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LovesFrance
04-17-2003, 07:29 AM
Where else could I ask this?
Ok, over the weekend I had my period. I tried stuffing the string "up there" as much as possible, but after back-to-back rides (and I'm only talking 10-milers), I was sore and kind of swollen. I think it was from irritation from the string. Any suggestions?
Irulan
04-17-2003, 07:33 AM
I find that my pelvic region is somewhat congested anyway during my period, are you sure its the string?
There's a product used by mountaineering women called "the Keeper" which is more like a menstrual cup to catch the flow. You might try that.
Hey it's not embarassing, we're mostly (all?) women here...
Irulan
gapgoil
04-17-2003, 08:23 AM
A good friend of mine is a huge believer in the keeper. She finds it really comfortable. I believe that she discovered it when she was a bike messenger, and it is super practical for being on your bike all day.
I personally have never used it, tampons do the trick for me.
goddess1222
04-17-2003, 09:54 AM
irulan is right. there are no embarassing questions on these boards. we are all VERY supportive of one another.
LovesFrance
04-17-2003, 11:07 AM
Thanks so much--for the suggestions, for the reassurance, and mostly for being the kind of women who wouldn't even think of suggesting that I NOT ride during my period. As if!
Veronica
04-17-2003, 01:20 PM
Heavens to Betsey! It would never occur to me to tell someone not to ride EVER!
Does remind me of what my mom told me about tampons when I was a little kid. My brother had a girlfriend who occasionally stayed over and one day when I was snooping in his room I found one in the package. I guess I was about 7. I took it to my mom. She told me it was a sex toy. :p
Okay this is the same woman who told me to call breasts Body Bombs. I love my mom, but man was she old fashioned about some things.
Veronica
goddess1222
04-17-2003, 07:52 PM
0hhhh veronica!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!
velocity
04-18-2003, 06:05 AM
I'm so glad we're talking about this! The timing is perfect :)
What is the Keeper, and where can I buy one? It's been recommended to me before, but no one ever seems to have a source. Tampons are turning from friend to foe for me (yeast infections), and I've been trying to ask around about alternatives. It's kinda funny how uncomfortable some women get with frank talk about body stuff. I kind of figure, well, we both go through this every month, and ask blunt questions whcih I guess makes some folks feel embarrassed. Or something. Glad I found you ladies!
Also, do any of you have experience with that cup-like product? the name is escaping me at the moment, but I've seen them in drugstores.
Have a good day everyone.
Veronica
04-18-2003, 06:36 AM
Yahoo search brought up the following.
http://www.keeper.com/
Veronica
ayermail2
04-18-2003, 06:57 AM
the one in the drug stores is called (I think) Instead. Never used it but am intrigued ...
administrator
04-18-2003, 07:59 AM
The Keeper can also be found here:
http://www.gladrags.com/alternatives.html
ayermail2
04-18-2003, 04:28 PM
Just wanted to share....
I get very embarassed talking about this stuff, but being on the forum like this makes it a lot easier! I can ask questions and participate in discussions I would normally be too embarassed to!
PS I ordered the keeper, gonna try it out next month!
Terry
04-18-2003, 05:19 PM
Veronica,
Body Bombs??? That is a scream! I bet your mom is a hoot.
I've discovered that wearing the Terramar Bodysensor panties with a lite pad to back of the Tampax under my favorite riding shorts seemed to do the trick for me.
I'm going to keep the cup in mind...sounds like it's pretty safe. I hope all of you who try them in the near future will keep us posted.
Terry
Veronica
04-18-2003, 06:13 PM
I teach 5th grade and in the spring I get to do Family Life - lucky me, we cover everything! - to kind of ease the tension for all of us I tell my class about the Body Bombs. It's part of the lecture about calling things by their proper names. I always get this picture of my mom just whipping one off and throwing it at somebody like a water balloon. She's not unendowed either. :D
Veronica
LovesFrance
04-21-2003, 09:55 AM
VERONICA...What a scream! I remember when my mom told me I couldn't wear tampons until I got married!!
VELOCITY...Another suggestion for the YI w/ tampons: maybe all-cotton tampons may help. I haven't tried them (although I am prone to YIs, too, tampons don't seem to bother me that way). All natural material may be less irritating. Also, don't use scented tampons or pads--they are killer.
Hill Nelly
04-21-2003, 03:42 PM
Good golly Miss Molly, the stuff this girl learns on this forum!
A thoughtful topic to bring up, LovesFrance. I am just always impressed with the support on this forum. Makes ya feel comfortable sharing some otherwise sensitive topics.
Thank you Veronica for the website on the Keeper. I'm getting one, too! I think this will solve some real discomfort / sanitary issues I thought I'd just have to suffer with out on those epic long rides...not to mention the camping trips!
Get in an epic ride / adventure this week girls!
Hill Nelly
Irulan
04-21-2003, 03:47 PM
I"m not sure if the keeper is one of those ones that you have to wash out before re-using. I'd be curious too as that would present a whole other set of problems. somehow I always have heavy surprise break though bleeding when it's just me and six guys out in the backcountry. Tampons and ziplocks has been the way I've had to go in teh backcountry (bikeing or anything else) , for lack of any better ideas.
Irulan
Nancy
04-22-2003, 05:07 AM
I've been using the Keeper for about 3 cycles now. It takes some getting used to, but I think it is well worth it. Just returned from trip and didn't leave one "clue" behind at the in-laws.
Read all the info on the mentioned websites and what they send you with the Keeper. It was not hard to insert, but learning to take it out is a bear! Make sure you break the suction completely or it really hurts (voice of experience!) They say you can keep it inserted up to 12 hours; I have done that with no problem. When removed and emptied, they recommend either rinsing it out or just wiping it out . One woman said she carries a small water bottle with her to rinse it off in public restrooms.
I do have a little breakthrough on occasion; I've made little cotton reusable pads to use early on in my flow.
I think it's a great product given the convenience and no more trash!
Irulan
04-22-2003, 05:58 AM
1. how do you think it would be for the backcountry... no running water? (for hand washing or rinsing) I assume you'd have to bury the blood? I ride a lot way out in the mountains, backpack too and sometimes in bear country. I used to take a diaphragm out in the back country( for other reasons, haha) and that sucked big time.
2. How does it handle extremely heavy ( and I do mean HEAVY) flow... the kind where a super lasts maybe an hour or two?
thank you
Irulan
ayermail2
04-22-2003, 07:57 AM
how is it near the end, when everything is really light???
BTW - keeper.com doesn't have the latex ones right now. they are selling an alternative medical grade silicone one for about 5$ less than the latex one ...
Nancy
04-22-2003, 05:21 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Irulan
[B]1. how do you think it would be for the backcountry... no running water? (for hand washing or rinsing) I assume you'd have to bury the blood
I used to read the Women's Pages on www.backpacker.com and a lot of women used it without a problem. Yes, you have to empty the blood into a cat hole and clean up after, but apparently it's not any more attractive to the various critters than your standard cathole "ingredients". Yes, you need to clean hands after, but again I think this is SOP after most cathole activities :).
2. How does it handle extremely heavy ( and I do mean HEAVY) flow... the kind where a super lasts maybe an hour or two?
I can't really answer that one since I haven't had a heavy flow since I received the Keeper, but the recommendation is to change it as often as you would change your tampon. A pad (bandana?) just in case would probably be a good idea.
I can report that it works just fine at the end when you're just spotting lightly. That's when I could go 12 hours between changes, which was nice when traveling on planes all day long!
Nancy
ayermail2
04-22-2003, 06:28 PM
Nancy - thank you, thank you! It was reading the testimonials on their site and no one mentions that!
It is SO great to have women out there like you all!!
If you please, I have one more question for any of you:
any comments on medical-grade silicone vs latex rubber? (when I tried to order, I was told that the latex is not available due to supplier issues at the moment, and would I be interested in the medical-grade silicone one)
You always hear about silicon implants and trouble, but this doesn't seem like quite the same situation, so I am thinking I will try it anyway.
thanks for all your help on this ladies!!
Irulan
04-22-2003, 08:17 PM
some folks have latex allergies.
I too really appreciate the nitty grittythat people are sharing here.
I'm asking about the heavy flow issue as my periods have gotten super heavy and short as I've entered my 40's. They don't tell you this will happen. What used to take five days can be over in a day and a half. Talk about heavy and having to be prepared...
Irulan
coolbeansbikes
05-25-2003, 06:10 AM
well, actually "divacup" (www.divacup.com )
--- I tried it and LOVE IT! At first it was really weird, it just looks HUGE! LOL. But then as you get used to it, it's easier. Don't even feel it... Not going back!!! :o)
assassin__x
06-01-2003, 08:12 AM
The diva cup looks just like the keeper. I tried the keeper once, didn't really work for me, I just couldn't get the seal right (and I did try it for a few cycles). But true to their word they took it back and refunded my money with no questions. I think that I'll try it again, there are accually a couple of store in around Halifax, NS, that carry it.
If you're not keen on mail order (being in Canada its hard to find companines sometimes with reasonable shipping fees) then there maybe some stores where you can buy it. One store is one that specializes in natural products (hemp stuff, things like burt's bees products, etc). The other is called Venus Envy, and I guess is just a women's store, carries books, sex toys, sensual products like message oils.
MightyMitre
06-08-2003, 05:08 AM
The Keeper or Cup is excellent - I can really recommend it. I've been using it for over a year now and it did take a little while to get used to, but I wouldn't change back now. I also haven't had a yeast infection in all that time.
It's ideal for cycling as there's nothing exteral to rub or chafe and depending on flow I can leave mine in for 8 or 9 hours. It's also good for start and end of period because unlike tampons it only collects what's there and doesn't become dry and hard.
As for changing -as we're being frank I'll tell you what I do. I used to empty mine then rinse under the tap, but because the wash rooms at work don't have a cubical with basin this became a bit diffcult. Now, when I empy mine I pee on it to rinse it out ( which works suprisingly well). and give it a quick wipe with some loo roll. Urine is also sterile so what could be better. ( However, I do make sure I give it a good wash with soap and warm water twice a day)
I'm sure this would work quite well if you're in the middle of nowhere. Fortunately we don't have bears in England to worry about.!
annie
06-08-2003, 05:50 PM
I've been reading all these posts. Makes me think I should try one or the other of these products since getting older certainly isn't slowing the flow down! Here's a question: What happens if you go a bit too long before emptying the keeper? Does it leak? Does it just back up like a flood waiting to happen? Yikes! I can picture that........
I like MightMitre's emergency cleaning suggestion. Hey, you never know if you are out on a bike ride and there's nowhere to go and definitely nowhere to rinse it out. Gotta do something! Could you wipe it out with a hand wipe or would that not be good for it? I guess a wipe could be used on your hands, at least.
Terry
06-08-2003, 06:09 PM
I have a new embarrasing question...I've noticed that in the past few weeks, I've developed an urgency to urinate...like, if I were a male dog, I would do it just right there on the spot (sorry to be so graphic).
I'm not having a bladder/urinary track problem, no infection, no kidney problem, nada...just this "urgency" and a I have to hurry or I'll leak. (Sorry, again...)
I've read about this "problem" among women runners. I wish I could remeber where I'd read about it because I know there has been research studies and it's got a name. Anyone got any ideas or know of where I can find out more about this "problem"?
Terry
NW_Meg
06-11-2003, 11:16 AM
Just wanted to chime in that I've been using Instead for years. It's available in most grocery and drug stores. Economical, too, as the cups are actually reusable (if washed well and promptly).
Two warnings:
1) it takes a day or two to get used to, and you'll have to "explore" for comfortable placement... so pick a trial period day that you don't plan riding and let your body adjust.
2) b/c you empty and wash the device (as opposed to discard and replace, as with a tampon), make sure to scout public restrooms with a sink nearby the toilet.
Besides athletic convenience and economical benefits, there are also huge environmental and health benefits to such products. They are much safer for the female body, and it's kind of empowering to get over the 'squeamish' factor that's been engrained in us.
Just my two cents!
cyclechick
07-28-2003, 07:23 AM
There's also a new product called INSTEAD...It's a cup thing. I LOVE it! It takes a while to get used to, but once you do...it's the best thing since tampons. I get mine at Target. But search the web, I got some free samples and a video from the company
hibiscus09
07-28-2003, 02:20 PM
Okay, some of these stories are pretty funny. :) My sister-in-law actually called me about 3 years ago and asked me if I thought it would be okay for her daughter (who was on the swim team & 13 years old at the time) to use a tampon. She was worried it would mean her daughter wasn't a virgin anymore. LOL I told her that wasn't what would make her daughter not a virgin any more. :D
Anyway, back to the tampon while exercising question. I just take scissors & cut the string off of my tampon (I leave about 1/4 inch of string) and have no problem whatsoever pulling it out by that string. It's not going to get lost -- it can only travel so far. :D
Re: Keeper
I've been using mine since '98. Its wonderful when I'm riding or swimming because everything is tucked inside (no worries about escaping strings). Its also great when I first get my period because I'm not having to run to the bathroom every 2 hours like I had to when I used tampons.
It takes a lot of the hassle out of having my period when I'm backpacking as I don't have to pack out used tampons, which always made me nervous when I was in bear country. I use it all the way through my period and find that it doesn't dry me out like tampons used to!
Overall I've been very happy with it, but this is just my 2 cents worth.
Ali
karen_fish_bio
08-06-2003, 07:06 PM
For what it is worth, I usually just use a regular tampon, but often ride a lot longer than the tampon is sufficient for... the pad in my shorts doubles as a maxi pad back up...and litterally: it all comes out in the wash. As crazy as this sounds, if the tampons are causing problems...just go with out. You are wearing black shorts and its not like you are risking riuning your favorite pair of Victoria Secret lacy drawers... The idea of intentinally doing nothing seems really odd to me, but how is that different than wearing a tampon for 6 hours on a day that calls for a fresh one every 2?
Another thought about the "cup" things is that a regular contraceptive diaphragm works like that too.
Karen
annie
08-07-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by karen_fish_bio
As crazy as this sounds, if the tampons are causing problems...just go with out.
Karen [/B]
Karen, LOL! If I went without, there would be days when the blood would be running down my legs! No bike chamois would be sufficient. On days when there's a really light flow, I do sometimes go without and when I get home, make sure I soak those particular shorts in cold water before I wash them. Works like a charm. Hang 'em up out in the sunshine and they are good to go.
linkbeak
08-28-2003, 10:23 AM
I have a related question -- I can't wear anything internally. After giving birth to two big boys, even with years of Kegel exercises, tampons, diaphragms, or keepers just don't stay put. So I'm wondering what peoples' experience has been with using pads while riding. I'm afraid it would irritate, but maybe not? My solution for short rides is just to not wear anything and assume that with the chamois and black shorts, nothing would show through. But I don't know how well that would work if my period coincided with a multi-day tour. Thanks!
Biking Kitsune
08-13-2004, 03:59 PM
I just quit depo-provera this january, and while I was awaiting the return of my period, I found this forum and first heard of 'instead' and 'keepers' ... I got the video for 'instead' and the little gift box they send. It took 8 months after that, but I finally got my period, and Instead proves to be as good as you ladies have said it is... (tried tampon/pad for a day and all I can say is "I WANNA GO BACK TO INSTEAD!!!" as soon as we have the $$, I'm ordering my Keeper, darn it! (and I'm telling all my friends for that matter!) freedom like this cannot be ignored! SPREAD THE WORD, LADIES!!!
yogabear
08-16-2004, 10:45 AM
Hi ladies,
Everyone here is so awesome to recommend different things and ideas...I am never embarassed though by bodily function type of things and I actually love them LOL...ok, maybe love is too strong of a word.
I had a surprise yesterday when I was at the Vans Warp Tour concert...my period started like 4-5 days early! Luckily, I found a gal who could give me one of her extra tampons. Thank goodness. I don't wear tampons unless I am riding and I have noticed the string is sooo annoying, so thanks for the person who recommended giving the string a bit of a trim.
I am lucky to only have two days of heavy flow. I have then 2-3 very light days. I am 32 so I have noticed my period has become lighter, but I know that could change. I like the idea of the Keeper, but I don't think it's for me. I like to know what my flow is doing and how much, etc. I practice fertility awareness method of birth control so I like to be in tune with my body...It's how I am, but I think the Keeper seems like a good option for many.
I will ride with a tampon when my flow is heavy but I usually don't wear anything when it's very light or scant...it does wash out well. Off the bike, I prefer pads so I know what is going on with my flow.
LOL at Veronica's Mom! :)
Happy Ridin',
Lisa
coolbeansbikes
08-16-2004, 06:05 PM
I like the idea of the Keeper, but I don't think it's for me. I like to know what my flow is doing and how much, etc.
Actually, now that I'm using it, I am much more aware than I used to be... and it's great even on those days when it's practically nothing ...
MightyMitre
08-18-2004, 01:36 AM
I'd have to agree. I've used the keeper for 2 years and it's a lot easier to keep track of your flow because rather than being absorbed in to a pad etc, everything is collected so , should you really want to - !! you could actually measure the amount.
I was reading on one website about a woman who collects hers and uses it to fertilise her garden plants! Not sure thats for me though.:eek:
smurfalicious
08-19-2004, 11:29 AM
Wow, I can't believe that no one has mentioned sea sponges! I can't speak from experience, because the so called "natural" food store in town can't be bothered to keep them in stock, but from what I've been told, they rock. You just squeeze it out, give it a good rinse, and put it back. Every now and again it needs to be washed, and most places sell them in kits with tea tree oil for that purpose.
Now, I spent a year stripping and if you think I could afford a week off every month, you're nuts. What we gals did, was cut our strings all together. It's a little weird at first, but you just hook your finger around it and pull it out.
My problem is that I'm a little more uh, moist than most and my poor chamois is suffering. Is anyone else similarly afflicted? I was thinking about getting some Luna Pads, but that would kind of defeat the purpose of the wicking/cooling properties of my chamois.
Argh!
love and cookies
-smurf
CorsairMac
09-24-2004, 10:14 AM
Holy Toledo what a wealth of information! I was amazed to hear about the Keeper!! News to me but thanks for the website link - went there right away and am going to try the Divacup. Like some of you - I'm in the mid-40s and my periods are very spastic now, anywhere from light to the Mississippi and who Knows when the next one will show up. I'm very excited about the keeper because I can keep one with me at all times now and never have to worry "gee, did I remember to leave some tampons at work?" etc etc. Once again - as I keep saying - you all ROCK! I LOVE this forum! As for the yeast infections, either try taking acidophulous (ok...I can't spell it) or increase it. It'll help to restore the "natural" bacteria in your body. Thanks again for all the awesome advice and the website.
a potentail keeper convert
mandigreene
11-06-2004, 06:12 PM
Quite interesting, thanx for the info, I'm gonna post another "personal" question here (Tips/Tricks), thanx!
mandi
SadieKate
11-06-2004, 08:03 PM
Ok, since we're asking embarrassing questions. Does anyone who uses the Keeper/Diva/Cup have problems with removal? I stopped using a diaphragm because it meant my hubby and I had to perform fantastic and mortifying feats of engineering to remove the thing so now I use tampons. But these irritate during a ride so I go without which is generally fine ("it all comes out in the wash). But I also go fishing all day when tampons are just . . . well you know. Can those of us with weird anatomies get the Keeper out without extra assistance?
coolbeansbikes
11-07-2004, 10:44 AM
no trouble here ... just try it a few times before you decide to adjust the length of the end (you can shorten it by cutting it, but you can't make it longer afterwords ..)
RoadRaven
04-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Um... here's another option (I have never heard of "the keeper")
I tried using maternity pads as well as super tampons (2) - but that was useless...
But near the pads, are pads for incontinence - and I wondered... so I picked up a pack of those at the chemists (explaining to the girl it was for cycling, not cause I was incontinent)
Excellent
Highly absorbant, as you would expect, and they are the same shape as the chamois, so they "fit" really well. They are not bulky.
Only drawback is they do soak up the sweat as well, but I use two tampons and one of those and I'm good for a couple of hours!
coolbeansbikes
04-19-2005, 03:11 PM
...
I am lucky to only have two days of heavy flow. I have then 2-3 very light days. I am 32 so I have noticed my period has become lighter, but I know that could change. I like the idea of the Keeper, but I don't think it's for me. I like to know what my flow is doing and how much, etc. I practice fertility awareness method of birth control so I like to be in tune with my body...It's how I am, but I think the Keeper seems like a good option for many.
Lisa
Hi Lisa! I like to "know what is going on" to, and have actually found the keeper to be a lot more "informative" shall we say than the tampons or pads ... (also, if you really need to know, there *are* measurements on the side too LOL)
singletrackmind
04-19-2005, 03:49 PM
Strippers just cut the string-as mentioned.
Terry-I know urine leaking women are quite common but I don't know about that urgent need to pee NOW thing. Kegels are recommended to help the first part (and it doesn't hurt your sex life either!)
I'm a 'heavy' for the first day, light the rest and I can't stand things up there when I'm riding so any but the first day I go without. As has been said, it does all come out in the wash.
Wow, this is a great thread!
RoadRaven
I highly recommend you use the search function and read about the keeper and diva. You can order them online. They are FABULOUS (I'm a diva person). I first learned about it here too.
RoadRaven
04-19-2005, 05:36 PM
Thanks Doc, I will...
Great thread!
AutumnBreez
04-20-2005, 03:36 AM
Heavens to Betsey! It would never occur to me to tell someone not to ride EVER!
Does remind me of what my mom told me about tampons when I was a little kid. My brother had a girlfriend who occasionally stayed over and one day when I was snooping in his room I found one in the package. I guess I was about 7. I took it to my mom. She told me it was a sex toy. :p
Okay this is the same woman who told me to call breasts Body Bombs. I love my mom, but man was she old fashioned about some things.
Veronica
Allowed brothers girlfriend to stay over, and
she was ok with telling you it was a sex toy?But yet she called breasts Body Bombs... Now that is a rather funny twist of old fashioned. She liked the name of body bombs I think.
Personally- I would rather tell my daughter about the tampons use, then say sex toy, and raise curiosity way beyond her years. After all if you were 7, you would probably be using tampons in another 7 years, but hopefully not using sex toys in that time.
My mom informed us girls about menstration when I was
as young as 6. I had a older sister 6 years older then me. I knew that it was just a part of life and no worries if someday I went potty and there was red on my panties to not freak out. My mom knew of some girls as she grew up that were never informed and absolutely freaked when they started. They thought they were bleeding to death and needed to be in hospital kinda freakin out. sheesha...
knowledge is a powerful tool.
I have 2 boys and they have known about women issues for years and they are 13 and 10 now. They are also immune and know the pms signs for the purpose of escaping when the getting is good.
Where else could I ask this?
Ok, over the weekend I had my period. I tried stuffing the string "up there" as much as possible, but after back-to-back rides (and I'm only talking 10-milers), I was sore and kind of swollen. I think it was from irritation from the string. Any suggestions?
The string can be tucked up between the lips down there. You pull it straight and toward your stomach (to give you reference on the direction) and it can be tucked very nicely, and layed flat, between the lips and the clit (sorry for the crass words, but I am too tired to think of the proper terms).
I have put it there for years... even swimming... and my string always stays put.
mercury
05-10-2005, 12:11 AM
Hi,
I just came across this forum this evening... and in particular this thread. I couldn't help myself from mentioning a couple things that I didn't see posted.
A camping trick I learned (from climbers-- not cyclist) for cleaning hands and body-- including during your period-- is to use baby wipes. They're fantastic! Keep them in a ziplock or resealing packaging so they don't dry out. I've never used a keeper and don't think I would use wipes to clean anything that went inside me, but everything else goes. Now I like long trips because I no longer feel itchy and gross!!
For multi-day cycling, especially if you are just relying on your bike shorts during your period, is to have two pairs of shorts. Every evening the dirty one gets washed and then hung off the back of your bike to dry as you ride the next day.
Great discussion.
m
Try-Chick
06-01-2005, 11:46 AM
After finding a bunch of posts about the Diva Cup I decided to try one. It took a couple of cycles until I got comfortable using it. It's is great for swimming and running as well. I put it in first thing in the morning the day I'm supposed to start and don't have to take it out until just before I go to bed. I clean it and put it back in for the night. It is great! :)
bouncybouncy
06-01-2005, 12:36 PM
I saw this thread many weeks ago and decided to order the Diva Cup...WOW!!! I will never use another tampon or pad again! Not only did I feel cleaner, fresher, and dryer (I live in Florida and the humidity makes you sweat EVERYWHERE :( ) The odor factor was eliminated. I rode, ran, swam, & slept with no issues and no leakage. I recommend this product to EVERY woman!
Thank you to whoever posted the link! :)
han-grrl
07-12-2005, 02:42 PM
I was just talking about this topic with a girlfriend...i am switching to longer enduro racing for next year...i have to admit, with my short races, i just ummm...use nothing. my period is very light as it is...which is fine when i am racing for an hour...but now i am racing for 8 hours PLUS (eek). Are any of the menstrual cups preferred for very light flow?
thanks
Han
Dianyla
07-12-2005, 04:08 PM
Are any of the menstrual cups preferred for very light flow?
Any/all of the cups will work well on a light flow. My period is 1 day of very heavy and 2 days of annoyingly light spotting. I love my cup on the heavy days because I can go twice as long between bathroom stops as I could with tampons. And I really love my cup on the light days because I can just check it twice a day (morning and evening) until my flow is completely done. No more having to drag out a half-dry tampon while risking TSS. **nails on chalkboard noise**
Ugh! Exactly. Dragging out a half dry tampon is horrendous.
Diva
Diva
Diva :)
I love it no matter what the flow is.
han-grrl
07-13-2005, 04:29 AM
So i decide one ride, to try and use a tampon, like i said my period is quite lite. OMG!!! I don't even want to describe what it felt like!! I was still in the parking lot, i went behind a tree with some kleenex, took it out (and practically screamed) and threw it out in some kleenex.
OY i never did that one again.
Ugh! Exactly. Dragging out a half dry tampon is horrendous.
Diva
Diva
Diva :)
I love it no matter what the flow is.
Dianyla
07-13-2005, 05:36 AM
Oh, also forgot to mention that the cups are great for spotting. I wear my mooncup often when I cycle simply because I spot often when I do physical exercise. Keeps the chamois from getting totally stained and trashed.
Sleek
07-13-2005, 11:07 AM
One minor tip that makes a great difference to how useful the Instead cups are, is that you can "burp" it, pardon the grossness. Another way to say this is: you can empty it without removing it. This same action works to break the suction, when you do want to remove it. Great for places where your hands aren't clean in the first place, such as a ride, or a hike, sailing. You are basically covered for a whole day of activity. I don't think they are meant to be re-used, but I suppose that would work too.
RoadRaven
07-13-2005, 12:22 PM
So... haven't investigated these in local shops yet...have been reading this thread with interest since I arrived at TE... and have another question - are they reusable or not? If not, how wasteful are they in terms of world resources - are they more non-biodegrable stuff we fill our landfills with?
I really must go and have a look to suss these out properly...
maryellen
07-13-2005, 12:27 PM
how timely . . . I just got my new diva cup in the mail yesterday. I tried putting it in a few times but couldn't seem to manage the "rotation" part. Did anyone else have trouble getting the knack of this?
As it turns out, it seems as if I won't have my period during the empire state aids ride anyhow, so there is less pressure to master the technique!
Dianyla
07-13-2005, 12:31 PM
So... haven't investigated these in local shops yet...have been reading this thread with interest since I arrived at TE... and have another question - are they reusable or not? If not, how wasteful are they in terms of world resources - are they more non-biodegrable stuff we fill our landfills with?
It's unlikely you'll find them in local shops, everyone I know has bought theirs online.
The Instead cups are not a durable device meant to last, I know some women who can reuse it several times but they rarely last more than a full period if they get that far. The Diva/Moon/Keeper cups will easily last several years, they are warranted for 10 but I can imagine with care and not doing things like leaving it in a car on a hot day it would probably last indefinately.
Also, the Instead's don't hold as much capacity, and some people experience discomfort with them because of the way they ride right against the cervix (as opposed to the other menstrual cups which ride lower in the canal and do not touch the cervix). One of the big advertising points of the Instead is being able to engage in intercourse without, erm, offending Mr. P, which I disagree with on so many levels.** Not to mention, Instead is an expensive disposable product which is not biodegradable since it is made of plastic.
**This kind of advertising just sends the message that menstrual flow is "dirty" and must be hidden from our sexual partners. My opinion is that if he can't handle a little construction dust then he should either stay off the worksite or wear a hardhat. :p
CorsairMac
07-13-2005, 12:32 PM
So... haven't investigated these in local shops yet...have been reading this thread with interest since I arrived at TE... and have another question - are they reusable or not? If not, how wasteful are they in terms of world resources - are they more non-biodegrable stuff we fill our landfills with?
I really must go and have a look to suss these out properly...
The diva cup and/or the keeper are both reusable for up to something amazing like 10 yrs. I bought the Instead since I'm almost done and didn't want to pay for something that I won't use too much longer. The Instead pamphlet states you should throw away every change but since it's basically the same material as the keeper, I just rinse well and reinsert. I do throw it away at the end of my cycle but now it's 1 cup once every few months (which is about how often I need one anymore) instead of multiple tampons.
mtnmunch
07-22-2005, 09:21 AM
Question for the ladies using the Diva/Moon/Keeper cups.
I work in a corporate office building, so our bathrooms are several stalls and open sinks. Is it a big deal emptying the cup while at work? also do you wash everytime you empty it?
last question, when I actually do get in my 64oz of water a day, I'm making many runs to the bathroom, do you empty the cup everytime you go?
thanks!
diana
How often you empty the diva depends on your flow. You definitely DON'T have to take it out everytime you go to the bathroom. On regular days I take it out in the shower in the morning, and before I go to bed. That's it. The shower is the best, no mess. On heavy flow days, I take it out only once more in the middle of the day.
The only downside is if you change it in a public restroom without a sink in the stall, you can have a bit of a mess on your hands (literally). The trick I learned here on TE (I think the credit goes to MightyM) is if you are in a public restroom without a sink in the stall, take it out and pee on it to wash the blood off it and your fingers. Then put it back. Remember, urine is sterile unless you are sick. (In certain african countries they bathe babies in cow urine because it's far cleaner than their water. But I digress.)
So one of the many great things about it is you change it quite infrequently. Much less often than tampons.
You're going to love it.
There is a big Q & A section on the diva website www.divacup.com It has a lot of good info. I disagree with only one thing. They say to wipe it off with toilet paper if you're in a public stall. Ick. It sticks and makes a mess. You're better off just emptying it and reinserting it as is. You will spot a little if you do that so be ready.
Irulan
07-22-2005, 10:11 AM
It's unlikely you'll find them in local shops, everyone I know has bought theirs online.
The Instead cups are not a durable device meant to last, I know some women who can reuse it several times but they rarely last more than a full period if they get that far. The Diva/Moon/Keeper cups will easily last several years, they are warranted for 10 but I can imagine with care and not doing things like leaving it in a car on a hot day it would probably last indefinately.
Also, the Instead's don't hold as much capacity, and some people experience discomfort with them because of the way they ride right against the cervix (as opposed to the other menstrual cups which ride lower in the canal and do not touch the cervix). One of the big advertising points of the Instead is being able to engage in intercourse without, erm, offending Mr. P, which I disagree with on so many levels.** Not to mention, Instead is an expensive disposable product which is not biodegradable since it is made of plastic.
**This kind of advertising just sends the message that menstrual flow is "dirty" and must be hidden from our sexual partners. My opinion is that if he can't handle a little construction dust then he should either stay off the worksite or wear a hardhat. :p
Just wondering if it occured to you that, um, bumping into something might be uncomfortable and possibly painful for the guy?
~I
**This kind of advertising just sends the message that menstrual flow is "dirty" and must be hidden from our sexual partners. My opinion is that if he can't handle a little construction dust then he should either stay off the worksite or wear a hardhat. :p
Well put!! LOL!!
alison_in_oh
07-22-2005, 11:47 AM
Just wondering if it occured to you that, um, bumping into something might be uncomfortable and possibly painful for the guy?
It shouldn't be a problem with Instead, if you look at their site (http://www.softcup.com/) they are very soft and pliable. Sex with the other softcups is NOT advised! :eek:
mtnmunch, no you don't have to empty it every time you pee. It gets a bit dislodged if you do anything that requires straining though, and leakage could result. :)
Emptying is no problem. I only have to do it in public on the first, heaviest day of my period. With only a minor amount of practice (I got the hang of it within the first day), removal is very clean. Everything stays in the cup, which you can then dump into the bowl. A quick swipe with some T.P. and it's ready to go back to work. Though I understand that pee is technically sterile, and public TP probably isn't, I'm more comfortable with this method than with putting my urine in my vagina -- call me squeamish! I haven't had any issues with this method.
Dianyla
07-22-2005, 12:17 PM
Just wondering if it occured to you that, um, bumping into something might be uncomfortable and possibly painful for the guy?
As has already been stated the Instead's are thin and smooth. However, this did remind me of a funny story I heard from an online acquaintance. She claimed that her menstrual cup was so comfortable that she, erm, forgot that she was wearing it, and her DH got a very rude awakening! :eek:
I had heard about the urine-rinse trick before from long distance hikers and I've tried it, but frankly I don't care for it. When I take a potty stop I gotta go NOW and I'm not going to hold my stream to get the cup out, emptied, and ready for rinsing. I also find that the urine-rinsed cup is hard to reinsert because it has no slip. Also, while urine should theoretically be sterile it may not be if you're prone to UTIs, and I find the salt to be a little irritating.
The best procedure I've come to is to just take the cup out, pour the contents out, and stick it right back in all messy. Leaving fluid on the cup really helps with reinsertion because it lubricates well, and I have no qualms about putting menstrual fluid right back up there because it just came out of the same place. If I really feel the need I might wipe it off with TP but as mentioned previously that tends to stick and dry out.
I know some women online who carry a little squirty bottle with plain water in their purse and use it to hose down while in a public restroom. Not a bad idea, but I really relish the idea of not having to carry my purse to the restroom.
My public restroom procedure is really quite simple:
1) wash hands and enter stall
2) do any #1/#2 as needed and clean up
3) remove cup
4) pour cup contents out
5) reinsert cup immediately
6) wipe hands with toilet paper
7) wipe girly bits for any leftovers
8) dress and exit stall, wash hands again
RoadRaven
07-22-2005, 12:51 PM
ahhh... let me get this straight...
are you all saying that you can have sex when wearing one of these things???
:confused:
Dianyla
07-22-2005, 01:04 PM
are you all saying that you can have sex when wearing one of these things???
The wannabe menstrual cup (Instead) is designed to allow this. The real menstrual cups (Diva, Keeper, Mooncup) do not allow visitors.
alison_in_oh
07-22-2005, 01:06 PM
ahhh... let me get this straight...
are you all saying that you can have sex when wearing one of these things???
:confused:
Hopefully the photo here will help: http://www.mum.org/KeeperInsteadpic.htm
The Instead cup is soft and flexible, supposedly unnoticed by your partner. The Keeper and Diva are firm and have long stems! Definitely not incognito!
RoadRaven
07-22-2005, 01:37 PM
okay....
:eek:
I don't think I would want something extra inside with something already in there...
But... interesting
Thanks for the enlightenment
mtnmunch
07-23-2005, 11:01 PM
Sorry to be off topic, but what does "DH" stand for? I'm assuming something husband, but not sure.
Thanks ladies ;)
DirtDiva
07-24-2005, 02:58 AM
Dear hubby/husband.
Sorry to be off topic, but what does "DH" stand for? I'm assuming something husband, but not sure.
In some contexts it can also meah DownHill...
mtnmunch
07-24-2005, 05:59 AM
Thank you, I had always heard it referred to Down Hill, but that wasn't fitting into the context :D
This will make reading much more sense now - hehe
CorsairMac
07-24-2005, 09:11 AM
Dear hubby/husband.
unless he's an Ex-Hubby then it means something else......................... :rolleyes:
Corsair "feeling fiesty today" Mac
MaryG
07-24-2005, 09:30 AM
unless he's an Ex-Hubby then it means something else......................... :rolleyes:
Corsair "feeling fiesty today" Mac
Too Funny! DH could be used that way for many ex-males in our lives. I know it has been talked about in other threads . . . the joy of dating a man that cycles . . . but doesn't it seem that some of the things that make biker-dudes the things of our dreams (living outside the norm, independence, passionate) also make them harder to live with?
Mary (who hates to admit that a man that bikes can get away with a lot in her life)
deenpac
09-28-2005, 04:16 PM
Okay, i am a new road biker and find the idea of the cups intriguing. But I tend to get crampy from wearing tampons. I find that in the beginning of my cycle (when it's heaviest) I have to wear a pad so as to not get cramps. Does anyone have the same problem with the cups?
Welcome deenpac.
I am crampy for one day also. The diva doesn't make it better or worse. I do get good relief with 400-800mg of ibuprofen though.
deenpac
09-28-2005, 04:44 PM
Hey doc, the cramps I am taking about aren't the usual 'first two days in bed on Darvocet and Naprosyn' kind of cramps (although I DO get those because I have endometriosis).
These are acute cramps from the tampon that instantly go away when I remove the little bugger. I think that it is a muscle contraction of sorts, like the pelvic floor muscles just can't handle holding the tampon in without being spastic. Just wondering if the cups would have the same effect or not. I understand that they expand into place?
Hmmmmm. Hard to say what your body will do with the diva cup. I am betting it won't object. I can feel tampons oftentimes, but I never feel the cup if it's in place correctly. I think you're going to have to try and see. Make sure you let us know.
coolbeansbikes
09-28-2005, 06:02 PM
Hmmmmm. Hard to say what your body will do with the diva cup. I am betting it won't object. I can feel tampons oftentimes, but I never feel the cup if it's in place correctly. I think you're going to have to try and see. Make sure you let us know.
from my experience, I'd have agree on this!
deenpac
10-07-2005, 10:31 AM
Okay, how's this for luck? I was on day 3 of my period when I received my Diva Cup! So I have been using it for a couple of days now and I have to say that I like it. I don't feel it when it is in but I can say (and this is a little gross) that it makes me feel like I have to have a bowel movement all of the time. I guess from the pressure it exerts onto the posterior aspect of my vaginal wall. Anyway, I can live with that. The only problem that I am having is that when I remove it it POPS open and bangs into my urethra and that HURTS!! :eek: Do you girls have a technique for kinder removal? :confused:
Deenpac
You should not have the sensation of needing to have a BM while the diva is in place. Try repositioning (lower, higher?). Make sure it is open (feels round) once it is in place. For removal, squeeze it and inch your fingers up it so you're eventually squeezing the top and it won't bang on anything - hopefully.
Karen London
10-26-2005, 12:04 PM
I'd have to agree. I've used the keeper for 2 years and it's a lot easier to keep track of your flow because rather than being absorbed in to a pad etc, everything is collected so , should you really want to - !! you could actually measure the amount.
I was reading on one website about a woman who collects hers and uses it to fertilise her garden plants! Not sure thats for me though.:eek:
Hi MightyMitre
I'm also in England and wondering where you get your "keeper"? Is it sold in Superdrug or Boots or do you get yours by mail order?
I have an Irulan-type flow and if it's good enuf for Irulan it's good enuf for me....
thanks to all for wonderful feedback, this is definitely the 'best' biking board with very supportive ladies :)
Yasmin
11-07-2005, 04:00 PM
Where else could I ask this?
Ok, over the weekend I had my period. I tried stuffing the string "up there" as much as possible, but after back-to-back rides (and I'm only talking 10-milers), I was sore and kind of swollen. I think it was from irritation from the string. Any suggestions? I've noticed that where the string is positioned makes ALL the difference. As you mostly lean forward during a ride, place the string backwards or tuck it where the tampon goes.
Good luck.
Yasmin
11-07-2005, 04:14 PM
I've noticed that where the string is positioned makes ALL the difference. As you mostly lean forward during a ride, place the string backwards or tuck it where the tampon goes.
Good luck.I've just read some of the other threads. I didn't know that Divacups/ keepers existed.Anyone out there know if you can get them in Australia??? Do they sit similar to a diaphram? You've got me really interested & intrigued. Cheers, Yasmin.
Yasmin
11-07-2005, 04:18 PM
Dear hubby/husband.Sorry....I thought it stood for "D...head". I've been exposed to Australian humour too long.
Yasmin
11-07-2005, 04:29 PM
It's unlikely you'll find them in local shops, everyone I know has bought theirs online.
The Instead cups are not a durable device meant to last, I know some women who can reuse it several times but they rarely last more than a full period if they get that far. The Diva/Moon/Keeper cups will easily last several years, they are warranted for 10 but I can imagine with care and not doing things like leaving it in a car on a hot day it would probably last indefinately.
Also, the Instead's don't hold as much capacity, and some people experience discomfort with them because of the way they ride right against the cervix (as opposed to the other menstrual cups which ride lower in the canal and do not touch the cervix). One of the big advertising points of the Instead is being able to engage in intercourse without, erm, offending Mr. P, which I disagree with on so many levels.** Not to mention, Instead is an expensive disposable product which is not biodegradable since it is made of plastic.
**This kind of advertising just sends the message that menstrual flow is "dirty" and must be hidden from our sexual partners. My opinion is that if he can't handle a little construction dust then he should either stay off the worksite or wear a hardhat. :p I agree. If we handle what comes from their (male) bodies, then they should be "grown-up" enough to handle what comes from ours. After all, it is the nutritional source for potential embryos.Can't believe that the executives at "Instead" actually print that. Sounds like someone on the executive committee has a problem with it.
zoom-zoom
07-15-2010, 03:29 PM
OK, I haven't read the entire thread, but I, too, have had the tampon string irritation issue. It's really annoying.
So since my first century ride is in 2 days I picked up a box of Instead Softcups. They're a little uncomfortable to insert and remove (because the ring is such relatively hard and stiff plastic), but seem to work really well and I don't feel it at all once it's in.
But they aren't cheap and I hate how wasteful they are, so I think I will be looking at a washable menstrual cup in the near future. I also have VERY short cycles (22-23 days) lasting 10 days, so I'm sick and tired of buying box after box of "plugs" (cannot wait for menopause...because of this and endometriosis symptoms since puberty that were officially diagnosed when I was 30).
My question...I have a very tilted uterus and weirdly angled and pretty sensitive/delicate cervix--it always bleeds and feels tender after I have my yearly pap.
Is there a particular menstrual cup that would likely work best for me?
OakLeaf
07-15-2010, 07:10 PM
I'd say you're better with a Diva Cup (silicone) than a Keeper (harder natural latex). Those are the only two I tried. The Keeper worked better for me, but then the dog ate it and I couldn't find a new one locally. :eek:
zoom-zoom
07-15-2010, 07:33 PM
That would be my guess, too.
Catrin
07-16-2010, 05:22 AM
I'd say you're better with a Diva Cup (silicone) than a Keeper (harder natural latex). Those are the only two I tried. The Keeper worked better for me, but then the dog ate it and I couldn't find a new one locally. :eek:
The dog ATE it? Of course he didn't know what it was and they will eat anything...
I am so glad I had that surgery two years ago and don't have to worry about this any longer :D
channlluv
07-16-2010, 05:58 AM
Kirsten, I have a tilted uterus, too, and I've used the Diva cup with success. The only time I've ever had it fail on me was after a swim workout one day, I went to lie down on the bench in the steam sauna and the shift to a horizontal position on my back made it spill or something...whatever, I felt the gush and sure enough, it had emptied. Luckily, I was on a dark towel.
The only other problem I've had with it is the little knobby thing at the bottom that serves as a handle. It pokes me uncomfortably and I've read on this forum that some women clip it off, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to get the thing out if I did that. Opinions, ladies? Do those of you who have clipped off the little knobby handle thing have trouble inserting or removing the Diva Cup?
Roxy
zoom-zoom
07-16-2010, 06:00 AM
I am so glad I had that surgery two years ago and don't have to worry about this any longer :D
Some days I am THISCLOSE to going and having everything taken out. But they'd have to take my ovaries out to control my endo...and at 37 I am too young to be thrown suddenly into menopause...and HRT scares me. Plus I sometimes feel like my uterus is all that is holding my bladder in place. :p
zoom-zoom
07-16-2010, 06:01 AM
Kirsten, I have a tilted uterus, too, and I've used the Diva cup with success. The only time I've ever had it fail on me was after a swim workout one day, I went to lie down on the bench in the steam sauna and the shift to a horizontal position on my back made it spill or something...whatever, I felt the gush and sure enough, it had emptied. Luckily, I was on a dark towel.
The only other problem I've had with it is the little knobby thing at the bottom that serves as a handle. It pokes me uncomfortably and I've read on this forum that some women clip it off, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to get the thing out if I did that. Opinions, ladies? Do those of you who have clipped off the little knobby handle thing have trouble inserting or removing the Diva Cup?
Roxy
Good to hear that you like it. I, too, have read of women cutting the stem--for the same reason. But I'd also be concerned that it would be tough to remove.
OakLeaf
07-16-2010, 06:18 AM
The only other problem I've had with it is the little knobby thing at the bottom that serves as a handle. It pokes me uncomfortably and I've read on this forum that some women clip it off, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to get the thing out if I did that. Opinions, ladies? Do those of you who have clipped off the little knobby handle thing have trouble inserting or removing the Diva Cup?
Roxy
I cut most of it off and left maybe 1/4". It was no problem. Don't know how it would've been with less, though.
OakLeaf
07-16-2010, 06:25 AM
I agree. If we handle what comes from their (male) bodies, then they should be "grown-up" enough to handle what comes from ours. After all, it is the nutritional source for potential embryos.Can't believe that the executives at "Instead" actually print that. Sounds like someone on the executive committee has a problem with it.
Well, there's no comfortable way someone could put a penis in a vagina when there's already a Diva Cup or Keeper in there. Plus it would dislodge the cup and be messier than if you weren't using anything.
Honestly, the older I got, the less I wanted to clean blood off sheets or towels, or get up immediately after sex to clean up and put my menstrual product back in/on. It wasn't the man's choice at all.
On light days I often used my cervical cap. Smaller and more comfortable than the larger cups, compatible with vaginal intercourse, and reusable. (Plus, hormone free, long-lasting effective birth control.)
This is all behind me now, but it hasn't been so long ago that I don't remember. :cool:
badger
07-16-2010, 04:14 PM
since I'd never had one before, my first Diva Cup was uncomfortable. I cut all the nubby thing off, and I never had a problem getting it out - you just have to bear down a bit and quite a bit of it comes out so you just pull on it.
The second cup I got is much better (I cut off most of the nub on it, too). Not sure why, but I often had leak problems with the first one, and never with the second. I guess my first was a dud, but I used it for over 5 years.
trista
07-16-2010, 04:35 PM
I used the Diva for quite awhile. I did cut the end off completely. It's not hard to get out. You just stick your finger in there to break the suction and bear down to shove it out.
I got the Mirena IUD about 18 months ago and haven't had a period in about a year :D
zoom-zoom
07-16-2010, 04:42 PM
I got the Mirena IUD about 18 months ago and haven't had a period in about a year :D
I've wanted to try this, but our IC won't cover this under any circumstances, so I'm afraid I'd hate it and be out $500. I don't generally do well with hormonal stuff, anyhow. Even the Nuvaring gave me unpleasant side-effects (primarily ZERO libido).
trista
07-16-2010, 05:12 PM
I've wanted to try this, but our IC won't cover this under any circumstances, so I'm afraid I'd hate it and be out $500. I don't generally do well with hormonal stuff, anyhow. Even the Nuvaring gave me unpleasant side-effects (primarily ZERO libido).
The reason I chose Mirena over Nuvaring is because (from what I understand) Nuvaring's hormones enter the bloodstream; Mirena's [usually] stay localized to the uterus.
JennK13
07-16-2010, 05:43 PM
Well, I went and got some of those soft cups, and they don't seem to be working for me. I don't have any issue getting them in - and after some effort, I can get it out. But it isn't "sealing" in me, and leaks. I read that the Diva comes in sizes, so perhaps I need to try that. Soft cups say that the most common reason for failure of them is that they could be too big for you, so I'm willing to give the Diva a try even though it's kind of expensive. I did shorten the string on the tampon as suggested, and that worked well - no issues once I did that!! Great suggestion.
On that note, if anyone is using Soft cups, and wants a box (I only used a few), if you're in the Denver Metro area I can give them to you. Just PM me :)
katherine
07-16-2010, 08:12 PM
I've wanted to try this, but our IC won't cover this under any circumstances, so I'm afraid I'd hate it and be out $500. I don't generally do well with hormonal stuff, anyhow. Even the Nuvaring gave me unpleasant side-effects (primarily ZERO libido).
I had trouble with every hormonal birth control I tried until Mirena, so far (3 years) it's worked for me, and I tried every pill, and Nuvaring. I get the occasional short light period. But the best part is not having to worry about birth control for five freakin years. It may be worth a shot, my ob/gyn said everyone in her office had one!:D
Melissa71
08-16-2010, 05:09 AM
Jenn,
I tried those cups, and they didn't work for me either. I have a tipped uterus, and think that might be why. I also tried a Diva cup, but it's really stiff, and I removed the stem. I had much better luck with a Lady cup, it's soooo much easier to use. It's softer, and easier to get the fold right. I bought it from ebay. There is a bit of a learning curve, but now I'd never go back to just tampons. There's a whole informative thread on menstrual cups at live journal. I hope this isn't TMI. :D
http://menstrualcups.org/
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