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channlluv
03-11-2012, 06:59 PM
Hello, O Ladies of the Land. I'm writing a new book for young children about a season on a farm. I have my farmer planting corn. The dried corn kernels you plant, do you call those kernels or seeds? Or is it a regional thing?

Thanks!

Roxy

Marquise
03-12-2012, 04:17 PM
My father grew corn to feed his cows. It was referred to collectively as seed corn. I don't recall talk of kernels or seed but I think it would be okay to talk about kernels of seed corn. Hope that helps.

MomOnBike
03-13-2012, 08:04 AM
In my family, we always called the stuff we planted 'seeds.'

I would be fine with 'seeds' being what you plant, and 'kernels' being what you eat.

Pax
03-13-2012, 09:11 AM
Here in Illinois it's "seed". In case you want to write about soybeans at some point, you say "beans".

channlluv
03-13-2012, 10:11 AM
Brilliant. I like "seed corn." Do humans eat that kind of corn, too, or is it ranked thing where animals eat a certain grade, but humans eat a higher grade, and this grade is used for making gasoline, and that grade is used to make corn syrup for cooking? And then there's the whole genetically-modified bit, but that has nothing to do with the book I'm working on right now. This one is strictly for very young readers and it follows a season on a farm. The farmer plants the seed corn. The seed corn grows tall. Easy words, simple sentence structure.

I like the delineation between seeds being what you plant and kernels being what you eat. And it's interesting that beans are always just beans, even when they're seeds. Hmmm.

Lots to fertilize..ahem...my book ideas here. :)

Thank you, ladies!

Roxy

Marquise
03-13-2012, 04:38 PM
Brilliant. I like "seed corn." Do humans eat that kind of corn, too, or is it ranked thing where animals eat a certain grade, but humans eat a higher grade, and this grade is used for making gasoline, and that grade is used to make corn syrup for cooking?

Seed corn grows up to be field corn, which is fed to cows. Sweet corn is what humans eat. My father sometimes ate field corn harvested very young (and hence still tender) when sweet corn season started. He'd plant a couple of rows of sweet corn at the edge of the corn field closest to our house for easy picking.

No idea about corn for other uses. But corn fields are fascinating and scary for kids. Fun to run and disappear among the tall stalks but easy to feel lost and lots of sharp edges.

WindingRoad
03-13-2012, 04:48 PM
As an Indiana native, I've always heard seed corn if it's for feed. Its seeds if its for sweet corn, pop corn, sorgum or decorative corn.

channlluv
03-13-2012, 06:38 PM
I obviously need to get out in the country more often. I am visualizing a whole new book here, in addition to the one I'm working on. All the Cool Things About Corn. Maybe it could be a series: All the Cool Things About ___, and focus on the many uses of common things.

I really do love being part of this community. Thank you, friends, for sharing your corn stories.

Roxy

tulip
03-14-2012, 02:51 AM
Corn is fertilized by the wind. If you plant two varieties close together, you'll likely end up with funky corn. This can be a problem if you plant sweet corn near field corn--you probably won't end up with too much edible sweet corn.

bmccasland
03-14-2012, 06:56 AM
Tulip is right about cross-pollination - but I don't know how much seed is saved by farmers to replant like they used to. The way to beat the issue is that seed is saved from the center of a "pure" stand. So Marquise's father would get his sweet corn from a different field, or just buy the seeds for a few rows next to the house. I'm sure the cows and pigs appreciated a bit of sweetness in their corn.

Back when I was a kid living in France, my Mom had a housekeeper who was appalled that Mom was giving us corn-on-the-cob, as the only corn Madame knew was field corn. Mom tried to explain that no, it was sweet corn, not pig food. Mom grew up on a farm and knew the difference. Madame wasn't convinced and brought us a bunch of garden vegies the next week because if we were eating pig food, maybe we weren't doing as well financially as she thought - she got her wages, but the children eating pig food, perish the thought!

Biciclista
03-14-2012, 07:12 AM
gosh, with the way Monsanto acts about their 'rights' to the farmer's corn, you can't use the grown seed for replanting. Even if you did, all commercial corn seed is hybrid and the next generation doesn't produce as well.
There are still heirloom varieties that can be replanted.

channlluv
03-14-2012, 11:12 AM
Beth, that's a hoot.

Have any of you ever made a corn maze?

Does Monsanto really think they can bully all the farmers everywhere into using only their genetically-modified corn? I heard they, or a company like them, recently sued a smaller organic farm for copyright violation or something based on cross pollination of their adjacent fields.

Do you think our generation will go down as a monumental failure because we've made corporations into people?

Roxy

Trek420
03-14-2012, 11:24 AM
Does Monsanto really think they can bully all the farmers everywhere into using only their genetically-modified corn?

Yes they can and yes they do and yes they will :o

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082559/The-GM-genocide-Thousands-Indian-farmers-committing-suicide-using-genetically-modified-crops.html


Do you think our generation will go down as a monumental failure because we've made corporations into people?

My hope, work and prayer is our generation or maybe the next generation will be the one that takes back our food supply. Maybe led by a child inspired by your book?

withm
03-14-2012, 12:17 PM
Does Monsanto really think they can bully all the farmers everywhere into using only their genetically-modified corn?


I strongly urge you to read the book Food Inc., by Eric Schlosser or see the movie. You can rent it and watch instantly from Amazon for $2.99. It could very well be a life changing event for you.

Trek420
03-14-2012, 01:14 PM
I strongly urge you to read the book Food Inc., by Eric Schlosser or see the movie. You can rent it and watch instantly from Amazon for $2.99. It could very well be a life changing event for you.

ooh, ooh, ooh also read "The Omnivore's Dilemma"

http://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/

and distill all this down to children's book form. Good luck! ;)

Eat local! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LBICPEK6w

channlluv
03-14-2012, 07:28 PM
"His name was Colin..." - bahahahahaha! That is hysterical. There are some cafes in San Diego that approach that, but not really all that close. We're happy with "local" and "organic."

I found Food, Inc. on Netflix. I've added it to my queue. Thank you for the suggestion.

I'm meeting with four editors in early May at a writing retreat. I'll be bringing these book proposals to them. I'll keep you all posted. Thank you so much for the inspiration!

Roxy

missjean
03-15-2012, 04:13 AM
Back when I was a kid living in France, my Mom had a housekeeper who was appalled that Mom was giving us corn-on-the-cob, as the only corn Madame knew was field corn. Mom tried to explain that no, it was sweet corn, not pig food. Mom grew up on a farm and knew the difference.

lol! I was a kid living in Germany and my Mother's relatives (she is German) thought the same thing. She was raised on a farm and when she moved to the US, she thought corn was only for the cows & pigs - but she changed her mind when she tried sweet corn.

withm
03-15-2012, 07:11 AM
ooh, ooh, ooh also read "The Omnivore's Dilemma"

http://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/

and distill all this down to children's book form. Good luck! ;)

Eat local! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LBICPEK6w

I've read most of Pollan's work and a lot of Mark Bittman on the subject. As Pollan says, "Eat real food, mostly plants, not too much." If you can't pronounce it, just don't eat it. Of course I'm not perfect, but I do cook, have very little processed food in my house, and rarely eat meat. If I can make it, I'd rather not buy it.

Trek420
03-22-2012, 03:28 PM
From the mouths of babes ;) :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3THDuKtOE8&feature=player_embedded