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Catrin
10-14-2011, 01:38 PM
At what point does wind become a problem when riding in the woods? Obviously being in the woods helps a great deal, but obviously when they get too high then there is a concern about trees falling over :eek:

I am just curious how others approach this, though I am likely over-thinking this :o

Biciclista
10-14-2011, 02:04 PM
If winds are over 30 mph i'd stay out of the woods. especially after a soaking rain.

Becky
10-14-2011, 02:57 PM
Wind alone won't keep me off the trails, but Mimi makes a good point about rain and how it can make roots unstable. Then again, if the trails are that soaked, I wouldn't be riding them.....

Actually, on a windy day, I'm more likely to MTB than go for a road ride.

Catrin
10-14-2011, 03:09 PM
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Actually, on a windy day, I'm more likely to MTB than go for a road ride.

Indeed, same here, and I won't ride the trails when they are closed. We have an online system here in Indiana where the trail conditions are tracked so I don't have to drive more than an hour to get to my favorite trails to find them unrideable.

The trails drain well and don't typically have to be closed for long in my favorite riding location. I just wonder sometimes about the trees that are not along the trails that are in less-well drained locations that could be blown down and land across the trails. It happens. All of that being said I am not overly concerned with it, just curious how others view this.

limewave
10-17-2011, 05:50 AM
If winds are over 30 mph i'd stay out of the woods. especially after a soaking rain.

That's about where I'm at with it. Usually the woods are a good shield, but if its been raining, the leaves are heavy and we have high winds--forget it! I've seen big branches come down and I've been pelted with little acorns. Not fun.

Catrin
10-17-2011, 06:27 AM
I was in the woods yesterday riding with a friend and her son. I had a lot of fun watching the wind-whipped tree tops :) There wasn't all that much wind that made it to the trail level but there was more than normal and it was fun. There doesn't seem to be any walnut trees on that particular trail or else they have already fallen - there have been strong winds for a few days.

I was riding slower than normal and hit a root at an angle while going slow...fell hard and fast. That will be a lesson I won't soon forget, snapped my neck and wrenched my back :eek: A bit stiff and sore today but I feel MUCH better this morning, still hitting the ibuprofen bottle.

The interesting thing is the soreness ISN'T on the side that hit the ground, but the opposite side. I wouldn't have thought that...

Aggie_Ama
10-17-2011, 07:02 AM
We have had a lot of trees falling due to the drought but no one I know has had one hit them or even been presnt. I have had some limbs fall. :eek: Usually I say around 30 mph, although I don't pay much attention to the winds before I leave for the trails.

Completely unrelated, one local guy was riding a trail that is an out and back. Passed one point, it was clear but when he returned a BOULDER had tumbled down. That would be scary!!!

limewave
10-17-2011, 07:27 AM
Boulder! Yikes! We were hiking in Northern California once during the rainy season. And a section of trail along a steep ridge washed out while we were hiking! We had to do some dangerous scaling and climbing to get around that section on the way back. File this under things I would never consider now that I have children . . .

Another reason I don't like riding in high winds is the debris on the trail. A lot of little sticks and branches to fly up and break a derailleur.

OakLeaf
10-17-2011, 08:26 AM
It's been a bumper year for black walnuts. They can be a danger to road riders even! The other day I was climbing a steep hill on the road, and a walnut fell just in front of me with a huge BANG. Seriously, it would probably have required a new helmet, and knocked me off the bike, if it'd hit me.

Then it just rolled .... all the way down that 18% grade. :eek:


We usually stock up on water at home when the wind comes up, in case a tree comes down across the electric lines. But I think the chances of being hit by a falling tree are pretty remote. It does happen ... even to people in cars sometimes. But it's not really something I'd worry about compared to all the other things that might happen.

Catrin
10-17-2011, 08:39 AM
....But it's not really something I'd worry about compared to all the other things that might happen.

That was pretty much the conclusion I had reached, and the winds do dry off the trails if that is needed ;)

Aggie_Ama
10-17-2011, 02:18 PM
Lime-Seriously, I saw the thing later, it was huge. One of the trails I am racing in a few weeks had a landslide of rocks, I am not happy about that part of the trail doesn't seem stable but hopefully I can fly through there!

I have been hit by acorns, I sometimes think the squirrels throw them. :) Luckily it is more just odd sounding on your helmet, doesn't hurt. Then again the ones you are describing aren't what we have here. We do have Burr Oaks at work and those acorns are pretty beefy, I think they would hurt.

Total threadjack - Yesterday we were riding and the biggest grasshoppers ever were on the attack! They were BIG and would latch on to your jersey, one hopped on my helmet, into your legs. It was insane, it is where my next race is I hope I don't have to deal with them attacking.

Catrin
10-18-2011, 08:02 AM
...Total threadjack - Yesterday we were riding and the biggest grasshoppers ever were on the attack! They were BIG and would latch on to your jersey, one hopped on my helmet, into your legs. It was insane, it is where my next race is I hope I don't have to deal with them attacking.

Yikes, that would be creepy! At least they don't sting. On the trails this weekend it seemed that bees were attracted to our bare skin, legs mainly. Unsure what was up with that but at least they didn't sting!

Roadtrip
10-18-2011, 08:18 AM
Yikes, that would be creepy! At least they don't sting. On the trails this weekend it seemed that bees were attracted to our bare skin, legs mainly. Unsure what was up with that but at least they didn't sting!

I think I read somewhere bees late in the season get drunk stupid on fermented sugars and the like as flowers and trees start to wind down and go dormant... A bees eat as they continue to try and stockpile for winter.

Also, depending on overnight temps, the bees are lathargic due to the temps / changing weather patterns too. So won't make it to see another spring so the fall is like a last ditch effort for them.

Aggie_Ama
10-18-2011, 08:55 AM
Bees are also attracted to perfume, I could see if you shaved that morning you might smell perfumey. Glad they didn't sting.

My husband was creeped out by the grasshoppers which was kind of comical because he is a guy! Who says boys are tough? :p

OakLeaf
10-18-2011, 09:50 AM
Bees are also attracted to perfume

Earlier this year we went for a slow walk in the park with my in-laws. I'd used a rose-scented moisturizer, and there was one honeybee that just would not leave me alone. She followed me for the whole lap! Never bothered me, but it was kind of weird.

Catrin
10-18-2011, 10:14 AM
I don't use perfume anything if I can manage it, my asthma doesn't like it. It is possible that the bees like my St. Ives Shea Butter body wash though...The temps had also gone pretty low the night before, but shooting up pretty quickly that afternoon so it was likely a few things.

Can't get the huge grasshoppers out of my mind, picturing the attack of the mutant grasshoppers :)

Catrin
10-20-2011, 06:04 AM
I am very glad I went riding Sunday, even if I did hurt my neck and back (back is fine, neck is on the mend). Considering we are in the third day of non-stop drenching rain all of the mountain bike trails are closed...so doubtful I can hit the trail for my birthday this Sunday anyway. I do want to wait until my neck is healed before I hit the trails again, no sense asking for trouble.

The wind was quite refreshing, the trees had served to filter them down to a reasonable level. Sweet!