hair color. Went to three stores, suspected after the second and asked someone at the third. Only light browns and darker colors.


I suspect that's because bleach is involved in the lighter colors, and that's not really temporary. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

GLC1968
07-25-2012, 08:21 AM
I suspect that's because bleach is involved in the lighter colors, and that's not really temporary. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think that is probably true. Semi-perm colors just deposit color, so they'd only be able to go darker, not lighter. But I'm still kind of surprised there aren't dark blonde colors available though...for people who want to slightly darken light grey or light highlights. Maybe they are possible but no one bothers since places don't want to carry them? I can't imagine it would be a big market.

Veronica
07-25-2012, 08:25 AM
I was hoping to have something done before the trip I'm taking to Northern California for hubby's first Ironman this weekend. But that's not gonna happen.


Is he doing the Vineman? What's his race number? I'm doing Barb's Race - the Half. I'm 2137. As I recall your hubby is pretty fast on the bike so I may see him on the run.

Veronica

gnat23
07-25-2012, 08:58 AM
OMG - I had my hairdresser do a purple streak for me (kinda permanent) and I went on a trip immediately after. First shower in a hotel bathroom (on New Years Eve, no less) and it looked like an alien murder scene - there was purple splattered EVERYWHERE! Spent the next day buying bleach and cleaning supplies...

Yeah, those colors do stain, erm, everything. Years of apartment living got me pretty good at erasing all the evidence for security deposits.

- Have a dedicated towel and t-shirt for dying days. You might also want a travel towel and/or black pillowcase to take on trips to not mess up the nice million-thread-count snow-white hotel stuff.

- Before starting, put a layer of petroleum jelly around your hairline and ears for easier skin cleanup. Post-dye cleanup works for me with Dr. Bronners and a washcloth, tho I've heard good from cold cream as well.

- For the bathroom: Scrubbing Bubbles with bleach for the porcelain, Magic Erasers for the wall, and Windex for carpet (yeah, it happens)

- To keep the color fresh in your hair, squeeze a little bit (2T?) of the crayola dye into your hair conditioner bottle.

-- gnat! (pink for-evah) :p