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Catrin
06-01-2011, 03:51 AM
I've always enjoyed riding my country roads, but after the dog bite I find it is a little more difficult to get started.... I still go, and have had several good rides since the attack, but it makes me a little nervous until I get going. Once I get started I am fine.

I am sure this is quite normal & to be expected, but for now it makes it a little more difficult to just head out and explore. I REALLY LIKE to do that, so I need to get over it. Now :cool:

OakLeaf
06-01-2011, 04:26 AM
I do best in those situations if I push myself a little, only to where I'm slightly uncomfortable, and try to frame the incident as a learning experience in my head. If I'm terrified (I sure hope you aren't, but if you are), I don't think it's useful to try to push through it - it only creates more reluctance to go out the next time. If I'm gentle with my discomfort, explore it, poke at it a little, my head will heal.

It's been little by little getting my head back from my crash. I'm still wary about whose wheel I will take, and even if it's someone I've ridden with a lot and know to be highly skilled, I leave more space than I used to. On TOSRV, everyone I knew rode Saturday only - so on the way back, people I didn't know got one chance to kill me, and that was it. I dropped off a whole lot of pacelines that day ... :rolleyes:

Catrin
06-01-2011, 04:55 AM
That makes sense. It isn't terror, nothing like that. There is a little aversion to riding in new areas I've not ridden before because of the possibility of more war dogs...but I think that will pass as I push myself a bit.

I also recognize that it was a very specific set of circumstances that presented the opportunity for the dog to gnaw on my calf while I was riding. I was on my mountain bike for the first time, riding on gravel for the first time, my speed was quite slow, etc. The odds of that specific set of circumstances happening again are quite slim, so I am really not worried about a repeat. If I DO find myself on another narrow gravel road and see something similar then I will simply stop until they are past me.

I also think that it will help as I pass more dogs on my bike that do not try to eat me :cool: Obviously not all dogs are that aggressive. Right now I give all dogs the widest margin that I can - even the little tiny things that couldn't even reach my ankles on the bike :rolleyes:

I would love to hit the roads in southern Indiana for some hill training, but I think I will give it a few weeks and see if I can find someone willing to ride with me the first time - I am slow so I don't usually seek a riding partner - but I thank that will help me to get over the dog fear. Club rides don't really count in this department as I still wind up riding solo :)

Biciclista
06-01-2011, 09:07 AM
sounds like you need someone to ride with a bit while you are getting over your jitters?
what makes it worse is you know that dog is probably still loose.

owlice
06-01-2011, 10:21 AM
Catrin, I hope you put foremost in your mind that you won, not the dog! He was hoping to have you for lunch; you didn't give him the opportunity!

Roar, woman, roar!! :)

(I'm partly serious there; roaring might really help you get past the jitters! Might get you to giggling, too, and that's always a good thing!)

Catrin
06-01-2011, 10:23 AM
sounds like you need someone to ride with a bit while you are getting over your jitters?
what makes it worse is you know that dog is probably still loose.

Yeah, that would probably be good for a bit. The "good" thing is the route I was on is not one I would ever ride with my Gunnar, so I was away from my usual roads. Not by much, but hopefully enough :o

I will say that my hot and windy 30+ ride Sunday was fine, and while I did see a few dogs none of them were loose :)

Catrin
06-01-2011, 10:32 AM
Catrin, I hope you put foremost in your mind that you won, not the dog! He was hoping to have you for lunch; you didn't give him the opportunity!

Roar, woman, roar!! :)

(I'm partly serious there; roaring might really help you get past the jitters! Might get you to giggling, too, and that's always a good thing!)

Yes, I try to keep this in mind - I did indeed WIN and got away from the dog even without beautiful purple chain-mail leggings ;) This nervousness will pass in time as I get more rides in without repeats, and I think talking about it here helps. If I were to talk to my non-cycling peeps about it I KNOW what they would say and giving up cycling simply is not going to happen :cool:

I like the roaring idea :)

tangentgirl
06-01-2011, 10:33 AM
Maybe you could get your own toy dog, like a small plastic dog or stuffed dog that you can tie to your handlebar for a bit. It will protect you from the bad dogs. :) Just a small trick to help you psyche yourself into the right mindset.

owlice
06-01-2011, 11:00 AM
Or a little toy dog owner that you can run over several times before you head out....

(Okay, that was mean, but I wouldn't weep any if the owner of the dog that bit you had a little tire tread or eight showin' on his backside....!)

:D

Miranda
06-01-2011, 02:12 PM
I have not been the same either since my dog related crash. Besides the everyday pain to a varying degree and permanent damage done to my body, I can't 100% shake that re-crash aniexty.

Part of my brain never goes off alert during the ride. It's stressful. Logically I try to tell myself just keep riding. But having to be "on the look out" constantly for the next dog that might take me down unexpectly is exhausting.

The only time I take a breather and mentally relax a little is on wide open field stretches. Where I can see everything both sides of the road in view.

My crash happened on my favorite thing in the word to ride. Wooded rolling hills. Except for that one clearing at the crest with the farm dog in full sprint before I ever saw him.

I'm not sure what the answer is. Every rider I know who has crashed seems to never forget it totally. All have said to me you just need to keep riding. Easier said than done. Keep us updated.

sundial
06-01-2011, 03:16 PM
My leg served as a chicken nugget for a dog on one of my rides. I wasn't going to let it stop me and I still continue to ride where the dog is and haven't had any more problems since. If you give off the vibes that you are afraid, the dog will pick up on it and react accordingly. I have found that a good squirt of water in the dog's face, slowing the bike, or getting between the bike and the dog while standing your ground helps ward off curious fear biters. It worked for me when a concerned mama pit bull came out to greet me. :)

Perhaps until you feel really confident about riding alone where doggies could be hiding, a riding partner will help alleviate some of your frustrations and concerns. If you want to arm yourself with some protection, get some bear spray.

Something else that I carry is a Find Me Spot (http://www.findmespot.com/en/) that will alert 911 authorities if I need help fast. I can also program it to text to my hubby every 10 minutes that I am ok and includes the GPS coordinates should I summon his help.

Catrin
06-01-2011, 05:05 PM
Everyone that is good advice, thank you! I think that I was just a little down this morning...and the more often I ride by dogs that don't try to eat me the more confident I will become. I am not going to allow this to take away my joy in riding :cool:

I do know someone who might be able to ride with me a time or two, but I think I need to not allow this to change my normal practice. Hey, if I can keep riding with a dog gnawing at me, then I can work through this little bout of nerves - and it only seems to affect me BEFORE I ride, once I am going and the wind is in my face then I am fine. I do find myself scanning specifically for dogs, and when I see an owner walking their dog I try to determine if there is a leash involved...

Miranda and Sundial, thank you for telling me a little of your experience - Oakleaf that is a good reminder that taking it little by little is best. Owlice I love your idea of riding over the dog owner a time or two with my bike...oooops...you said a TOY dog owner - my bad :D Not that I would ever do such a thing but after seeing a hint of the final bill yesterday from the ER...

Thanks everyone!

WindingRoad
06-01-2011, 08:00 PM
We should go ride together soon. I think this whole experience will take some time to deal with so be patient with yourself. This is a form of post traumatic stress afterall.

Roadtrip
06-01-2011, 08:08 PM
If I were a little closer I'd gladly be your wingman on your scary roads. We still need to figure out logistics on meeting part way. Looking forward to seeing your battle scars :)

Shannon

owlice
06-01-2011, 09:04 PM
Catrin, I don't remember now, but did you report the dog? The owners should be covering your expenses for this; their homeowner's insurance will likely cover it.

You might want to consider that as you continue to ride, you get leaner, so are less tasty -- no fat for flavor! :D

Catrin
06-02-2011, 03:52 AM
WindingRoad I think that would be great :) Tonight I am going to drive my bike up to a good place on my country roads and get in 25 miles or so. They have all of the roads in my apartment complex torn up for resurfacing and I am just not going to risk my bike tires on all of that. I do not get off work until 6 so I can't go on the shop ride.

Road Trip - we still need to meet at Yellow Springs and explore that trail to our hearts content :cool:

Owlice - I did make a police report, the problem is I was unable to give them enough information to find the owner. I was so focused on getting away from the dog that I didn't stop until I got back to my car and then drove to the police station. I figured if the dog was using me as a chew toy while I was actually riding that it probably wouldn't stop if I stopped the bike...

sundial
06-02-2011, 12:42 PM
Tonight I am going to drive my bike up to a good place on my country roads and get in 25 miles or so...

I think that's a wise decision to park and ride. :) That will give you a chance to experience another part of the road that will be critter free. I think more cyclists should adopt this strategy to avoid encounters on questionable roads.

limewave
06-02-2011, 12:49 PM
DH makes fun of me, but I often wear an emergency whistle, actually, ALWAYS wear an emergency whistle when I mountain bike or ride dirt roads. I just keep it clipped to my camelbak where its easy to get too. It's clipped on the chest strap so I can use it easily.

sundial
06-02-2011, 12:56 PM
DH makes fun of me, but I often wear an emergency whistle, actually, ALWAYS wear an emergency whistle when I mountain bike or ride dirt roads.

Me too! I have one of those really loud storm whistles attached to my CamelBak along with a folding knife and my Spot gizmo. And I recently ditched the mini compass/temp thingy. My CamelBak is starting to resemble a flyfishing vest. :o

Catrin
06-02-2011, 01:33 PM
Me too! I have one of those really loud storm whistles attached to my CamelBak along with a folding knife and my Spot gizmo. And I recently ditched the mini compass/temp thingy. My CamelBak is starting to resemble a flyfishing vest. :o

hmmmm, do you think that would hurt doggie ears? Have been considering a small air horn as I've had several dog owners strongly recommend this approach. The problem with Mace is the direction the wind is blowing...

sundial
06-02-2011, 01:36 PM
hmmmm, do you think that would hurt doggie ears?

It's pretty shrill. Let me see what Kali thinks. Hold on.

sundial
06-02-2011, 01:39 PM
Kali walked up to the whistle as I was blowing it while Niki cocked her head to one side and Logan ran out of the room. So there ya go. ;)

Catrin
06-02-2011, 01:43 PM
Kali walked up to the whistle as I was blowing it while Niki cocked her head to one side and Logan ran out of the room. So there ya go. ;)

Darn, guess it doesn't hit the right pitch. Thanks for the experiment though!

sundial
06-02-2011, 02:05 PM
Those pocket size air horns will make them scatter. :eek: Our local O'Reilly auto parts store carries it.

Catrin
06-02-2011, 02:07 PM
Those pocket size air horns will make them scatter. :eek: Our local O'Reilly auto parts store carries it.

I will check it out! If it would fit in a Bento box and allow room for a few nibbles that would be good - I figure I could get it out of the Bento box more quickly.

luv2climb
06-02-2011, 11:22 PM
I had a dog incident last month while on a climb. Luckily I had my video camera recording, so maybe this footage will help others.

I was almost to the top of the climb when I heard barking dogs. I saw three dogs behind a tall wrought-iron fence. On past rides I discovered that making puppy sounds at barking dogs seemed to calm them and sometimes stopped the barking. Unfortunately, this time it backfired:( The dogs started going crazy and one of them escaped and chased me. I heard the owner yell something so I yelled "Get your dog away from me!", "Hey!", and finally "GO HOME!", all while keeping an eye on the dog so I could jump off my bike and use it as a shield if necessary. Luckily the "GO HOME!" command worked. Either that or I left the dog's territory.

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqmrRUcJ0

emily_in_nc
06-03-2011, 07:28 PM
Wow, great video, and scary to have that dog running after you! :eek:

Love the dog at the end getting all submissive when you made your puppy sound...I had no idea they would do that!

luv2climb
06-03-2011, 11:12 PM
Wow, great video, and scary to have that dog running after you! :eek:

Love the dog at the end getting all submissive when you made your puppy sound...I had no idea they would do that!
Thank you. :) Yeah, it sounded pretty scary too with that mean bark.

Most dogs love that puppy sound and beg to be petted, just like that yellow lab did. I've also heard that yellow labs like the one at the end of the video are very affectionate. Most of the ones I've petted are.

I wish I knew why the puppy sound made those barking dogs go crazy.