Running with the reindeer...December runs! [Archive] - Women's Cycling Discussion Forums

VeganBikeChick

12-01-2011, 08:43 PM

Did my social 3 mile run tonight - all thanks to TE'ers for encouraging me to go!

The group was nice enough. I am a bit miffed that they advertised that it was a social running group for runners of every pace, but out of the 20 or so people there, I was definitely the only "slow" one, and save for one really nice girl that ran with me, everyone else was miles ahead.

I am thankful that I went, and super thankful that the girl ran with me. I felt bad for holding her up and bought her a beer as a thanks afterwards (it was a social run with drinks to follow) and she said she'd run with me whenever I'd like.

7rider

12-02-2011, 03:16 AM

That's great, VBC! Glad you did the run. I'm always the slow one in a group. I'd run with you if I were in your neck o' the woods.

This morning was 45 minutes on the treadmill. The treadmill is in a room with a drop ceiling and next to a block wall. Running, I could see a spider making his way up and down the wall, right next to my right shoulder. Blech. I hate spiders. But, as long as he was on the wall - live and let live. At mile 2.75, I see him suspended in mid-air, inches from my right cheek. YIKES! :eek: No way, critter. You invaded my space. I hit pause and jumped off the 'mill to grab a paper towel to squish him. I swear that guy knew my plan, because by the time I got back on the treadmill, he was back up, disappearing into a crack in the drop ceiling. And he never showed his face again for the remainder of my run. Good thing. I kept that paper towel handy...just in case.

kacie tri-ing

12-02-2011, 04:24 AM

Ack! Attack treadmill spider!

I haven't run yet since my race sunday. Guessing I will lace my shoes back up (after i wash them from running through the sewage river!).

Looking forward to moving again!

skhill

12-02-2011, 05:38 AM

Over the past couple months I've really slacked off my running, so my December resolution is to pick it up again.

Last night I added a lot of new music onto my mp3 player, and so this morning's run was on neighborhood streets with very little traffic with the earbuds in. (I only use the mp3 player if I'm not going to be interacting with traffic-- considering how bad my eyesight is in the pre-dawn dark, I need to be listening for cars in higher traffic areas). The last 30 min. of the Messiah, plus some Praetorious dance music carried me through 4 miles. Running to classical music worked better than I thought it might!

indysteel

12-02-2011, 05:48 AM

I ran 3 miles last night after. My evening runs rarely go as well as my morning runs. I'm likely just more tired, but I also usually run in the morning on an empty stomach, minus some coffee. Running in the evening with lunch still sloshing away in my stomach sometimes makes me feel a little sick, as it did last night. Plus, I just don't think I'm as relaxed running in the dark. I have a headlamp on and lots of reflective stuff, but I still feel more apprehensive. I ordered a new headlamp that I should be getting any day now that will work better than my current Black Diamond. That should help immensely.

Veronica

12-02-2011, 06:06 AM

I run best at 8:30 in the morning after a breakfast between 6 and 6:30 of cinnamon toast. Alas, Mon. - Fri. at 8:30 I'm checking in homework. :rolleyes:

Early morning runs my nose is stuffy and afternoon runs I often suffer from sloshy lunch like you. Makes me appreciate those weekends so much more.

Veronica

indysteel

12-02-2011, 01:34 PM

Wowza. Got my new headlamp today. It's a Black Diamond Sprinter. I may have unintentionally burned my retinas with it. It's pretty darn bright. Plus, it has a rear taillight. I'll have to test it out as soon as it gets dark. My other headlamp is a BD Spot. We bought it mostly for camping, but it just wasn't up to the task. I recently bought a reflective harness and some reflective leg bands. Anything else I might need for safe night running?

7rider

12-02-2011, 02:20 PM

Anything else I might need for safe night running?

A treadmill??? ;)

Sounds like you should be good to go. We can't find our headlamp anywhere, and I have no motivation to buy a new one now that we do have that treadmill. I do feel I need to get out for early runs in the cold to prep for the 5-miler, but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine temp wise (unless it's like 15 degrees for it).

emily_in_nc

12-02-2011, 02:25 PM

Did somewhere around 3.75 miles this morning on the beach. It was windy, overcast, and cool (that means 70F, as this is the tropics). I felt great! Probably one of the best runs I've had. DH told me what I needed to add on to take it to 4 miles, so I may try that on Monday if the cool air stays put. It had been so hot I was really suffering and was not able to increase my mileage much at all, but now that it's been cooler, I would like to get to 4 miles and hang there for awhile.

indysteel

12-02-2011, 02:37 PM

A treadmill??? ;)

Sounds like you should be good to go. We can't find our headlamp anywhere, and I have no motivation to buy a new one now that we do have that treadmill. I do feel I need to get out for early runs in the cold to prep for the 5-miler, but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine temp wise (unless it's like 15 degrees for it).

I just joined the rec center up the road from us and can use a treadmill there, but it's a last resort. I don't really enjoy it nearly as much as running outside. I am really sensitive to overheating, and I have yet to find a gym that is cool enough for my taste.

I have run in 15 degrees. I must be nuts because I don't really mind it (assuming the winds aren't too brutal).

yellow

12-02-2011, 03:55 PM

indy, I find I can go colder and colder as winter sets in and I get used to it. Last year I ran several times when it was in the 8 or 9 F range and I have definitely Nordic skied in colder. I find that if I wear a wool Buff over my mouth and nose that I don't get cold lung burn. I know there are masks out there that probably do a better job, but they seem claustrophobic to me when I've tried them on. Winter is my favorite time to run because it is cold (and because the trails are so heavenly to run on when they are snow covered).

[Edit: it's really dry where I live, so I realize that makes it easier than in some other places. Still, I think acclimation is the key.]

That BD headlamp is pretty popular around these parts with the night runners. If I didn't already have 2 Zipkas, I'd probably get one. Maybe when one of my Zipkas dies. :p

I'm in ramp-back mode still, but I've seemed to clock bigger weeks than I've planned. I need to make a concerted effort to back off yet still run with regularity. It's hard when the conditions are so very nice for running.

katluvr

12-03-2011, 06:02 AM

I did not get my mid week runs in, but heading out for my scheduled long run of 8 miles. Per the training program I am doing my LR pace should be 10:10 - 11 min miles (my HM goal is is 2 hours). I felt good, did not walk any and kept strong til the end. Overall pace was 10:32, that includes the first couple miles at closer to the 11 min mile pace. I felt good. Still can't imagine running 9 min miles for that long, but hopefully in 10 weeks I can!

We have our annual X-mas party tonight at our house. So I just had a good post-run breakfast and I'm off to the shower. I have house cleaning, decorating & food prep to do. I must work best under pressure!

Oh forgot to mention the weather was perfect for me. Just barely 60 and breezy, I even wore long sleeves. Didn't get too hot. Also in December the white pelicans migrate and drop in for a month or 2. We have lots of pelicans, but seeing white ones are rare. There was a flock of 8 swimming around in the bay at on section along my run, made my day!

K

skhill

12-03-2011, 06:24 AM

Today's 9 miles was my longest run since September! The last 2 miles were tough, but that was to be expected. Couldn't ask for better weather for early December-- clear and dry and not to much wind, and in the upper 30s for my whole run.

Indy, how does that headlamp do letting you see where you're putting your feet? I keep having to slow down because I can't see where I'm going, and maybe a headlamp would help?

indysteel

12-03-2011, 06:35 AM

Awesome long runs, gang! I did an hour long run today. I don't own a Gramin or any other device to track distance or speed. On the treadmill the other day, I ran at a 9:50 pace; that's the only metric I have at this point.

@skill, I haven't officially used the headlamp yet, but I did take it outside and it is plenty bright and has a long enough beam to light up the road in front of you. I think I'll be quite happy with it. It can be tilted up or down and can also be dimmed. I got a decent price for it and free shipping from Backcountry.com via Amazon.

Catrin

12-03-2011, 06:42 AM

indy... Winter is my favorite time to run because it is cold (and because the trails are so heavenly to run on when they are snow covered).

[Edit: it's really dry where I live, so I realize that makes it easier than in some other places. Still, I think acclimation is the key.]....

I think this is a very good point. While I don't run, I do strongly enjoy winter hiking and, oddly, as easily as I get cold I enjoy it most in bitter cold temperatures. There is something about being out on the trails when it is bitter cold (in the single digits), everything is covered in snow and all I can here is my steps in the crunchy snow, the occasional snow/branches falling from the trees and the occasional very hardy winter birds. Heavenly!

jessmarimba

12-03-2011, 09:45 AM

Snow run this morning! 24 degrees and at least 6 inches of snow on the ground, still snowing as we ran. We only did about 3 miles (and 3 miles was plenty) but it was a pretty fun run!

Then my car almost got stuck trying to get out of my parking spot on the side of the road...hah. I'm the only one in my running group without AWD and could only get traction going backwards, so it took some maneuvering!

Crankin

12-03-2011, 11:55 AM

I also enjoy running and hiking (in addition to x country skiing and snow shoeing) in the cold/snow. It's what makes winter bearable. In fact, I find I often get warmer exercising in colder weather.
Most of my sporadic running has been done in the late winter to late spring and resumed in the fall. One of the weird things about this year is that we have had warm weekends and I am still riding. Usually this time of year is kind of a shoulder season and I do a lot of hiking. I think I'm just getting more acclimated to riding in the cold, and doing the other sports have never bothered me in the cold.

OakLeaf

12-03-2011, 12:50 PM

It was a beautiful day today, which is good, because cold weather is really hard for me. I'm always freezing as it is, I'm starting to think I might have a touch of Raynaud's, and it's really hard for me to give up what little warmth I have to change into running clothes and go out in the cold.

I was a little bit bummed actually when they changed the weather forecast, because the bike club rides Saturdays and I've already packed my bike for travel. But it gave me the chance to get out for a nice 9 miles at a moderate pace. It felt really good, and I chose a route that's pretty open, so I never felt in danger from hunters (though I sure saw a lot of guys in orange).

I'm thinking I might train for the next marathon a little differently - focus on building volume right now, more speedwork later in the training cycle. We'll see. I still want to PR that 5K I always run at the end of January, so I'll be doing some speedwork between now and then, anyway.

7rider

12-04-2011, 04:14 PM

So, we started (at dawn! :eek:) with some mountainbiking at Rosaryville State Park. Seven of us did the ride - some on 'cross bikes, some on borrowed mtb's (including DH, who was on the LBS's phenomenal ti Seven Sola 29'er hard tail that he's loving but is so completely over the top - everything is, predictably, top-of-the-line...in fact, the headset cap has a slogan on it that reads "Light...Strong...Cheap...Pick Two" - that I resist him even considering buying it. A friend rode his Klein dualie for her first time ever off road. She did great, but climbed like a roadie (out of the saddle - spinning that back tire like mad). A bit under 9 miles of sweet singletrack.

But this thread is about running.

After DH and I got back home, I polished off the last of the Propel in my Camelback, ate a Zone Bar, dressed into knickers and a different top, and went out for a run. Still building miles in preparation for the Celtic Solstice 5-miler on the 17th. I thought it was the 18th, but I guess it's the 17th. :rolleyes: Anyway... 5.3 miles today in 1 hour flat. Better than I expected, relatively pain-free, and makes me happy that - assuming I stay injury free and healthy - I should be able to do okay on the 17th. Next weekend is my Chi Running clinic. Looking forward to that.

Oh...and after the run...I took my first ice bath! :eek: Got into my cheapie Target C9 shorts, kept a sweatshirt on, and a fleece cap, sat down in the tub and filled it up to just over my thighs with cold water. And then I dumped a bowl of ice cubes into it. Then 15 minutes of shivering while playing solitaire on my phone to kill the time. Brrrrr.... But, I've been told I should be doing this regularly, and the legs feel okay now. So....despite my husband's thinking I'm insane....it might be something to do regularly.

Crankin

12-05-2011, 03:37 AM

I ran for the first time in about 5-6 weeks. My foot is fine, and I am suspecting that it was not a stress fracture, as I have times when it hurts and I am doing nothing and times when it's fine when I am doing something with impact. Given my history of weird things, I am just being watchful now.
I ran very gingerly, 2.4 miles. Not sure how fast, but it was even slower than my usual slow, on purpose.

katluvr

12-05-2011, 03:53 AM

7 Rider,
This time of year the weather in Florida is great for running and I am always training for a HM. Although the weather is warm my pool is not! It is not like an ice bath (it is still pretty chilly) and I stand with my legs immersed up to my hips for 10 - 15 minutes. IF we are having really some "winter" weather I still do it, just warm up a cup of coffee and put a sweatshirt on. I think it has really helped over the past few years.

K

OakLeaf

12-05-2011, 04:00 AM

Actually what I've read recently is that inflammation and muscle building are connected. So I don't ice my muscles after a planned workout. If I've gone and really overdone something then I'll do the ice bath thing, and obviously if I have an injury I'll ice that, but otherwise I'm saving the ice baths for after races. OTOH I've read all this after my last marathon ... so we'll see when I start to ramp up the miles again. :cool:

IAE, I'd read that anything below 60°F decreases inflammation, which means most northerners could just run cold water without having to add ice.

I'm kicking myself for watching my Bengals getting their *sses kicked yesterday instead of going out. It's raining all day today so whatever I do, I'm going to keep it short.

7rider

12-05-2011, 04:44 AM

IAE, I'd read that anything below 60°F decreases inflammation, which means most northerners could just run cold water without having to add ice.

I've read - and been told - to save the ice baths for after "hard" workouts (or races). After a 41 mile bike ride Saturday, and a multi-sport Sunday, my legs were feeling it. The 5.3 miles was my longest run since August. I figured that constituted a "hard" workout for me (all things being relative, I guess).

I've also heard that the water should be "in the 50s". No idea what the cold water coming out of my tub's faucet is, but I've also heard that it probably would have been adequate without ice. No need to torture yourself, right? But...I had already emptied the ice maker into the bowl and brought it with me into the bathroom. So I figured "waste not...want not" - and dumped it in. :rolleyes:

limewave

12-05-2011, 11:14 AM

I, too, enjoy running in the cold. I don't know what it is, but I like it. Yesterday I ran in the pouring rain with a hard, cold wind from the north. Perfect running weather if you ask me!

6 miles for me yesterday. In the rain and cold.

katluvr

12-05-2011, 11:33 AM

More on the ice/cold baths after hard workout.
Not sure if my pool is cold enough or if I should do it after long runs, but it feels good and I think I am less sore the next day. I know I missed them this summer when I ran long because I did not have a cool pool to stand it (it was hot bath water by July) and I don't take the time to really to sit in a bath.

K

GLC1968

12-05-2011, 12:24 PM

I love the wonder that is an ice bath after a particularly hard workout! It's incredibly delicious when it's hot, your feet are aching and you get to stand in an icy mountain stream or lake after a tough hike. Pure awesomeness!

FWIW - I do feel like I get the same effect from wearing my Zoot Rx Recovery tights for a few hours post race. And they are easier to wear in the car than an ice bath would be. ;)

I finally got out to run this weekend after being down with a stomach bug last week. I did 4 miles on Saturday with my husband and then 6 on my own yesterday. My plan had me doing 12, but I didn't want to push it and with my HM being on Sunday, the longer miles weren't going to really do much for me anyway. I plan to run 3 after work today and then again on Wednesday and that's about it before the race.

The good news is that the last forecast I saw showed dry, sunny and a high of 45 for next Sunday (which means it'll be about 40 for the race itself). We'll see if that holds as we get closer though! :rolleyes:

indysteel

12-05-2011, 01:11 PM

I did 4 miles at the gym today. It's been raining to beat the band. I don't mind the cold, but I'd rather not run in a hard rain. So I settled for the treadmill. My boss and I had to go out of town today for a trial that the parties settled over the weekend. Grrr. The upshot is that I got home early and was able to make lentil soup for dinner, clean the kitchen, finish the laundry and get to the gym, all before 5 o'clock. Awesome!

emily_in_nc

12-05-2011, 01:20 PM

I had an icky run today. I was all set to up my mileage slightly to 4, but we had an unusually high tide this morning, so I had to run in soft sand and lots of sea grass rather than the usual packed sand, in a lot of places. It is really hard to run in soft sand, and I was slow as mud. So, I did 5K and called it done for today. Hopefully next run (Wed.) will be at low tide!

skhill

12-06-2011, 05:26 AM

It's raining here yet again, so today's run was on the treadmill at the Y. 5 miles in 45 minutes flat; I finally managed to put on 5 lbs, and it's helping my speed tremendously. A couple guys were looking at me strangely while I was on the treadmill, but c'mon, if you're listening to renaissance dance music on the mp3 player while running, you're going to be playing the air viola da gamba at times. :D

7rider

12-06-2011, 06:18 AM

45 minutes on the treadmill with my friend, Mr. Spider.

indysteel

12-06-2011, 06:42 AM

I realized yesterday that I do much better at staying motivated on the treadmill if I cover up the display with a towel. I'll otherwise just stare at the clock and count every second until I'm done.

limewave

12-06-2011, 08:09 AM

5 miles through the 'hood this morning between my first and second course of breakfast.

It feels good to be running regularly again.

katluvr

12-07-2011, 06:28 AM

4 mile tempo run today. Mid 2 miles were supposed to be at 9 min miles per the plan...I made it about 0.75 miles at a 9 min mile pace, then had to have a short recovery, then ran more like a 9:30 min mile pace, felt more comfortable. Overall with warm up & cool down completed my 4 miles in 40:30. That is my fastest 4 miles, I may need to look back at all my training logs but I really don't think I have run a 40 something 4 miler. I may have not executed the run exactly as I should of, but I did run a tempo run and a PR training run I do believe!

Tonight is the local Jingle Bell run. So it will be a very easy 5K with friends. We have a "cool" front moving in this afternoon. It was warm 70's for my run this AM, it is dropping at least 20 degrees, so may feel a bit Christmasy for the run after all!

K

emily_in_nc

12-07-2011, 12:31 PM

Upped my beach run to 4 miles today, double where I started (2 mi) back in September. Yes, my progress is slow, but I'm no spring chicken, so I figure I'll allow myself to move along at a snail's pace to avoid injury. So far, that has worked very well indeed. I felt downright good today! :D

indysteel

12-07-2011, 03:01 PM

Awesome Emily!

I did three hot treadmill miles. They were unremarkable but at least I got them done. I have finally gotten back to working out nearly everyday--something I am thrilled about. Tomorrow is a rest day though. I meet with a trainer on Fridays and I want to be fresh.

Selkie

12-07-2011, 11:32 PM

Everyone is doing great here!

Yesterday was my first run in the rain in years. Luckily, it wasn't pouring and it was in the high 50s. Managed to get in 3.5 miles--it really wasn't bad at all. I wanted to get out either yesterday or today. Since today is supposed to be significantly colder and windy, I didn't want to risk hitting an icy patch on the trail at work.

I had a gait analysis done last weekend & discovered that Brooks Ariel is way too much shoe for me. I've switched to Brooks Adrenaline GTS 12s and what a difference. :-)

This weekend is the Chi Running Workshop (Sat) and Jingle Bell 8K (Sun).

Bike Chick

12-08-2011, 03:15 AM

Ran 5 miles after work last night. It was an ugly run but I got it done.

I've been taking my running gear to work with me and running as soon as I get off so I can run in the last 30 minutes of daylight instead of driving home. It's turned cold here and the brisk, 30 degree air was invigorating.

7rider

12-08-2011, 05:49 AM

This weekend is the Chi Running Workshop (Sat) and Jingle Bell 8K (Sun).

Same here! :D
Are you doing the Rockville JB 8K with MCRRC?

Saw this article on a Chi Running workshop (http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/health/wellbeing/19636.html) and thought it was interesting.

Did my first Runerval DVD session (30 minutes of intervals) this morning. Found my treadmill was not as quick to respond as Coach Troy wanted. I had to anticipate when we went back into work mode (thanks to CT and his 5-second warning), so I could prep the 'mill with elevation and speed.

skhill

12-08-2011, 07:35 AM

Last night it felt like I had a cold coming on; this morning it had arrived. So no run, just a very brisk walk with my dog, in the cold. I've signed up for a Reindeer Ramble 5k this weekend, but with the predicted temperature (20F!!) and a cold, that might not be a good idea...

limewave

12-08-2011, 09:05 AM

Easy run last night with the kid, enjoyed the Christmas lights and light snowfall :)

800's on the track today. Bleh. At least they are done.

uk elephant

12-08-2011, 09:21 AM

I can finally join in this thread...I've gone and signed up for a half marathon in March. Aaack! Signed up on Tuesday which gives me just about 12 weeks to get ready. Got out for my first run in ages yesterday to kick start my training. Actually had a great run despite the cold strong winds. Actually found the wind and the sound of the crashing waves along the seafront really blew the cobwebs away. Did about 3 miles in 40 minutes and felt like I could have kept going. Not a great pace but it's a start.

VeganBikeChick

12-08-2011, 09:30 AM

That's great, UK! I signed up for my first half marathon in March, too, so we'll be training at the same time!

I haven't searched for a training plan yet, but it's on my to-do list. Good for you for getting out there :)

Selkie

12-08-2011, 11:33 AM

Same here! :D
Are you doing the Rockville JB 8K with MCRRC?

Saw this article on a Chi Running workshop (http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/health/wellbeing/19636.html) and thought it was interesting.

Did my first Runerval DVD session (30 minutes of intervals) this morning. Found my treadmill was not as quick to respond as Coach Troy wanted. I had to anticipate when we went back into work mode (thanks to CT and his 5-second warning), so I could prep the 'mill with elevation and speed.

DH and I will see you on Saturday. :) Looks like we'll be both inside and out, so let's hope it warms up a little.

We're doing the Jingle Bell run that starts at Freedom Plaza. Flat course, thank goodness. They give you bells as part of your race packet, so it should be a blast with all the participants jingling away! Sunday morning is going to be cold, so I hope they will have someplace warm for people to wait for the start. Looks like I caught that cold that's making the rounds but Mucinex DM is helping.

I did look at the Rockville race, but opted for the one in DC (a wee bit closer to home and I wanted a flat course after that hilly Turkey Trot).

DH treated me to the Trigger Point (tptherapy.com) kit for lower leg. Hopefully, this will help with my tight calves. The change in shoes is helping a lot.

OakLeaf

12-08-2011, 01:46 PM

The sun finally came out and I did a little over ten. Last time I'll get to run hills in a while. It was beautiful.

GLC1968

12-08-2011, 01:54 PM

and felt like I could have kept going.

That is exactly how you should feel after every training run if consistency is part of your plan! Good job!

Lots of good running here. Me, not so much. I've been slacking lately on the running but I'll be paying for it on Sunday. My half marathon is going to HURT. Eh - this is taper week, right? :rolleyes:

uk elephant

12-09-2011, 12:00 AM

VBC, a friend recommended this programme to me....I've lucked out and have a personalized programme put together by a friend who is a very accomplished runner. Roughly plan is one speed-work day, one easy run and one long run each week, interspersed with two swims and a yoga day. Plan officially starts on Monday, so this week is just a warm up.

http://www.halhigdon.com/halfmarathon/novice.htm

That's great, UK! I signed up for my first half marathon in March, too, so we'll be training at the same time!

I haven't searched for a training plan yet, but it's on my to-do list. Good for you for getting out there :)

katluvr

12-09-2011, 07:25 AM

So tomorrow is my birthday but I have to work do I did my birthday run today. According to the training plan I was set to run 10 miles with the mid 2 miles at race pace. So since I want do do close to a 2 hour half marathon I had to run about 9:10 for those 2 miles. I was pretty close to it the first mile, but had to take a walk break before the 2nd race pace mile that was more like 9:30. Overall it was a good run considering I started out VERY slow with heavy legs. I did allow myself to take it easy the 2nd half of my run and take walk breaks at each mile, my last mile I did pick up the pace again. Not bad for turning 48. I know many of you run faster and long and may have a few years on me....and I think you are all awesome and you keep me going! 3 years ago I was training to PR by running a 1/2 in 2:10, which I did. Then I had to run 10 min miles --that felt hard (and still not really easy for me), now I am having to hit 9 min miles (can't imagine running that for 13 miles!)...so I guess I am still pushing and improving (or at least trying to)!

Oh, and I stood in my nice cool pool after the run...boy did that feel good!
K

emily_in_nc

12-09-2011, 04:54 PM

katluvr -- Happy Birthday! And awesome run. I think you're doing amazing!

I did just a pinch over 4 miles today on the beach. Nice overcast, breezy morning, 70-72 degrees. I felt really quite good, and as I got to my turnaround point from just a couple of months ago still feeling great (and going farther), I reflected on how much easier it really has become. Yes, running is still hard, harder than cycling for sure, but I've improved so much since September. Looking forward to even more improvement in the new year! :D

indysteel

12-09-2011, 05:16 PM

Happy birthday, katluvr!!!!!

Crankin

12-10-2011, 03:49 AM

skhill

12-10-2011, 04:18 AM

Happy Birthday, katluvr!!

uk elephant

12-10-2011, 07:04 AM

Happy birthday katluvr!

I got out for another run this morning. Same time and distance as on Wednesday, but considering the rolling terraing, sheep poo to dodge and having to stop to go through 5 gates along the way I must have run quicker. All in all a good warm up for the real half marathon training which starts on Monday night.

emily_in_nc

12-10-2011, 09:18 AM

Sigh... everyone seems to progress with their running, except me.
I ran on Monday for the first time in 5-6 weeks, because of diffuse pain in my foot. I was fine on the run and for the whole day, next morning, until I went to the gym. Some of the stuff in my strength and core class is hurting the foot more than running. I modify everything, don't do full jump ups or jumping jacks, and it set the foot right back where it was. Since I really need the stuff in this class more than I need to run (I do plenty of aerobic stuff), guess which has to go.
I guess it might be time to visit the podiatrist, but even if this is a real stress fracture, there's nothing I can do about it. I can't stop walking, and I've already modified the shoes I wear. Yesterday I went for a 4 mile hike and the climbing part was a bit painful on the foot.

Bummer, sorry Crankin! Sorry about the foot pain. Since you get plenty of cardio otherwise, there's no reason to push yourself to run if it hurts. I wouldn't. I also know that if I lived in a hilly, cold area like you do, I wouldn't have progressed in my running the way I have managed to here in Belize these past few months. Running on packed sand trails with only the slightest rolling undulations, in temperate weather, is a far cry from running hills with multiple layers on, both physically and mentally. If I lived where you do, I'd probably stick to hiking, which I also love. Hiking is non-existent here (on the island, there is some on the mainland), so I've had to adjust to my environment.

Hope you heal up quickly!

Crankin

12-10-2011, 12:52 PM

I'm definitely done, or at least giving it a rest until spring. It's been so warm on the weekends, I haven't done much hiking, as I am still cycling outside. And, I do not want this to interfere with my x country skiing or snow shoeing. The way it feels today, my heavy hiking boots and snow shoes would definitely not feel so good. But riding was fine. I am wondering if using SPD cleats in spin class is making it worse. It seems to flare up a bit after spin. I have Speedplay Xs and Frogs on my bikes, and those don't bother it at all.
I don't mind running in cold weather at all. But once the roads get icy, I don't do much of it outside, as there are very few sidewalks here. Hence, most of the running I do is in the late fall and early spring.

OakLeaf

12-10-2011, 07:43 PM

Aw, bummer Crankin. Enjoy your hiking and heal quick.

Happy birthday kat!

I took one look at the thermometer this morning and blew it off, even though I probably won't get another chance to run until Monday. Seventeen degrees is just too cold for me, especially since my warm gloves are already in transit. I've had frostbite four times and that's plenty for me. Wish I could've got some kind of a workout in, though.

Bike Chick

12-11-2011, 04:32 AM

Happy late birthday, Katluvr!

I'm sorry to hear you are struggling so, Crankin. That sucks so bad.

Oak, I can't blame you. It was 28 here yesterday when I got out and ran my 7 miles. It was brisk but the sun was shining and it was a beautiful day. I have to think twice about anything below 20 degrees.

indysteel

12-11-2011, 04:50 AM

It was 21 degrees for my run yesterday. Minus the first few minutes, I felt okay. The winds were light though and the sun was out. My left glute and hamstring have been bugging me for several weeks now. At first I thought it was the return of the sciatic nerve issues I have had off and on for some time, but now I'm not so sure. I suppose a trip to the doc is in order as it's becoming chronic.

Crankin, I'm sorry you're hurting. I had a stress fracture in my foot during my sophomore year of cross country. I ran most of the season with it and ended up on crutches for six weeks.

Crankin

12-11-2011, 05:44 AM

I need to stop reading this thread! This is what makes me want to "try" running again.

Selkie

12-11-2011, 09:05 AM

Happy Belated B'day, Kat.

Sorry about your foot, Crankin. Hope it heals quickly and doesn't impact your winter sports.

ChiRunning workshop was yesterday---it was great. I got to meet 7, which was a treat (I'm would love to have her swimmer's feet!!!). By the way, she's got great running form and was moving pretty swiftly when we were outside.

Today was our Jingle All The Way 8k race in DC. Unfortunately, my cold pretty much has me operating on 75% of my "jets," so I didn't feel that great. It was the first morning of the season that went below freezing at Reagan Nat'l, so it was cold. Insult to injury, the race started 20+ minutes late---everyone was freezing. Once we got moving, it was fine. I had five jingle bells on, several pinned to my fleece and one on my shoe. Lots of folks in the spirit, wearing reindeer headgear, santa hats, green sequin skirts, striped socks, etc. As usual, I overdressed and once we got in the sun, I was too warm.

Luckily, things opened up a little after the first mile in terms of being crowded, so I had room to work on the chirunning techniques I learned yesterday. Was in the groove of it for a bit, but my cold symptoms definitely impacted how I felt overall. I wrapped a buff around my forearm to help clean up my nose drainage, which was good planning. ;) The last quarter mile or so, the accumulated junk in my throat/bronchial tubes made me gasping for a breath and sounding like as asthmatic. I was relieved to cross that finish line (they called out everyone's name over the loudspeaker as you finished).

My husband was about 3 or 4 minutes behind me, so I had time to stretch my calves and get cold before we schlepped it off to the car. Got to see the Nat'l Christmas tree on the way, plus the White House all decked out.

I'll check my time/finish results later. This is my longest run to date and because of my cold, I was just happy to run the entire thing and cross the finish line.

7rider

12-11-2011, 01:12 PM

ChiRunning workshop was yesterday---it was great. I got to meet 7, which was a treat (I'm would love to have her swimmer's feet!!!). By the way, she's got great running form and was moving pretty swiftly when we were outside.

Ha! If you had to buy shoes for my "swimmer's feet" you wouldn't want them so much! :D Was great to meet you - even tho' we didn't have much time for socializing.

I took my ChiRunning and tried to incorporate some of it into today's Jingle Bell Jog 8k (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/134019321). Spent a lot of time working on my two "L's" of what our instructor referred to as "ALLT" for "Align, Level (your pelvis), Lift (the crown of your head), and Tilt". Happy with negative splits -- first time I've done that...ever and an 11:14 pace for 4.97 miles total. I also ran my whole thing. Happy with that, too. So, overall, a really good morning run. Glad you had one, too, Selkie.

OakLeaf

12-11-2011, 01:45 PM

Nice job Selkie and 7rider!

I got in earlier than expected, did a little unpacking and some perfunctory dusting and announced I was going for a run. I decided to just play it by ear, since it's 40° warmer and about 1000% more humid than the last time and place I ran. But I felt reasonably good and wound up doing a little over 11 at a 9:30 pace. The last five or so were in a pouring rain. I saw four gopher tortoises on one block who'd come out of their burrows to drink. I'd never seen that before and it was really cool, but I had to wonder about what was in the runoff water. Well, I got to find out about a mile from home when a pickup truck roosted me. Welcome to Florida. :rolleyes: Naturally, as soon as that happened the rain let up, so I got to run the last mile covered with motor oil and dogsh*t and who knows what else. I remembered the one good thing about having the laundry room in the garage ... strip off the wet clothes and walk into the house nekkid. :D

GLC1968

12-11-2011, 08:25 PM

Happy Belated Birthday, katluvr!

Sorry about your foot, Crankin. I had foot trouble for many years and basically gave up running. It's actually why I ended up buying a road bike!

Great job on the clinic and the 8K, Selkie and 7rider!

Today was supposed to be my second half-marathon. Unfortunately, I was up most of the night between a barking puppy and a super upset stomach (I actually threw up at one point). When I took the puppy out again at 5 am, it was raining and cold, I was miserable, nauseated and had a headache, so since I was doing this run alone (meaning no one was counting on me), I blew it off. :o

I did manage to run 6 miles later this afternoon after my stomach started to settle. It was almost a mistake as last nights issue had moved into the intestines... Oy! It's probably a good thing that I didn't do the half...it would not have been a fun time at all. It's a bummer to train for something and then not really get 'closure' but I know it would have been a terrible experience had I tried.

My next race isn't until March (15k Shamrock Run), so I've got time to focus on my chi form and getting some weight training in. My plan is to maintain at least 15 miles per week until it's time to ramp up volume again.

Selkie

12-11-2011, 11:51 PM

Great job, 7.

Poor GLC! Thank goodness you didn't try to run the half! Hope you are feeling better today (just in time for work, eh).

My race results:

Total time: 45:21
Pace: 9:08
Age Group (45-49): 39th out of 204
Overall Place (females): 725 out of 3,024

limewave

12-12-2011, 07:52 AM

8 miles for me yesterday. I felt pretty good but I didn't have a watch or garmin so I have no idea what my pace was.

skhill

12-12-2011, 08:22 AM

As it was 20F and I was dealing with a bad cold, I skipped Saturday's 5k. Racing in that temp. would have been tough enough! (And standing at the start line waiting to go would have been miserable).

Today I finally got out for a run, first time since last Wednesday. Nothing much, just 3.5 miles, with a big cough break. But it felt good to be running again!

emily_in_nc

12-12-2011, 04:26 PM

Did my 4+ mile beach run again. Conditions were perfect -- overcast, very light breeze, 70 degrees. I have no idea of my pace, though, as I never time myself. If conditions are similar for my next run (Wed. am), I may try for 4.5 miles.

limewave

12-13-2011, 05:54 AM

I need to go run. 2 x 1600's at a 7:30 pace. With my running lately, I have no delusions that I'll make it. Just hoping I can run under 8 min miles . . .

Veronica

12-13-2011, 06:21 AM

Do the best that you can. That's all you can ask of yourself.

Veronica

skhill

12-13-2011, 06:34 AM

It's amazing how warm 40F feels after all those mornings in the 20s. I definitely over-dressed for the conditions. It got to the point that I was trying to remember if the sports bra I was wearing was suitable for stripping off my undershirt. (It wasn't, btw). 5.5 miles; started out too fast and was feeling the effects of that and my lingering cold by the end.

limewave

12-13-2011, 09:25 AM

Do the best that you can. That's all you can ask of yourself.

Veronica

Thanks coach! Surprised myself with 7:19's (surprisingly consistent!). I added an extra 2 x 800's. My pace slowed a pitch to 7:25s.

katluvr

12-13-2011, 05:33 PM

Wow Lime, awesome. I just need to try and run 9 or sub 9.

This AM just 3 easy miles...should of done some type of speed work, but didn't have the gusto! So I just ran. It was better than nothing as I had many other commitments today. Tomorrow will be about 5 -ish, tempo, progression or something.

K

emily_in_nc

12-14-2011, 09:43 AM

Cruddy run today. Started pouring just a bit after I headed out, so I turned around and hung out on our veranda until the rain passed (it comes and goes quickly here!) I guess the blood pooled in my legs b/c when I finally got going, they felt like lead. Strong headwind didn't help, and I got hit by a falling palm frond. Didn't really hurt, but startled me!

The way back was better since the wind was behind me, but then I started getting hungry (my pre-run snack was just too early since my run got delayed with the rain) and still didn't have my usual energy. Did get accompanied by a friendly red dog on part of the way back, which boosted my spirits.

I cut it short at 3.25 pokey miles. Next run will be better, I'm sure.

indysteel

12-14-2011, 09:50 AM

I had a decent 3-mile run on the treadmill last night. Slowly but surely, I'm increasing my speed. My left glute (where it meets the hamstring) is still bothering me though and has been since Thanksgiving. It's not so bad during runs, but I'm in a fair amount of pain afterwards. I made an appointment with my sports medicine doc for tomorrow. I saw him and a PT last year when my right hip was bothering me with good success. This feels more like an overuse issue to me though, so I'm bracing myself for the inevitable "you need to rest" instruction. Grrr. It seems like everytime I get into a good groove, some medical issue intervenes. Wish me luck....

Bike Chick

12-14-2011, 03:21 PM

This feels more like an overuse issue to me though, so I'm bracing myself for the inevitable "you need to rest" instruction. Grrr. It seems like everytime I get into a good groove, some medical issue intervenes. Wish me luck....

Good luck tomorrow Indy. I understand completely. I got an ugly 6 mile run in today and my legs just ache. I haven't had a decent run in a couple of weeks and am so ready to get this marathon over with. My second 20 mile run is this weekend and I guess I will hobble through it. I have an appointment tomorrow with my doc as well just to be sure my pain is from sore legs and not something that will be debilitating later if I push through it.

Catrin

12-14-2011, 03:25 PM

.... I saw him and a PT last year when my right hip was bothering me with good success. This feels more like an overuse issue to me though, so I'm bracing myself for the inevitable "you need to rest" instruction. Grrr. It seems like everytime I get into a good groove, some medical issue intervenes. Wish me luck....

Ugh, I hope you find out that it is something else other than an over-use injury. Sending you many wishes of good luck and hope you learn it is something that won't require much time from activities!

indysteel

12-14-2011, 04:13 PM

Thanks, gang!

@Bike Chick: do your legs feel sore in an injury sort of way or from inadequate rest? When I was riding 5k miles a year, my legs would sometimes feel chronically heavy and tired. That's when o knew I was just momentarily overtrained. I hope that's all you are dealing with, although even that would be a bummer with a marathon around the corner. Good luck with your 20 miler. I can only dream of such distances at this point. If I can get past this current issue, I might consider actually setting a half marathon goal for next year, but my primarily goal is much more modest. I just want to stick with something long enough to get back in better shape.

@Limewave: you are fast, girl. I was reading some older race/running threads a while back. Some were from you when you first started competing. You have gotten so much faster over the years. It's impressive.

GLC1968

12-15-2011, 08:00 AM

5K on the treadmill last night. I managed to run about a half mile at 7.5 mph (8 m/m) pace without too much trouble except for cardiovascularly. That's a new one for me, so I think I'm going to throw more faster paced stuff in every once in awhile.

indysteel

12-15-2011, 09:12 AM

Selkie

12-15-2011, 09:38 AM

Looks like I have a bit of tendonitis in my hamstring. I have an order to see my old PT, who did a bang up job of getting my right hip in order last year. Hopefully, I'll be good to go soon. The doc didn't tell me to stop running altogether unless it continues to get worse. I'm not supposed to increase speed or volume though. My first PT appointment is Tuesday, so I'm reserving judgment on that until the PT gives me a once over. He's kind of anti-running as it is, so we'll see.

Ask the PT if it could be your piriformis.

Despite the bad cold, I was able to slog out planned 3.5 milers on Monday and Wednesday. Took it easy both by design and necessity. Yesterday, I saw an eagle, perched on a rail above a ramp on the MUT where I run. It was amazing. Two weeks ago, we saw this eagle or one of his pals pluck a squirrel from the ground and carry it away. Very sad for the poor squirrel. :(

indysteel

12-15-2011, 10:11 AM

Ask the PT if it could be your piriformis.

Despite the bad cold, I was able to slog out planned 3.5 milers on Monday and Wednesday. Took it easy both by design and necessity. Yesterday, I saw an eagle, perched on a rail above a ramp on the MUT where I run. It was amazing. Two weeks ago, we saw this eagle or one of his pals pluck a squirrel from the ground and carry it away. Very sad for the poor squirrel. :(

I've had piriformis issues before from cycling and this feels pretty different from that. Plus, none of the common stretches that help alleviate piriformis syndrome have helped at all. That said, I'm sure the PT will give me a very thorough going over.

OakLeaf

12-15-2011, 10:25 AM

indysteel

12-15-2011, 10:42 AM

I had issues with an obturator a couple of years ago. That's way up in the butt crease, too. I never did figure out what brought it on, but considering the problems I've had since then and the yoga poses that resolved it, my guess is it was coming from a lumbar disc.

Whatever it turns out to be, hope you get it sorted quick. You too, Bike Chick - any chance it's just the mystery aches and pains people get during a taper? I've had those every time...

I did a quick 7.7 with two bridges this morning. I got caught just as the drawbridge came up, which was annoying at first, but while I was waiting I saw a bunch of dolphins and got a call from my mom, all before the bridge came back down. :)

I tend to think what's going on is related to SI joint dysfunction that is, in turn, making me overwork my hamstrings which is, in turn, leading to some tendonitis. But that's a very amateur assessment based on my past hip/glute issues. I'm not overly skilled, but my web-based research keeps coming back to SI joint dysfunction and ischial tuberosity pain syndrome.

Selkie

12-15-2011, 11:42 AM

I've had piriformis issues before from cycling and this feels pretty different from that. Plus, none of the common stretches that help alleviate piriformis syndrome have helped at all. That said, I'm sure the PT will give me a very thorough going over.

That's good news! Piriformis syndrome is awful.

Hope you heal quickly.

Catrin

12-15-2011, 11:43 AM

indysteel

12-15-2011, 11:59 AM

Thanks! Frankly, I can handle quite a bit of pain when I'm actually exercising (not that I recommend continuing to exercise when injured). Heck, my hot foot hurts so bad on the bike sometimes that I can barely breathe. Somehow I get through it. What gets me is the pain I'm in when I'm sitting at my desk chair or driving. This current round is about to drive me insane because the throbbing just. will. not. stop.

Bike Chick

12-16-2011, 03:59 AM

Looks like I have a bit of tendonitis in my hamstring. I have an order to see my old PT, who did a bang up job of getting my right hip in order last year. Hopefully, I'll be good to go soon. The doc didn't tell me to stop running altogether unless it continues to get worse. I'm not supposed to increase speed or volume though. My first PT appointment is Tuesday, so I'm reserving judgment on that until the PT gives me a once over. He's kind of anti-running as it is, so we'll see.

I hate to hear that Indy but I'm glad you have a diagnosis and can start treatment. Looks like we will be going to PT together. The doc says my issue is a combination of ITB and piriformis syndrome. I go to the PT this afternoon. I can't wait to see what he says. Doc says he can get me healed up for the marathon but no 20 mile run tomorrow:( His advise is better to go into the race undertrained than do the 20 miles and not be able to race at all.

Oak, funny you say that about the yoga. That's one thing that seems to help.

indysteel

12-16-2011, 05:56 AM

I hate to hear that Indy but I'm glad you have a diagnosis and can start treatment. Looks like we will be going to PT together. The doc says my issue is a combination of ITB and piriformis syndrome. I go to the PT this afternoon. I can't wait to see what he says. Doc says he can get me healed up for the marathon but no 20 mile run tomorrow:( His advise is better to go into the race undertrained than do the 20 miles and not be able to race at all.

Oak, funny you say that about the yoga. That's one thing that seems to help.

What a drag! I've had ITB and piriformis issues from riding, but not running. Thankfully, the ITB issues resolved themselves when I went from a triple crank to a double. And the piriformis issues got lots better just from some basic stretches before, during and after rides. I sure hope your PT can get you sorted out in short order.

skhill

12-16-2011, 06:01 AM

Got to a yoga class last night for the first time in a couple weeks (December can be crazy), and I was shocked to find how stiff and tight I was. But the class really helped-- everything felt so much free-er on this morning's run. I felt so good that I added on an extra mile.

VeganBikeChick

12-16-2011, 01:03 PM

Ugh, I've really fallen off the running bandwagon this week. Started dating a new guy and running has been put on the back shelf. I know from experience the more I slack the harder it is to restart, so back to the treadmill today. I don't think playing Wii tennis tonight with him is going to burn as many calories as a good session on the treadmill will :rolleyes:

emily_in_nc

12-16-2011, 06:37 PM

Did my 4+ mile run this morning. Felt pretty good -- not great, but much better than Wednesday's run.

Wahine

12-16-2011, 09:33 PM

I did a 3.5 mile trail run in the dark with a head lamp. It was fun. And frosty.

Bike Chick

12-17-2011, 03:15 AM

Well I had my appointment with the PT yesterday. He thinks that it's bursitis or tendonitis of the hip, IT band syndrome or (worst case scenario) a tear or impingement of the labrum. I didn't take any of it very well, especially the worst case scenario part, but he tells me if it's not my labrum, he will get me through the Disney marathon in 3 weeks. If it is the labrum, I may never run a marathon---ever. Yesterday wasn't a good day.

Today was supposed to be my second 20 mile run but I've been told no running or riding. I never thought I would miss my long runs so much but I really look forward to them, even with the pain.

yellow

12-17-2011, 04:08 AM

If it is the labrum, I may never run a marathon---ever.
FWIW, I have a torn labrum with pincer impingement and a retroverted hip. I'm still running pretty long distances. I might eventually have to give it up, but am managing. Once I got the initial inflammation mellowed out, it became more tolerable. It can really hurt sometimes, but now I know what to do to bring it back down to earth.

I was offered surgery but politely refused. I know a couple of other very talented runners who also have a torn labrum; there are a lot of people out there walking around with soft tissue damage to the labrum. So if that is the problem, know that it can be workable. If it were me and that was the diagnosis (torn labrum and FAI and no running long distances, possibly ever), I'd get another opinion.

All that said, hopefully it is something minor that you can tackle in the next few weeks before your marathon!

Selkie

12-17-2011, 04:16 AM

Oh BikeChick...sorry to hear this. Take Yellow's advice to heart, you never know. Get another opinion.

Two weeks before I was set to do my 2nd Marine Corp Marathon, piriformis syndrome hit me hard. In addition to missing the marathon, I ended up giving up running for more than 10 years.

Sending you lots of good healing vibes/wishes.

indysteel

12-17-2011, 05:42 AM

((((Bikechick)))). I really hope that it is not the worst case scenario and that if it is, you are able to keep running. Hang in there.

OakLeaf

12-17-2011, 08:52 AM

Oh, man (((((BikeChick))))). Will you be having an MRI - or how will the PT narrow down the diagnosis? Hoping for the best.

I did a little 5K this morning that started five blocks from my front door. I couldn't even justify not running, being that close! It was fun, and I got to chat with a few people I hadn't seen yet since I've been back. It was a benefit for the high school arts program, and the awards were tiles hand-painted by the students. I won a cool one. :)

emily_in_nc

12-17-2011, 08:55 AM

It was a benefit for the high school arts program, and the awards were tiles hand-painted by the students. I won a cool one. :)

What a neat prize! I'd love that!

Bike Chick

12-17-2011, 01:09 PM

FWIW, I have a torn labrum with pincer impingement and a retroverted hip. I'm still running pretty long distances. I might eventually have to give it up, but am managing. Once I got the initial inflammation mellowed out, it became more tolerable. It can really hurt sometimes, but now I know what to do to bring it back down to earth.

I was offered surgery but politely refused. I know a couple of other very talented runners who also have a torn labrum; there are a lot of people out there walking around with soft tissue damage to the labrum. So if that is the problem, know that it can be workable. If it were me and that was the diagnosis (torn labrum and FAI and no running long distances, possibly ever), I'd get another opinion.

All that said, hopefully it is something minor that you can tackle in the next few weeks before your marathon!

Oh, Yellow, this is so promising. Thank you for your input. It means a lot to hear this. I'm staying positive and thinking that it's not worst case scenario and will see how Monday's session goes. I may just go to my doc on Monday and ask if I can have the MRI just to rule it out. Then if it's not, I'm running on it and doing the marathon regardless. When I met the PT yesterday for my initial consult his first statement to me was, "so you are trying to run a marathon in 3 weeks." My response was, "No, I AM running a marathon in 3 weeks and you are going to help me accomplish that." I didn't mean to be so stubborn but I wanted him to know how determined I was.

7rider

12-17-2011, 05:32 PM

Oh, that's a bummer, BikeChick. I hope the PT gets you right. I was just reading about torn hip labrums (labri?) and hip arthroscopy. I was talking to a woman last night who was right hooked while on her bike and tore her hip labrum in the crash. She is only now starting to run again (something like 8 months I think?) but can't ride a bike. Every one is different, I guess. Good luck.

HillSlugger and I (and nearly 3,000 others) did the Celtic Solstice 5-mile run today in Baltimore, MD. I took 2 minutes off my chip time vs. last year's run, so I was pretty happy. 52:36 was my time, or 10:29 pace. That's pretty good for me. Next year, I hope to break 50 minutes.

Here we are at the start, wearing our ugly Christmas vests (and me with a jingle bell) for the occasion. (me on the left) I got a TON of comments on the vest!

Selkie

12-18-2011, 02:55 AM

Bike Chick

12-18-2011, 03:56 AM

Do you have any races on your schedule for early 2012? I am hoping to do a 10K in the first quarter.

Disney Marathon, January 8; Fly with the Eagles Half Marathon, February 11; Memphis in May Olympic triathlon, May 20 and MAYBE the Cutting Edge Half Classic Half Ironman in June. Maybe. It's my goal and I'm starting the training for it next week if the PT lets me run.

katluvr

12-18-2011, 07:15 AM

So I skipped my long run yesterday. Was tired and just wanted to have a morning that I did not have to jump start my day and get busy early. Plus my folks came for a visit for the weekend and I had to get my house in order (clean) before they arrived. But I felt like a slacker.
Did go out this AM for a slow and easy 4 miler. Bit "cool" for Florida this AM with a strong north wind. But felt good. Need to get back to speed work this week and long mid week before the holiday weekend.

K

Wahine

12-18-2011, 07:39 AM

Bike Chick,

At your next PT appointment, ask your PT specifically what tests he or she can do to get a clearer picture of what the diagnosis is. It is quite possible to get a reasonably good impression of a IT Band syndrome (bursitis is usually secondary to this) vs a labral tear. If he/she can't give you an answer, or gives you some sort of vague answer that isn't really an answer at all... you may want another opinion.

Go get a really good deep tissue massage and have the massage therapist work a lot on your Glute max, glute medius, glute minimus and TFL. You may also be tight through your low back area (most likely L4-5) and some work there will also help.

Get on a foam roller and work your hips out as much as you can.
Foam roller techniques for the hip (http://youtu.be/Dm33bQEF0co).
The thigh (http://youtu.be/Own6J_n8JAw).

And stretching is key. This (http://youtu.be/_ur0Yn53J-A) is a reasonable routine for stretching the hip/IT band complex.

If you get on these things now and you respond well, you can be ready to run your marathon in January.

It would also be very helpful to do a running form analysis with a qualified PT. That should be done after your marathon and recovery period. You shouldn't try to change your running form drastically right now.

Finally, even if you do have a labral tear, it is quite possible to continue running. I have a labral tear too and like Yellow, I still run distance. I also work with people following arthroscopic repairs to the hip and I have seen many do very well and go back to running.

7rider

12-18-2011, 09:15 AM

Took part in a trail race from the other side today. I was a course marshal - one of those who stands at an intersection wearing a yellow vest and waving a flag telling folks to turn (or to be careful on the slippery bridge as I did). The running club I ran with last week had a 8k trail run this a.m. Since im in no shape to do back-to-back 5-mile rubs (although I did see one jersey from yesterday's run), I volunteered to just help with this one.

After sweating from running back and forth between my two locations, I cooled down and was downright chilled by the time my mountain biker sweep showed up, trailing the last runner (a 5-y.o., and her parents). I was happy to help, but more happy to see my duty done. Runners arrived, ran, ate, and left in the time I was out on course. My back was killing me from standing in the cold so long. So, yes, although I always did before, I am now much more likely to thank the volunteers at the events I do! They work hard so we can have our fun!

skhill

12-19-2011, 05:42 AM

Found a great way to have a fast final mile-- a full bladder. Had an extra cup of coffee before heading out, and it sure had an effect. 5 miles total, with the last in about 8:10, despite it being mostly uphill.

limewave

12-19-2011, 08:36 AM

I was supposed to run 7 yesterday but it didn't work out. I felt horrible all day. I had a short window between church and family Christmas gathering to get my run in. All I wanted to do was take a nap but I thought I would feel better if I ran instead.

I was wrong. I should have napped. I managed about 2 miles and then could not take one more step. I walked home slowly. It was a miserable day. Tired. Dehydrated. Too much sugar. Blech.

GLC1968

12-19-2011, 10:17 AM

Just getting caught up here!

Bike Chick - I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis, but I hope both Yellow and Wahine are right and that you'll continue to be able to run. Hang in there!

I managed 5 miles yesterday. It was a very good run and I felt strong. After the first two miles with my H, I moved into my own pace and found I was comfortably running a 10 m/m which is significantly faster than I was running just six months ago. I pushed it to a 9 m/m for the last mile without much increase in effort.

Unfortunately, I had to eat, grocery shop and then take care of our puppy in my sweaty running clothes. Then there was a nasty accident on the intersection outside our house, so I ended up out there, trying to help pry open a car door and holding flashlights for the EMT while shivering something fierce. It took me forEVER to warm up once I got into a hot shower! I think I am still chilled 15 hours later! :eek:

emily_in_nc

12-19-2011, 06:01 PM

Conditions were perfect, and I felt great this morning, so I upped my beach run by .5 miles to 4.6. Longest run in two years, and was way easier than when I did it back then too.

Course, the lack of hills DOES help. But the humidity detracts, so maybe it all evens out? :cool:

Bike Chick

12-20-2011, 03:36 AM

indysteel

12-20-2011, 08:08 AM

Just saw my PT for my hamstring issue. He, like the doc, thinks I have some insertional tendonitis where the hamstring meets the glute. He used the ultrasound, some light massage and some heat on me (all of which was moderately embarrassing, given that the injury is basically in the inner part of my glute. He'll be sending me some exercises to do at home. My next appointment is Thursday. He'd rather I didn't run, which frankly is okay. I tried to run last night and just gave up when the pain went from dull to sharp. Oh well, such is life....

Bike Chick

12-20-2011, 09:13 AM

I'm glad you got in to see the PT today, Indy, and I hope you get some relief. That's just miserable. We are a pair, aren't we?

indysteel

12-20-2011, 09:25 AM

I'm glad you got in to see the PT today, Indy, and I hope you get some relief. That's just miserable. We are a pair, aren't we?

At least you got injured training for a significant goal! My stupid injury happened while I was running all of 4-5 miles at a time. I'm pathetic.

Blueberry

12-20-2011, 09:29 AM

At least you got injured training for a significant goal! My stupid injury happened while I was running all of 4-5 miles at a time. I'm pathetic.

Then I'm really pathetic:p:p

My ankle injury (which I'm still going to PT for and still banned from running) happened when I was up to 7 minutes of running in 30 minutes of workout. Bleh.

indysteel

12-20-2011, 09:44 AM

Then I'm really pathetic:p:p

My ankle injury (which I'm still going to PT for and still banned from running) happened when I was up to 7 minutes of running in 30 minutes of workout. Bleh.

We need a convalescent home for wayward TE runners I think.

emily_in_nc

12-20-2011, 06:47 PM

At least you got injured training for a significant goal! My stupid injury happened while I was running all of 4-5 miles at a time. I'm pathetic.

Not pathetic at all, to me. I just ran 4.6 miles on Monday, which was my longest run in two years. I was thrilled!

All a matter of perspective...

Bike Chick

12-21-2011, 03:46 AM

All a matter of perspective...

Very true! I went to my chiro last night and "ran" all this past him. He's completed the Disney marathon and it certainly makes a difference talking to someone who is a runner and is active. He told me that if I already had my 20 mile run in, my fitness was there and I could do this race--I just may have to walk a lot. It is more important right now to heal my hip and go into the race pain free than to keep running the next 2 weeks to get the miles in. He said a painful hip would take me out of the race faster than being tired. He also told me running a marathon is 90% mental and if I am rested, that makes all the difference in the world. It helped to hear that.

I also tried the eliptical and the hip started burning after 15 minutes so I moved to the dreadmill and got a brisk walk in for 30 minutes. It felt good to be moving and sweating.

Crankin

12-21-2011, 03:51 AM

No, Indy, I am pathetic. I hurt my foot running 2-3.5 miles at a time.
I am going to have to bite the bullet and go the podiatrist. It's affecting my cycling and that is not acceptable!

Catrin

12-21-2011, 04:33 AM

Crankin - good luck, I hope the podiatrist is able to give you the relief that you need!

Bike Chick - does your fitness club have ArcTrainers in their cardio machine offerings? I've found that ellipticals and other cardio machines either tweak my hip (mild arthritis) or knee ("runners" knee), but the ArcTrainer has a slightly different movement and I can use that as long as I want without pain anywhere in my body. You can use a running-like motion on it, and it is certainly better than the dread-mill... It is worth checking out if they have that option.

indysteel

12-21-2011, 05:06 AM

Not pathetic at all, to me. I just ran 4.6 miles on Monday, which was my longest run in two years. I was thrilled!

All a matter of perspective...

Oh, I totally agree. I was being just being cheeky in calling myself pathetic. I think all of our accomplishments are significant, especially when you consider the state of the general population.

7rider

12-21-2011, 08:00 AM

Seven---That's great!!! Brian and I might have to put that race on our calendar next year. We both love Baltimore.

Do you have any races on your schedule for early 2012? I am hoping to do a 10K in the first quarter.

Never got to reply to this....
Thanks! You should...it's a fun event, if a bit crowded (3,000 is the cap).
Nothing early scheduled. Maybe start the season with the Hagerstown Du (http://www.racinemultisports.com/Duathlon.html) on April 21. I'd then like to do the Ft. Ritchie Oly Du (http://www.racinemultisports.com/Fort_Ritchie_Duathlon.html) on May 12. That would be primarily training for the Blackwater Du (http://www.tricolumbia.org/events/?eid=13) on June 3. Both events mean I have to get serious about running distances greater than 5 miles. And soon. I basically have to be up to a half marathon distance by May. For me, the world's suckiest runner. Is that even possible?

Well...we can all have our dreams, right? :p

Veronica

12-21-2011, 08:25 AM

For me, the world's suckiest runner. Is that even possible?

Well...we can all have our dreams, right? :p

Hey, you can't take my title away from me. :D

I'm beginning to accept that I may never run as fast as I would like. I really am not built for running speed. :p I suspect 7 minute miles will never be in my future. Maybe someday I'll be able to do one that fast!

But over the past year, with consistent running and a bit of a training plan, I've seen a lot of progress. More importantly, I kind of enjoy it now.

Just keep it fun 7 and keep doing the best that you can. And remember not every day is going to be a PR. Some days, I'm a full minute or more off from my fastest pace.

Veronica

katluvr

12-21-2011, 08:43 AM

I haven't been on line in a few day so it was interesting to read all the posts...and very timely after my 12 mile "slog" today. Sorry about everyone's injuries. Last year training for Pikes Peak Ascent my goal was not to get injured and to no hate running. I managed that. Of course I have tweaks of ITB pain, some plantar fasceitis (sp?) and that stuff, but no real injuries or pain that prevent me from running. I don't think getting injured running is pathetic no matter the distance or what. I think some if how we are physically built or running still or just bad luck. I consider myself fortunate. As for distance and speed. I normally am meant for endurance/distance because I am SLOW. Definitely a turtle. However I really would love to get closer to a 2 hour 1/2 marathon. That means more like a 9 min mile. So today I was to run LR pace then mid mileage at race pace...so like 9 min miles...it was NOT possible. Of course I have to gotten in my weekly mileage or speed work and it showed today. I managed an 11 min mile pace over all for 12 miles. True it was a bit warm for this time of the year, mid 70's, but still I should of been faster. But I had lots of opportunities to turn around and cut the run short but decided 12 slow, not so much fun miles, was better than not doing the miles.
Normally I feel like I am venting or whining here about being slow and not improving and I get lots of inspiration and pep talks...now it is is my turn to give it back.
TE ladies are my inspirations, my drive to continue, often you help me set my goals. Getting injured sucks. Sorry. I could not imagine not being able to continue training for a set race. For others that are just trying to get miles up...good of you. We all started there. At least all of us are trying and giving it our best shot (or trying to at least).
Hugs and best wishes for healed runners here on TE!
K

emily_in_nc

12-21-2011, 01:41 PM

Thank you for a very nice post, katluvr, and congrats on your 12-mile "slog". I think you did great considering that I would die trying to run that distance at any speed!

Today was not a good run for me. It was hot and sunny -- 80 degrees by the time I took off at 7:30 am, very windy (cross-wind the entire way since I run on the beach), tide was very high so had to run in soft sand in places, and I had a bit of a Benedryl "hangover" and itchy/sore ankle from where the stinging ant got me on Monday, which is why I'd taken the Benedryl the night before. Ugh!

Managed 3.25 miles and was just glad to get that in, under the circumstances!

OakLeaf

12-21-2011, 03:48 PM

Healing thoughts to all our injured runners! There's nothing "pathetic" about any running - it is what it is and I hope everyone heals up quick.

I had an awful run today too. Must be something in the air. Yeah, it was hot, plus my stomach hasn't been right for three days now, so I was under-fueled and dehydrated. Plus my mood has been just awful. I ran the first six miles wanting to cry and the last eight wanting to puke, and the whole thing wanting to quit. But I did it. :p At an 11:39 pace, which I would point out is over 3 mm slower than I ran the half in October - I think most people can count on racing endurance events at least 2 mm faster than long run pace, so don't count yourself out!

indysteel

12-21-2011, 04:37 PM

Thanks for the healing thoughts. Just to emphasize that I really didn't mean to insult anybody by using the word pathetic. I was just being a little sulky that I injured myself while running what I think of as a modest amount. I didn't intend that comment to be a reflection on anyone else.

Now back to our original program.

Veronica

12-21-2011, 04:41 PM

Blueberry

12-21-2011, 04:43 PM

I figured you were just having a well deserved pity party. :p

Veronica

And I was sharing in said pity party. I've made up for it with the spinning challenge - which I thankfully CAN still do!

indysteel

12-21-2011, 04:57 PM

I figured you were just having a well deserved pity party. :p

Veronica

Yeah. I had just spent an hour with a PT massaging an area of my body that no one is privy to, not even my husband! I tried to just take it in stride, but oh the indignity.

Blueberry, you are rockin' that challenge. That's fantastic!!!

katluvr

12-21-2011, 05:36 PM

I also enjoyed a massage today. My massage therapist works and works until he thinks he has all the knots out of my back & shoulders, I think he lost today! He found some wonderfully painful places on my legs, too! Oh the joy of a really good deep massage! My plantar fasceitis (I must look up that spelling) is really giving me the fits tonight, off to take my NSAID!
Hope I can get out for a few miles in the AM, then off to finish last minute xmas shopping (oh what fun!)

Hope we all have better runs tomorrow!

K

Bike Chick

12-22-2011, 03:54 AM

Bike Chick - does your fitness club have ArcTrainers in their cardio machine offerings? I've found that ellipticals and other cardio machines either tweak my hip (mild arthritis) or knee ("runners" knee), but the ArcTrainer has a slightly different movement and I can use that as long as I want without pain anywhere in my body. You can use a running-like motion on it, and it is certainly better than the dread-mill... It is worth checking out if they have that option.

No, we don't have any of those but I wish we did.

It must've been pity party day and I think we are all allowed a little bit but we are past that now and moving forward. Right?

indysteel

12-22-2011, 04:35 AM

No, we don't have any of those but I wish we did.

It must've been pity party day and I think we are all allowed a little bit but we are past that now and moving forward. Right?

I'm past the pity party. Now if this sidelines me for the rest of the winter, I'm might host another party in my honor, but for right now it's under control. Frankly, I've been under the weather this week so it was just another excuse to take it easy.

Catrin

12-22-2011, 05:26 AM

I'm past the pity party. Now if this sidelines me for the rest of the winter, I'm might host another party in my honor, but for right now it's under control. Frankly, I've been under the weather this week so it was just another excuse to take it easy.

I hope you, and everyone, gets to feeling better. I had my own personal pity party last week...thankfully I am starting to sleep a little better and that does help.

Indy, your PT sounds great, I wish I could utilize his services but, alas, he is in a different network.

katluvr

12-22-2011, 05:51 AM

Didn't mean to damper any pity parties...I have had plenty of my own. Just wanted you ladies to know how much inspiration I get her from my running buddies!

So I got off the couch this morning (tore myself away from the Today show, my coffee and cats) to go run. I thought about doing speed work, fartleks or even a tempo run. But after yesterday I decided to take it easy. So just 3 miles, probably slower than it should of been...but it is what it is. I'll get refocused for next week and find a way to get some real workouts in...but today if my pre-holiday day off (I work Fri & Sat) so going to the waterfront to take pics of the seabirds and then finish my holiday shopping.

Happy running all!

K

GLC1968

12-22-2011, 07:58 AM

Damn it, I missed the pity party? That's just like me...always late to the party! :p I was going to moan about my plodding running too! At least I can thank my lucky stars (and my sensitive feet), that I'm still injury free. Sorry to those of you on the IR list. Here is sending you all Holiday Healing vibes!

so going to the waterfront to take pics of the seabirds and then finish my holiday shopping.

That sounds SO nice. While I like cold and snow for the holidays, after the last 15 years of either living or visiting FL for the holiday season, I am finding myself missing the mild weather this time of year, too. Funny!

Last year at this time, I was running on the Pinellas trail and complaining that 75F was too hot. :rolleyes:

limewave

12-22-2011, 11:19 AM

five miles.

katluvr

12-22-2011, 11:20 AM

yellow

12-22-2011, 12:59 PM

Trying not to complain about warm temps...I hate the cold, but it's downright toasty while running, but NO humidity (by our standards). Truly is beautiful weather we are enjoying! Close to 80 today, I'm sure it is 80 in the sun. If my pool wasn't so cold I would be in it!:D

80 sounds pretty darn nice! We've had very mild temps in Salt Lake so far this fall/winter, so my early morning runs in the dark have been downright heavenly. It's been in the mid-to upper 20s when I am out (I usually leave the house at about 5:30 am). I'd forgotten how much I love running in the dark and cold (although it is mild), just me & the dog on the trail. I love the tranquility of running through the oak forest in the dark. Unfortunately we haven't had much snow, which means that I'm still on dirt most of the time. We got a skiff of snow last night, so I had a nice animal tracking adventure this morning. Seems my trail is a coyote highway. :)

Everyone, heal up or, if you are healthy, stay healthy! Happy running over the holidays and may we all have super-duper running in 2012! We rock!

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emily_in_nc

12-22-2011, 03:40 PM

Everyone, heal up or, if you are healthy, stay healthy! Happy running over the holidays and may we all have super-duper running in 2012! We rock!

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Love this, yellow! I second this wish! :)

And I will try to stop complaining about running in 80 degrees and humid conditions... :D

Veronica

12-23-2011, 11:03 AM

I haven't done as much running as I should have this month. I strained a hamstring running on my birthday :( last Saturday. (The rest of my day was great.) Thus I haven't gone out to run this week until today. It was 45 degrees - which is a little cold for us - but wonderfully sunny. I had a great 5 mile run - average pace of 9:43. I'm pretty happy with that.

I'm going to need to work at it to get in the rest of mileage this month. But as long as my hamstring stays good, I know I can do it. :p

Veronica

emily_in_nc

12-23-2011, 03:52 PM

I had another below-par run this morning. It was 80 degrees again, humid, and very sunny by 7:30 am. I intended to run 4 but started feeling nauseous somewhere around 3.3-3.5 so walked the rest of the way.

Strangely, it was cooler many mornings in November and early Dec. than this past week or so. I hope the cooler pattern comes back. I am already dreading "spring" runs, if this is "winter"! :(

skhill

12-24-2011, 06:16 AM

Emily, if I moved to Belize, I'd probably be an ex-runner soon. I'm in awe of how you're dealing with heat and humidity!

Seems like my running mojo has gone on vacation. Didn't feel like running on Friday, but did it anyway. I took a local history route, going past a bunch of local landmarks, enjoying the Christmas decorations and not worrying about pace. It was nice!

Today, I didn't feel like running yet again. I think I had a sugar hangover from too many cookies last night. So, no long run, just 5 miles in the neighborhood listening to the mp3 player.

Santa, can you bring some running inspiration?

Veronica

12-24-2011, 08:31 AM

3.5 miles for me today in my elf hat. :D It was good run, 31 degrees out and it took awhile for my hands to warm up. But my head was warm.

Veronica

OakLeaf

12-24-2011, 03:51 PM

I had a decent run today, first time in a week my legs haven't felt like absolute lead. It's a bit cooler but I don't think that was the whole problem. Whatever it was I'm glad it's gone. I'm still fighting a low-grade nausea, which in my world almost always means I'm not getting enough salt, but with my BP I'm afraid to really pack the salt in, so I'm taking it Zenergize tablet by Zenergize tablet and we'll see. Anyway, I did the bridge loop again, 7.6 miles and a handful of Merry Christmases. :D

emily_in_nc

12-24-2011, 04:54 PM

Emily, if I moved to Belize, I'd probably be an ex-runner soon. I'm in awe of how you're dealing with heat and humidity!

Thanks skhill! I'm from North Carolina, so it wasn't a big change when we first moved here in August. And I didn't deal with the heat/humidity combo well at all at first. My first runs here were miserable, 1-2 miles, having to say a mantra in my head just to survive them. It is only as it became cooler in the mornings that I was able to up my mileage and started feeling much better on runs. But this week we had a mini-heat wave (for December, anyway!) that really wiped me out. The problem is that the day's high is often reached by 7 to 8 am as the sun rises SO early. It's actually cooler in the afternoon (just the opposite from an N.C. pattern), but I much prefer to get my runs over with in the morning. I am much too likely to find excuses to skip a run if I wait until afternoon.

Supposedly it's going to get a little cooler now so hopefully next week should be better, but we'll see as springtime comes if I can maintain running at all. At some point it may just become impossible. In NC I never ran outside during the summer, only on the treadmill, but I could ride my bike just fine in the summer. Don't have the treadmill option here.

skhill

12-27-2011, 09:28 AM

At about 5:40 am, 2011 became our wettest year ever recorded.:eek: More percipitation than I am tall. So I "celebrated" the milestone by heading to Y to do my run on the treadmill. It was freakishly quiet there this morning; there was no one on a treadmill or eliptical at 7 am. Intended to do 5 miles, went only 4, but faster than usual.

Hopefully it was my last treadmill run of 2011-- but with the wind and rain predicted for tonight, it might not be. Oh well.

emily_in_nc

12-28-2011, 12:15 PM

Finally, a "weak cold front" in the Yucatan brought the morning temperature for my run to 75F with a nice breeze and cloudy skies. Felt MUCH MUCH better and managed 4 miles. My last few runs had been in the 2.5-3.25 range, so this was a nice change. I love sun, but not when I run!

Jolt

12-28-2011, 02:54 PM

Adding another comment to the files of "what kind of a winter IS this?"...we had a bunch of rain last night--that should be snow this time of year around here! 45-minute trail run today...the town trails have good drainage so weren't particularly muddy despite last night's downpours. Yesterday I had to force myself out for a 20-minute run--I was tired from a 24-hour shift at work where I didn't get much sleep during the night (had a patient who took a turn for the worse so was up quite a bit dealing with that situation). Slept for about 12 hours last night and am back to my normal self. I'm glad those long shifts don't come around very often (only holidays, which we take turns working)--they can really wipe a person out!

7rider

12-28-2011, 05:55 PM

Still in CT. Rainy and crummy and no snow, so we didnt go to VT to ski. :(
Fortunately, I brought my bathing suit and some running clothes so I've gone to the gym a few days and/or got out for a run.
One thing I had to do was drag DH to Marshall's to look for Patriot's attire. In the land of the Redskins and Ravens, if your football passions are more distant, you're SOL. So I picked up a Pats tech tee, which I wore to the gym this a.m.
Yesterday was swimming, so today I did the treadmill and weights while my sister and her GF swam. The gym is the fitness center for a small local college, and the place was populated with college age jocks - actually the injured ones going over some rehab with college trainers and a coach. Two young basketball players were talking about Christmas and what they got. One young girl was all excited, because she got a Pats jersey she had been wanting. And there I was with mine. I felt like such a jock - and happy that I didn't look for a Giants or a Jets jersey (not that there were any there! Ha!).
So, I feel somewhat okay for all the cookies and stuff I've been munching all week, as I've been able to get active and not be a total load.

jessmarimba

12-28-2011, 08:07 PM

Didn't "run" per se, but went to PT/coach today for my tendonitis and it has been great, so far. He videotaped me running next to his car and I have some posture issues (I slouch) but he said I looked very light on my feet and have a lot of potential. Yay! (I hope he's not just humoring me!) We noticed that one of my legs tends to rotate in more than the other and that might be causing the unbalanced pain problems.

It was really cool to see a video of more than just my feet. I look a lot less awkward than I expected. And I have muscles in my legs! I mean, duh, but it was neat to see definition on the video when all I see is chunky thighs in the mirror :p

I'm very happy with how this is going so far. I'll keep you guys updated.

Crankin

12-29-2011, 03:34 AM

The instructor for my core and weights class didn't show up this morning at 5:30 :mad:, so I headed to the treadmill (dumb, since I have one at home). I was able to do 4 running intervals of 1-2 minutes for a total of 22 minutes without my foot hurting. It's a little tender now, but not like before.
I wonder if the difference is that I was wearing my"aerobics" shoes which have a much more cushioned heel.
We'll see how my foot feels later today.

OakLeaf

12-29-2011, 03:41 AM

I wonder if the difference isn't that your aerobics shoes probably don't have high heels. Generally it's only running shoes that do that, where "cross-trainers" and court shoes are much more neutral.

I'm just not ready for minimalist shoes, and the only "regular" shoes I've been able to find that fit have high heels. Having briefly worn the zero-drop shoes, I'm desperately missing not having to smack my heels every step I take. Why do they make shoes like that?????

I'm feeling a bit better and that means I'm going to run long today ... accountability post ...

ETA - done. 15.4, a really nice day for a run.

Crankin

12-29-2011, 03:10 PM

Actually, my aerobics shoes do have high heels. They are Nikes and have the clear looking heel with some kind of disc looking things inside. I don't remember the model. I bought them about 5 years ago and hardly wore them until this year. My running shoes are quite unsupportive, in that I bought them to avoid seams that hurt my bunion. They are pretty flat on the bottom. They feel thin and it's like I can feel the pavement when I run. I never ever had issues with my other shoes, except for the bunion. But ever since I got these, my knees, shins, and now of course my metatarsals are complaining.
My foot never got worse during the day, and I wore my comfortable shoes to make sure. I'll see how it is after spin tomorrow. I find the standing in spin bugs my foot. I hardly ever stand when I am riding, so that is not an issue.

skhill

12-30-2011, 06:09 AM

Freakish weather here yet again-- it was so warm this morning that I did my run in shorts and short sleeves, but with mittens. Just 4 miles; the wind was picking up as the sun rose, so I cut it short.

I'd been getting a bit down on myself about my low mileage and slow speeds of late, but last night I looked back at my log from last December. And now I feel better. Last year my mileage was slightly higher, averaging 28 miles/week to this year's 25, but I'm going about 20 sec/mile faster. Not bad! Still, the mileage is going to have to increase if I'm going to do a March 31 half. Plenty of time until then, though...